Is This a Hoax? Is There Such Thing as a Bengalmese?

missymotus · Apr 2, 2009

Originally Posted by GoldyCat

Have you read her contract???

I certainly wouldn't sign a contract like that even if I were getting a show quality purebred cat with papers.

Actually her contact is pretty standard with ped cats, I did find it somewhat amusing that all kittens must be neutered and not bred from when she started out mixing breeds.

GoldyCat · Apr 2, 2009

Originally Posted by NorthernGlow

Did anyone else notice the huge amount of typos on that site? It's like someone was very drunk while making it..

And this:

Why am I having hard time believing that..

Yeah, she doesn't even spell her made-up name the same every time: bengalmese/bangelmese.

StefanZ · Apr 2, 2009

Typos yes. Now, it isnt forbidden to have a dyslexia. Thus she is doing marvellously well managing this dyslexia of hers.

In first moment a though these bengalmese was typo for bengalnese = bengals which CAN be said in some situations.

But she is apparently making a mixture, and thus bengalmese isnt no typo..

About she is not allergic to her own cats, and especielly bengals, it may very well be thrue.

GoldyCat · Apr 2, 2009

Originally Posted by missymotus

Actually her contact is pretty standard with ped cats, I did find it somewhat amusing that all kittens must be neutered and not bred from when she started out mixing breeds.

I agree that it looks a lot like a standard contract, but there are some details that are just a bit "off" for me.
1) Besides the misspelled words and poor grammar, some of the statements are so convoluted I'd never be confident that I understood exactly what it was that I signed.
2) If you return a kitten you have to prove that it doesn't have ringworm--by doing a culture. Where are you supposed to swab for a culture if there are no lesions? It also looks like you have to give a dose of Revolution whether the kitten needs it or not.
3) Pay an extra $1000 if you do not prove that you had the kitten spayed or neutered, whether the cat has been bred or not. I've seen contracts which add a $1000 fee if you breed your cat, which I assume is what would have been charged for a breeding cat. Her $1000 fee sounds more like a fine.

Since I would never consider buying a cat from this breeder, it doesn't really matter how much I can pick apart her contract. I just wonder how many people really read the entire contract.

northernglow · Apr 2, 2009

Originally Posted by StefanZ

Typos yes. Now, it isnt forbidden to have a dyslexia. Thus she is doing marvellously well managing this dyslexia of hers.

About she is not allergic to her own cats, and especielly bengals, it may very well be thrue.

Of course it's not forbidden to have dyslexia, but I sure wouldn't write my own 'official' cattery sites if I had dyslexia, or at least I would ask someone to check it for me. IMO it doesn't give a good impression.. (=meaning the typos, not the dyslexia).

And about the allergy: I understood that she meant that this 'bengalmese' was the specific 'breed' that is hypoallergenic. She also mentioned the hair lenght which doesn't have anything to do with cat allergies.
My boyfriend is allergic to cats but doesn't have any reaction to my cats, that doesn't mean that British Short- and Longhairs are hypoallergenic and should be advertised as ones.

goldenkitty45 · Apr 3, 2009

Doesn't every computer have a "spell check" on it? Maybe the person doesn't know where its located on the computer screen?????

missymotus · Apr 3, 2009

Spell check wouldn't help with the made up breed name, Ocicat comes up as incorrect in my email and that is certainly spelt correctly.

goldenkitty45 · Apr 3, 2009

I meant for the other misspelled words

moonandstarkatz · Apr 3, 2009

Not to mention on the shipping and payment link, she says you have to pick up your kitten by 10 weeks to avoid additional boarding fees. This is an odd breeder indeed and who puts pics of themselves on their site.
Daisy

laureen227 · Apr 3, 2009

Originally Posted by GoldyCat

Oh, and one more thing. Her spelling and grammar are atrocious. This doesn't necessarily make her a bad breeder--it's just irritating.

i found it very irritating, as well.

it's one thing to make the more 'common' errors - misplaced apostrophes, etc. but spell check would catch the misspellings - & grammar check would catch the apostrophes.

plus, you can usually add words to your own personal dictionary in a word processing program. if i had difficulties w/spelling, grammar, etc. i would compose in a word processing program as a fail-safe. i do that now when i want caps in the correct places, as i have a tendency to not always put them in [due to years of typing on a keyboard w/o a shift capability - this is also why i rarely capitalize here].

wellingtoncats · Apr 4, 2009

Originally Posted by moonandstarkatz

Not to mention on the shipping and payment link, she says you have to pick up your kitten by 10 weeks to avoid additional boarding fees. This is an odd breeder indeed and who puts pics of themselves on their site.
Daisy

Me!

http://www.freewebs.com/captivatingpersians/

I'm the one pictured with NSWCFA's 2nd best Male of the year! (My breeding of course!

)

One of Europe's top Persian breeders has a photo of herself

http://www.sorrentinacattery.com/about_us.html

Another one of Europe's top Persian breeders again, Lisa

http://www.amorstroll.com/about.htm

I could go on and on but you get the picture!

goldenkitty45 · Apr 4, 2009

Many breeders do have pics of themselves somewhere on the website. Don't see a problem with it.

moonandstarkatz · Apr 4, 2009

Sorry I didn't explain well, pictures of breeders are usually either posed family pics or show pics or something with cats, these are headshots like on facebook that go along with the poor grammar.
Daisy

wandererkm · Apr 18, 2009

are these Bengalmese truly hypoallergenic as she claims. I spoke to her regarding her kittens in depth the other night and am looking to seriously buy a kitten however, I think 400 is steep for a mixed breed kitten that may or may not be hypoallergenic. Can someone please help me out and quick.
thanks

cjh27 · Apr 18, 2009

Originally Posted by wandererkm

are these Bengalmese truly hypoallergenic as she claims. I spoke to her regarding her kittens in depth the other night and am looking to seriously buy a kitten however, I think 400 is steep for a mixed breed kitten that may or may not be hypoallergenic. Can someone please help me out and quick.
thanks

Hi,

this is very hard to answer without knowing the cats but probably they are not hypoallergic, sorry.

Most people are allergic against the Fel D1 gene product, which is a protein found in the spit of a cat which is then spread over the fur coat when the cat washes itself.

Some cats do not have this Fel D1 protein, which doesn't seem to harm them and makes them hypoallergic. Cats without Fel D1 are most commonly found amongst siberian forrest cats, as far as I know. Unfortunatelly this is not a rule and some siberians will have it while others don't have the Fel D1 protein.

In other words you'd have to test each kitten in a litter to figure out which ones are hypoallergic and which aren't. To do this you'd have to take a fur sample from each kitten and do a skin test.

As said- to my knowledge bengals are no more likely to be hypoallergic then any other cat so I don't really think that her bengals would be an exception though this is possible.

Allerca lifestye cats is a scam with "hypoallergic" bengals, but this doesn't mean that bengals are hypoallergic. For this to be the case they would have to be bred with hypoallergic cats, which they aren't.

Hope this was helpfull,

Christine

cjh27 · Apr 18, 2009

... forgot to mention that siames cats also aren't known to be hypoallergic.

You will have to visit her to find out if her claims are valid, sorry. Maybe you could ask her to cut off a bit of fur and send it to you if you live far away.

Christine

ferriscat · Apr 18, 2009

Originally Posted by wandererkm

are these Bengalmese truly hypoallergenic as she claims. I spoke to her regarding her kittens in depth the other night and am looking to seriously buy a kitten however, I think 400 is steep for a mixed breed kitten that may or may not be hypoallergenic. Can someone please help me out and quick.
thanks

No cat is truly hypoallergenic, and I doubt a mixed breed will be, but you never know . . . A lot of people have reported fewer allergic reactions with Siberians. Some people find having a cat with less coat is helpful (eg: the Sphynx and rexes.) I have found cats without undercoats work best for me (I am allergic to cats and an asthmatic) and I breed Turkish Vans and have Egyptian Mau cats.

cjh27 · Apr 18, 2009

It may also be of inererst that neutered cats produce a lot less Fel D1 and that female cats produce less then male cats.

So your best bet ist to find a siberian breeder and ask if you can have some fur for allergy testing- and then choose a girl which you should have neuterd if the allergy test goes well for you.

Christine

GoldyCat · Apr 18, 2009

$400 is excessively high for a mixed breed kitten IMO, especially one that is a pet only and cannot be shown. I was looking at her website earlier today and saw one place where she listed the prices as $600 for spotted, $800 for marbled, and $1,000 for orange kittens. I'm wondering if she's reduced her prices because she has so many kittens that she can't sell.

I don't know that there is such a thing as a hypoallergenic cat. Allergens affect each person differently. These kittens are a siamese/bengal mix and I'm pretty sure I couldn't have one in my home. Siamese is the only breed I've come across (so far) that really makes my allergies kick in.

If you're serious about getting one of these kittens, is there some way you could visit first and spend enough time there to find out if your allergies are going to be a problem?

cjh27 · Apr 18, 2009

Originally Posted by FerrisCat

No cat is truly hypoallergenic,

Good point- the prefix "hypo" in hypoallergic means "less" not non- allergic. It may simply be a question of how severe the allergy is.

Christine

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