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Bugsy is in surgery - Vibes please...

post #1 of 50
1/18/10 at 10:27am
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My heart is on my throat... I left my baby at the dentist today for his dental and possible surgery (if needed)... He will be back at 3:30 - 4pm...
I am so worried about my baby... please please send me all the vibes you can possibly send his way .
After today he will be put on medicine for life - once a day/ proprietary blend/cocktail, (already available pharmaceutical meds). I trust them - people come from all over the US to get their cats treated with them.
As far as the dental, they use Isoflurane and gas for anesthesia, and also pre-IV for fluids and full vital monitoring... They also do a pre-op blood test; so as far as safety, I feel I got all basis covered...

I just feel like I betrayed his trust by taking him there first thing in the morning and putting him through so much pain... My baby boy...
Please please send him vibes...
Today is also his Gotcha day
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post #2 of 50
1/18/10 at 10:30am
Happy Gotcha Day Bugsy! And HAPPY SOON TO BE FREE OF MOUTH PAIN DAY!!

I'll be thinking of you and Bugsy. It's awful leaving them isn't it? But when it's all over, he will be like a new cat. Whoohoo!!

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post #3 of 50
1/18/10 at 10:51am
Good Luck.
I hope he will be ok.
I feel the same way with Wrinkles.
We dropped her off at 8 amd she was scared and shivering.
I also have the vet a list of what not to use.
Sphynx have bad reactions to meds.
I have a headache already.
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post #4 of 50
1/18/10 at 10:56am
Mega vibes for an uneventful dental and a full recovery for Bugsy!! And Happy Gotcha Day!!!

And more vibes for Wrinkles!!
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post #5 of 50
1/18/10 at 11:06am
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Originally Posted by carolinalima View Post
My heart is on my throat... I left my baby at the dentist today for his dental and possible surgery (if needed)... He will be back at 3:30 - 4pm...
I am so worried about my baby... please please send me all the vibes you can possibly send his way .
After today he will be put on medicine for life - once a day/ proprietary blend/cocktail, (already available pharmaceutical meds). I trust them - people come from all over the US to get their cats treated with them.
As far as the dental, they use Isoflurane and gas for anesthesia, and also pre-IV for fluids and full vital monitoring... They also do a pre-op blood test; so as far as safety, I feel I got all basis covered...

I just feel like I betrayed his trust by taking him there first thing in the morning and putting him through so much pain... My baby boy...
Please please send him vibes...
Today is also his Gotcha day
Here are some heartfelt vibes from all of us: Everything is going to be fine, Bugsy!
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post #6 of 50
1/18/10 at 11:09am
Happy Gotcha day Bugsy! what a great present to be free of mouth pain. Tons of Mega vibes all goes well with his procedure :vi bes:

Hang in there Carolina, your baby will be back at home safe and happy with you in no time
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post #7 of 50
1/18/10 at 11:16am
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Originally Posted by otto View Post
Happy Gotcha Day Bugsy! And HAPPY SOON TO BE FREE OF MOUTH PAIN DAY!!

I'll be thinking of you and Bugsy. It's awful leaving them isn't it? But when it's all over, he will be like a new cat. Whoohoo!!
Oh my God... SOOOOOO hard.... I barely could sleep last night... And now I can barely think straight... I just keep thinking that he will be so much happier when he is better - like he will be able to eat wet food and not be bothered by it (it gets stuck in his gums, and he doesn't like it )... Things like this... Just to KNOW that he is not in pain... His gums would bleed sometimes... He was in pain... Now he will not be anymore

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Originally Posted by mews2much View Post
Good Luck.
I hope he will be ok.
I feel the same way with Wrinkles.
We dropped her off at 8 amd she was scared and shivering.
I also have the vet a list of what not to use.
Sphynx have bad reactions to meds.
I have a headache already.
for your baby girl... please keep us posted...

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Originally Posted by DarkMavis View Post
Mega vibes for an uneventful dental and a full recovery for Bugsy!! And Happy Gotcha Day!!!

And more vibes for Wrinkles!!
Thanks
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post #8 of 50
1/18/10 at 11:17am
for Bugsy, and Happy Gotcha Day to him.
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post #9 of 50
1/18/10 at 11:20am
Socks and I wish Bugsy the best!
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post #10 of 50
1/18/10 at 11:57am
Thanks Carolinia and Dark Mavis.
I hope Bugsy is ok.
Has the vet called you?
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post #11 of 50
1/18/10 at 12:03pm
Happy Gotcha day Bugsy and vibes for the surgery, I'm sure all will go fine. xx
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post #12 of 50
1/18/10 at 12:11pm
for you and for Bugsy. I think you could also use a and a
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post #13 of 50
1/18/10 at 12:26pm
Happy Gotcha day Bugsy, I hope the surgery goes well
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post #14 of 50
1/18/10 at 12:31pm
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Originally Posted by mews2much View Post
Thanks Carolinia and Dark Mavis.
I hope Bugsy is ok.
Has the vet called you?
I called them at 1:05, and they were running late... poor Bugsy... must be sooooooo hungry! They said they will call me as soon they put him under to tell me he is stable under the anesthesia...
I am soo freaking out right now... My back is on big lump!
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post #15 of 50
1/18/10 at 12:38pm
That is terrible you ahve to wait so long.
Let me know as soon as you hear anything.
At least we are both smart enough to tell the vet what meds not to use.
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post #16 of 50
1/18/10 at 12:48pm
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Originally Posted by mews2much View Post
That is terrible you ahve to wait so long.
Let me know as soon as you hear anything.
At least we are both smart enough to tell the vet what meds not to use.
I know.... I just called them again... He is still waiting... The only thing I worry about is that he hasn't eaten since last night at 10pm. The vet just assured me that he is ok, and that he will be ok - he will be on an IV the whole time, and for me to not worry... HOW can I not worry??
I guess is the hurry up and wait kind of deal
You know, but they are the best place in Dallas... and if that is what I need to put up with it... I will...
They were able to fit me in super quickly, and arecharging me 1/2 price after all...
PLUS: If he needs extractions, no matter how many, they will not charge me, as she promised...
So.... I need to be a goo girl and wait... ohmmmmmmm ohmmmmmm
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post #17 of 50
1/18/10 at 1:11pm
for you and Bugsy. It takes everything I have not to cry when ever I've had to leave Cotton for his dentals. Lots of good for Biugsy that everything will go smoothly and he'll be home soon.
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post #18 of 50
1/18/10 at 1:33pm
Bugsy
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post #19 of 50
1/18/10 at 1:45pm
That is nice of them.
What time are they open to tonight?
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post #20 of 50
1/18/10 at 1:55pm
for wellness and recovery!
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post #21 of 50
1/18/10 at 1:57pm
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Usually 5:30, 6... But longer if needed... I asked how long the procedure itself should take, they said 1 hour to 1 hour and 15 minutes, depending on what needs to be done... Then waking up from anesthesia... which she said cats come out really quickly. I guess they do need to monitor him for a bit though - don't know?
It is already 4pm here.... I just hope he goes in today, and all is fine
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post #22 of 50
1/18/10 at 2:02pm
When Meeko and Sasha had surgery in Jan/Feb 2009 they were not wobbly at all when I got them.
There eyes were dialted though.
My vet likes to use anesthesia that they wake up faster from.
I m guessing Wrnkles will be the same way.
My vet said she was swamped with surgerys today.
I hope Bugsy will be one today.
Will he have to stay overnight if he is doe to late?
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post #23 of 50
1/18/10 at 2:49pm
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Oh my goodness - I am freaking out...
My vet called... Bugsy is fine... BUT - it was not Gingivitis, it was a VERY BAD case of Stomatitis.
Stomatitis is measured on a scale of 1 to 3, and his was 2.8
His mouth is so inflamed that no extractions ca be performed today, as healing will be way to painful for him to bear.
I am shaking... I had no Idea!!! I can barely move right now...
They said the plan is to do the dental today, treat him for a good 6 months, and only then take him back for the extractions - that is how bad his mouth is ...
Oh my god........ My poor baby..... How can I not have seen this?
He is being worked on, and will be ready to be picked up in about 1/2 hour...
I feel so bad! I didn't see this, neither did his vet... I thought it was just on the outside, and around his gums... I feel like there is a knife being twisted right inside my heart...
My poor baby...
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post #24 of 50
1/18/10 at 2:58pm
Do not blame yourself it is not your fault.
I hope he feels better.
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post #25 of 50
1/18/10 at 3:07pm
its not your fault hun

but at least you know what it is so you can help Bugsy the correct way he feels better soon
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post #26 of 50
1/18/10 at 3:47pm
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Originally Posted by carolinalima View Post
Oh my goodness - I am freaking out...
My vet called... Bugsy is fine... BUT - it was not Gingivitis, it was a VERY BAD case of Stomatitis.
Stomatitis is measured on a scale of 1 to 3, and his was 2.8
His mouth is so inflamed that no extractions ca be performed today, as healing will be way to painful for him to bear.
I am shaking... I had no Idea!!! I can barely move right now...
They said the plan is to do the dental today, treat him for a good 6 months, and only then take him back for the extractions - that is how bad his mouth is ...
Oh my god........ My poor baby..... How can I not have seen this?
He is being worked on, and will be ready to be picked up in about 1/2 hour...
I feel so bad! I didn't see this, neither did his vet... I thought it was just on the outside, and around his gums... I feel like there is a knife being twisted right inside my heart...
My poor baby...
Wait.....I thought you had already told us it was stomatitis? Wasn't that you, talking about Dr Wiggs, and his medicine (or is it a supplement) he has created??

Please, try not to blame yourself for not knowing. Cats are the absolute Masters at hiding pain. You got Bugsy in for the dental as quickly as you could, and now you know what you are dealing with, and will do everything that needs to be done.

You and he will both be glad to get him home tonight, no looking back, and let us know how he's doing, okay?
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post #27 of 50
1/18/10 at 3:49pm
You didn't see it because cats are great at hiding pain, and they don't easily let us look in their mouths.

Nothing you did, and heaven knows if you had tried to pry his mouth open to look at it, it would have only made him unhappy at you.
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post #28 of 50
1/18/10 at 3:53pm
I'm sorry. I didn't know Bugsy was having trouble. I hope he heals quickly
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post #29 of 50
1/18/10 at 5:21pm
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Originally Posted by otto View Post
Wait.....I thought you had already told us it was stomatitis? Wasn't that you, talking about Dr Wiggs, and his medicine (or is it a supplement) he has created??

Please, try not to blame yourself for not knowing. Cats are the absolute Masters at hiding pain. You got Bugsy in for the dental as quickly as you could, and now you know what you are dealing with, and will do everything that needs to be done.

You and he will both be glad to get him home tonight, no looking back, and let us know how he's doing, okay?
Hi Otto, I thought it was Immune Mediated Gingivitis... What he has is actually quite worst - Lymphocytic Plasmacytic Stomatits. It affects his whole mouth and throat...
Not only that, but he also had several root exposures, Resorptive lesions, and Periodontal Disease Stage 4.
He will need multiple dental extractions once his gingival tissues heals.
He was given local shots of an antibiotic (Perimino TAA) and depo-medrol, as well as had a dental cleaning, polishing, and desensitization, as well as Ora5 Chemical periodontal disease treatment. His meds contains antibiotics.

He will need to go back in 30 days, then in 3 months - depending on how he is, plans will be made to extract his teeth.
As far as the anesthesia, he did great, and came right back up when it was over... They didn't give him too much though, as they noticed right away his gums were way too inflamed to deal with surgery.
He is up right now, and there has been no hissing here...
He didn't want to eat wet food - went straight to his dry food... go figure ... Thank goodness his dry food is super soft and it melts away very easily!
I will keep you all posted - I think this will be interesting, since it is such a new treatment!
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post #30 of 50
1/18/10 at 5:51pm
That poor cat.
I hope he feels better.
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