Rabies Vaccine

cdubbie · May 29, 2009

It is a law that your pet must receive the rabies vaccine where I live.
If I do not have it done, I run the risk that my cat will be seized and put down (to test for rabies) if she ever scratches or bites someone who wants to make an issue of it.

One year there was a huge rabies spread and panic in the county where I live. Hundreds of beloved pets were legally seized and destroyed (so that the brain could be tested for rabies) b/c the owners could not prove their pets were vaccinated and even a slight altercation sent people to the police demanding the animal be tested for rabies. I just won't risk it.

Willowy · May 31, 2009

Originally Posted by carolinalima

I don't get it.... So then how come the 1yr vaccine is safer than the 3yr? They are both injections... I think there is more to it than simply giving them an injection.

ONLY the non-adjuvanted 1-year vaccine is safer than the 3-year vaccine. The regular, adjuvanted "1-year" vaccine is EXACTLY the same as the "3-year" vaccine. Except for the label.

motoko9 · May 31, 2009

Originally Posted by Willowy

ONLY the non-adjuvanted 1-year vaccine is safer than the 3-year vaccine. The regular, adjuvanted "1-year" vaccine is EXACTLY the same as the "3-year" vaccine. Except for the label.

Yes, the theory is that the adjuvant vaccine carries a greater risk of cancer, although Sharky's comment about injections in general is interesting.

As for myself, I'm not crazy about vaccinations, but as others have stated, I'll choose that over the other risks. I know several people in my area who have had bats in their homes, and that's enough to persuade me.

Willowy · May 31, 2009

I just don't like it when people say "the 3-year vaccine is sooo dangerous, much more so than the 1-year vaccine" when they're just talking about the regular adjuvanted vaccine. IT'S THE SAME THING!!! Only Purevax is safer.

carolina · May 31, 2009

Originally Posted by Willowy

ONLY the non-adjuvanted 1-year vaccine is safer than the 3-year vaccine. The regular, adjuvanted "1-year" vaccine is EXACTLY the same as the "3-year" vaccine. Except for the label.

That's exactly my point - if it doesn't matter what you are injecting; and the act of injecting itself is what creates the risk of cancer, then what is the difference in the vaccines? (I am referring to Sharky's comment).
IMO, there is more to it than simply the act of injecting. Some vaccines are safer than others... I also have a hard time to believe that every injection is a risk for cancer... I have never heard this about insulin, subQ, antibiotics, etc...
I know that several members here at TCS prefer to give their antibiotics through injections than orally, as it is much less stressful for the kitties... How come that's not an issue, when you need to give these injections for 5-10 days at a time, and a vaccine is a huge issue given once a year?
I don't know, I just think there is more to it...

sharky · May 31, 2009

Originally Posted by carolinalima

That's exactly my point - if it doesn't matter what you are injecting; and the act of injecting itself is what creates the risk of cancer, then what is the difference in the vaccines? (I am referring to Sharky's comment).
IMO, there is more to it than simply the act of injecting. Some vaccines are safer than others... I also have a hard time to believe that every injection is a risk for cancer... I have never heard this about insulin, subQ, antibiotics, etc...
I know that several members here at TCS prefer to give their antibiotics through injections than orally, as it is much less stressful for the kitties... How come that's not an issue, when you need to give these injections for 5-10 days at a time, and a vaccine is a huge issue given once a year?
I don't know, I just think there is more to it...

It is something to think about ... My vet is unconvinced the purvex is safer and is wanting more trials ... IMHO I am following local law and my vet s recommendation

Willowy · May 31, 2009

Not all injection are equally dangerous. Some substances are more reactive than others. I'm sure every injection does cause some inflammation, but certain things cause MORE inflammation. And it's repeated inflammation that can cause cancer. I've heard that Drontal injections are particularly reactive, and the FeLV vaccine.

7_angel · Jun 2, 2009

Yes, only get the non-adjuvanted vaccine if you must get a rabies vaccine.

My cat, Seven, died from a rabies vaccine. She went into anaphylactic shock and the vet could not save her.

Since then, I have adopted two male cats that have had rough starts in life (like many cats from shelters, they had some health problems early on). Because of this and because of my horrific experience with the rabies vaccine, I have only vaccinated my boys once. They are done - no more despite what the law says. They are strictly indoor and I feel that they are not at risk.

sharky · Jun 2, 2009

FOR those who for HEALTH reasons are not vaccinating GET IT in WRITING from your VET.... This provides protection for you LEGALLY ... I had it done for my dog

mews2much · Jun 2, 2009

My Coco does not get any shots anymore because of her health problems.
She had her last shots at age 10 and now is 17.
Cleo got the Rabies shot when she was shipped here.

cococat · Jun 2, 2009

you might like this site
www.holisticvetlist.com

7_angel · Jun 3, 2009

Thanks cococat! I've been looking to find a holistic vet as any vet I have ever visited pressures me to get rabies vaccinations for my cats.

Another general comment: as I said in my previous post, my cats had some health problems when they were younger including URIs, tummy problems, etc. Their immune systems had been compromised at a young age - which I don't think is too uncommon with rescue kitties. Therefore, I feel it is best not to vaccinate them more than 1 initial vaccination and to keep them strictly indoors.

Despite talking to vets about my past experience with a 3 year old healthy cat dying from a rabies vaccine and expressing my concern with my two new cats (who are healthy now, but initially had some health issues) getting a rabies vaccine... I have still not found a vet that will excuse them from getting rabies vaccinations.

sharky · Jun 3, 2009

Originally Posted by 7_Angel

Thanks cococat! I've been looking to find a holistic vet as any vet I have ever visited pressures me to get rabies vaccinations for my cats.

Another general comment: as I said in my previous post, my cats had some health problems when they were younger including URIs, tummy problems, etc. Their immune systems had been compromised at a young age - which I don't think is too uncommon with rescue kitties. Therefore, I feel it is best not to vaccinate them more than 1 initial vaccination and to keep them strictly indoors.

Despite talking to vets about my past experience with a 3 year old healthy cat dying from a rabies vaccine and expressing my concern with my two new cats (who are healthy now, but initially had some health issues) getting a rabies vaccine... I have still not found a vet that will excuse them from getting rabies vaccinations.

I had three vets who wrote up a form for me but said animal was compromised by a illness that resulted in death ... 2 of three vets were conventional... The animal who is most compromised in my house now was NOT exempted but precautions taken when she was vaccinated, she has a disorder that little info is avail on but is NOT life threatening

mews2much · Jun 3, 2009

I guess I am lucky none of the vets I have one to have ever pushed Rabies Shots.
I do not live in a Rabies area though and my cats are indoor.
I already lost Lucy to a Leukemia shot in 2001.
Within 2 hours of gettin that shot she needed blood transfusions.
We did the shot once more and same thin happened then I lost her a few months later.
She kept needed transfusions after that.

tessa_s212 · Jun 5, 2009

Unless requried by law, cats (and dogs) do not need to be vaccinated yearly (or even every three years) for Rabies. The Rabies vaccine produces a much longer immunity than just a few years, sometimes for life.

It is not required by law in Ohio for a cat to have rabies vacc, so the indoor cats do not get them at all because contracting rabies is not a true, real concern due to years of over-vaccination, protocols pushed by vets, and mandatory laws. My dogs get them every three years only because it is required by law. Outdoor cats get them only if I have the extra money to spare when taking them to the low cost spay/neuter clinics.

Ideally, I would recommend getting the vaccine (just make sure the vet and techs administer it on the leg, NOT the back of the neck). One vaccine as a kitten should be sufficient to help calm concerns, but not to harm your cat.

misskalamata · Jun 5, 2009

Originally Posted by tessa_s212

It is not required by law in Ohio for a cat to have rabies vacc

How do you know this? I live in Ohio, and my vet insisted that my indoor cats get a rabies shot (the 1-year). She made it sound like it was required by law.

sharky · Jun 5, 2009

I CANNOT vouch for this charts accuracy but it is 3 yrs old and has a easy to read chart format

http://vaccines.dogsadversereactions...RabiesLaws.pdf

mews2much · Jun 5, 2009

There is no Rabies law here for cats which I knew.
All my vets say only get the shot if they go outside.
I am not in a Rabies area either.

ut0pia · Jun 6, 2009

Originally Posted by tessa_s212

Ideally, I would recommend getting the vaccine (just make sure the vet and techs administer it on the leg, NOT the back of the neck). One vaccine as a kitten should be sufficient to help calm concerns, but not to harm your cat.

Jake got his on his leg but I'm curious, what's the difference?

sharky · Jun 6, 2009

Originally Posted by ut0pia

Jake got his on his leg but I'm curious, what's the difference?

A sarcoma ( ie cancerous tumor on the leg ) on the leg can be dealt with by amputating the leg , you obviously cannot amputate the head or neck area

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