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post #1 of 26
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Hello

I just bought a 10 pound bag of a cat food called NOW which is 100 percent fresh meat and grain free!

It is meant for senior or fat cats! I paid 42 dollars canadian for a 10 pound bag do you think that is a decent price?

Anyone heard of this? I am excited to feed my cats it!I Got it from the same place i got my other grain free foods!

it is made out of turkey and duck might not be a good thing because i have 2 pet ducks! LOL!
post #2 of 26
Yes, Now is a good food ... here in the states it is much $$$$ , 10 lbs was 60ish USD .... I do worry about seniors on a high protein DRY though ... what is the protein??
post #3 of 26
found ingredient lists at their site:
senior dry
De-boned Turkey, Potato Flour, Pea, Pea Fiber, Whole Dried Egg, Potato,Tomato, Flaxseed, Apple, Canola Oil (preserved with mixed tocopherols, a source of Vitamin E), Sun Dried Alfalfa, Natural Flavors, De-boned Salmon, De-boned Duck,Coconut Oil (preserved with mixed tocopherols, a source of Vitamin E), Dicalcium Phosphate, Calcium Carbonate, Phosphoric Acid, Sodium Chloride, Lecithin, Potassium Chloride, Fruit: ( pumpkin, bananas, blueberries, cranberries, raspberries, blackberries, papaya, pineapple), Vegetables: ( carrots, lentil beans, broccoli, spinach, alfalfa sprouts, garlic), Cottage Cheese, DL Methionine, Taurine, Zeolite, Vitamins: ( vitamin A, vitamin E, Vitamin C, niacin: source of Vitamin B3 thiamine mononitrate: source of Vitamin B1, pyridoxine hydrochloride: source of Vitamin B6, Riboflavin : source of Vitamin B2, Vitamin K, beta-carotene, inositol: source of Vitamin B8, d-calcium panthothenate, vitamin D3, folic acid: (source of vitamin B9, biotin: source of vitamin B7 or H, vitamin B12) , Minerals: (zinc proteinate, ferrous sulfate, zinc oxide, iron proteinate, copper sulfate, copper proteinate, manganese proteinate, manganous oxide, calcium iodate, sodium selenite) , Kelp, L-Lysine, Prebiotics: (chicory root extract, mannanoligosaccharides), Probiotics: lactobacillus acidophilus, lactobacillus casei, enterococcus faecium, bifido bacterium thermophilum), Glucosamine Hydrochloride, Ascorbyl-Polyphosphate, Digestive Enzymes: ( dried trichoderma viride fermentation extract, dried aspergillus niger fermentation extract, dried aspergillus oryzae fermentation extract) , Yucca Schidigera Extract, Marigold Extract, L-Carnitine, Chondroitin Sulphate, Dried Rosemary.

adult dry
De-boned turkey, potato flour, pea, potato, pea fibre, whole dried egg, tomato, canola oil (preserved with mixed tocopherols, a source of vitamin E), flaxseed, natural flavors, coconut oil (preserved with mixed tocopherols, a source of vitamin E), salmon, de-boned duck, apple, carrots, pumpkin, bananas, blueberries, cranberries, raspberries, blackberries, papaya, pineapple, grapefruit, lentil beans, broccoli, spinach, cottage cheese, alfalfa sprouts, dicalcium phosphate, sun-dried alfalfa, calcium carbonate, phosphoric acid, sodium chloride, lecithin, potassium chloride, DL methionine, taurine, Vitamins: (vitamin E supplement, L-ascorbyl-2-polyphosphate(source of vitamin C), niacin, inositol, vitamin A supplement, thiamine mononitrate, d-calcium pantothenate, pyridoxine hydrochloride, riboflavin, beta-carotene, vitamin D3 supplement, folic acid, biotin, vitamin B12 supplement), Minerals: (zinc proteinate, ferrous sulfate, zinc oxide, iron proteinate, copper sulfate, copper proteinate, manganese proteinate, manganous oxide, calcium iodate, sodium selenite), dried kelp, L-lysine, chicory root extract, Lactobacillus acidophilus, Lactobacillus casei, Enterococcus faecium, Bifidobacterium thermophilum, dried Aspergillus niger fermentation extract, dried Aspergillus oryzae fermentation extract, yucca schidigera extract, L-carnitine, marigold extract, dried rosemary
post #4 of 26
BIG to Laureen

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Originally Posted by laureen227 View Post
found ingredient lists at their site:
senior dry
De-boned TurkeyGreat but remember this is 66-76% water so the real first ingredient is potato flour, Potato Flour, Pea, Pea Fiber Potato could affect blood sugars ... peas are high in protein and also an allergen , Whole Dried Egg, PotatoMORE potato ie starch rice would be better than this amount of potato IMHO ... this is where the turkey really is ,Tomato, Flaxseed, Apple, Canola Oil (preserved with mixed tocopherols, a source of Vitamin E), Sun Dried Alfalfa, Natural FlavorsCanadian standards are bit tougher but in the US this can be msg , De-boned Salmon, De-boned Duck,Coconut Oil (preserved with mixed tocopherols, a source of Vitamin E), Dicalcium Phosphate, Calcium Carbonate, Phosphoric Acid, Sodium Chloride,Nothing wrong just the absorbabilty is >>??able and sodium chloride = table salt and IMHO is a bit high.. Lecithin, Potassium Chloride, Fruit: ( pumpkin, bananas, blueberries, cranberries, raspberries, blackberries, papaya, pineapple), Vegetables: ( carrots, lentil beans, broccoli, spinach, alfalfa sprouts, garlic) Cats do not need fruit and garlic is a NO NO NO , Cottage Cheeseallergen, DL Methionine, Taurine, Zeoliteclay ?? why , Vitamins: ( vitamin A, vitamin E, Vitamin C, niacin: source of Vitamin B3 thiamine mononitrate: source of Vitamin B1, pyridoxine hydrochloride: source of Vitamin B6, Riboflavin : source of Vitamin B2, Vitamin K, beta-carotene, inositol: source of Vitamin B8, d-calcium panthothenate, vitamin D3, folic acid: (source of vitamin B9, biotin: source of vitamin B7 or H, vitamin B12) , Minerals: (zinc proteinate, ferrous sulfate, zinc oxide, iron proteinate, copper sulfate, copper proteinate, manganese proteinate, manganous oxide, calcium iodate, sodium selenite) , Kelp, L-Lysine, Prebiotics: (chicory root extract, mannanoligosaccharides), Probiotics: lactobacillus acidophilus, lactobacillus casei, enterococcus faecium, bifido bacterium thermophilum), Glucosamine Hydrochloride, Ascorbyl-Polyphosphate, Digestive Enzymes: ( dried trichoderma viride fermentation extract, dried aspergillus niger fermentation extract, dried aspergillus oryzae fermentation extract) , Yucca Schidigera Extract, Marigold Extract, L-Carnitine, Chondroitin Sulphate, Dried Rosemary.

adult dry
De-boned turkey, potato flour, pea, potato, pea fibre, whole dried egg, tomato, canola oil (preserved with mixed tocopherols, a source of vitamin E), flaxseed, natural flavors, coconut oil (preserved with mixed tocopherols, a source of vitamin E), salmon, de-boned duck, apple, carrots, pumpkin, bananas, blueberries, cranberries, raspberries, blackberries, papaya, pineapple, grapefruit, lentil beans, broccoli, spinach, cottage cheese, alfalfa sprouts, dicalcium phosphate, sun-dried alfalfa, calcium carbonate, phosphoric acid, sodium chloride, lecithin, potassium chloride, DL methionine, taurine, Vitamins: (vitamin E supplement, L-ascorbyl-2-polyphosphate(source of vitamin C), niacin, inositol, vitamin A supplement, thiamine mononitrate, d-calcium pantothenate, pyridoxine hydrochloride, riboflavin, beta-carotene, vitamin D3 supplement, folic acid, biotin, vitamin B12 supplement), Minerals: (zinc proteinate, ferrous sulfate, zinc oxide, iron proteinate, copper sulfate, copper proteinate, manganese proteinate, manganous oxide, calcium iodate, sodium selenite), dried kelp, L-lysine, chicory root extract, Lactobacillus acidophilus, Lactobacillus casei, Enterococcus faecium, Bifidobacterium thermophilum, dried Aspergillus niger fermentation extract, dried Aspergillus oryzae fermentation extract, yucca schidigera extract, L-carnitine, marigold extract, dried rosemary
yes good food but
post #5 of 26
Thread Starter 
crude protien is 30% but the fat is 14% it also has omega 3! to hell with Orijen! (what i fed them b4)
post #6 of 26
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Originally Posted by chausiefan View Post
crude protien is 30% but the fat is 14% it also has omega 3! to hell with Orijen! (what i fed them b4)
ooking at the ingredients, to me, Orijen looks much better... are you looking for a lower-fat food for some reason?
post #7 of 26
Thread Starter 
Yeah i have 1 senior cat and one fat cat the vet told me finding a nice healthy grain free food that was a meant for older adult cats would be a great idea

I have one athletic young cat however and i will suppliment him with some wet food if i need to
post #8 of 26
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Originally Posted by chausiefan View Post
Yeah i have 1 senior cat and one fat cat the vet told me finding a nice healthy grain free food that was a meant for adult cats would be a great idea

I have one athletic young cat however and i will suppliment him with some wet food if i need to
Actually an all wet diet would help your cat lose some of that weight and is a healthier diet than dry food for both your cats. Dry food often is the culprit that packs on the weight. Just know that most vets don't know a whole lot about food except what Hills taught them in that hour class at vet school.
post #9 of 26
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Originally Posted by Yosemite View Post
Actually an all wet diet would help your cat lose some of that weight and is a healthier diet than dry food for both your cats. Dry food often is the culprit that packs on the weight. Just know that most vets don't know a whole lot about food except what Hills taught them in that hour class at vet school.
Very true

truthfully that protein is coming from the potato and peas ( likely 65% ) thus IMHO your better off feeding something like the Acana with grain that at least 50% of the protein is meat
post #10 of 26
Thread Starter 
you guys really feel that Orijen dry is better than NOW dry by a lot?
post #11 of 26
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Originally Posted by chausiefan View Post
you guys really feel that Orijen dry is better than NOW dry by a lot?
Oh yeah... Orijen is 75% meat, 25% fruits and veggies, and no grains... There are also no chemical additives.
Here are the ingredients:

Deboned chicken, chicken meal, turkey meal, russet potato, lake whitefish, chicken fat, sweet potato, whole eggs,deboned turkey, salmon meal, salmon and anchovy oils, salmon, natural chicken flavour, sunflower oil, sun-cured alfalfa, dried brown kelp, carrots, spinach, peas, tomatoes, apples, psyllium, dulse, glucosamine Hcl, cranberries, black currants, rosemary extract, chondroitin sulfate, sea salt.
post #12 of 26
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Originally Posted by chausiefan View Post
you guys really feel that Orijen dry is better than NOW dry by a lot?
well, i do - given that the meat sources in NOW are not meals, they're pretty low down on the list - potato & pea end up being 1st & 2nd ingredients.
that said - i don't use it, because mine won't eat it.
if you have a cat that needs weight loss, wet seems to be the best way... not that it seems to help my heavy one any.
post #13 of 26
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Originally Posted by carolinalima View Post
Oh yeah... Orijen is 75% meat, 25% fruits and veggies, and no grains... There are also no chemical additives.
Here are the ingredients:

Deboned chicken, chicken meal, turkey meal, russet potato, lake whitefish, chicken fat, sweet potato, whole eggs,deboned turkey, salmon meal, salmon and anchovy oils, salmon, natural chicken flavour, sunflower oil, sun-cured alfalfa, dried brown kelp, carrots, spinach, peas, tomatoes, apples, psyllium, dulse, glucosamine Hcl, cranberries, black currants, rosemary extract, chondroitin sulfate, sea salt.
It is comparing a Cadillac to a mid level Toyota IMHO
post #14 of 26
Thread Starter 
ok i think i will feed mine both wet and dry

is feeding wet full time more expensive than feeding dry full time?

If i am going wet food there seems to be a much larger option of food brands to choose from!|

I was hooked on the dry thing because my vet said dry food is good for their teeth
post #15 of 26
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Originally Posted by chausiefan View Post
ok i think i will feed mine both wet and dry

is feeding wet full time more expensive than feeding dry full time?

If i am going wet food there seems to be a much larger option of food brands to choose from!|

I was hooked on the dry thing because my vet said dry food is good for their teeth
yeah, a lot of them say that, but it's just not so.
depends on the cat, expense-wise - many say their costs are lower w/wet or raw only feedings. since raw's not available for me locally, i'm not going that route. wet only - i have 2 dry-only eaters, so not an option for me. besides, i'm often gone for long periods [up to 12 hours] & just don't feel right not leaving something available for them to eat.
post #16 of 26
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Originally Posted by chausiefan View Post
ok i think i will feed mine both wet and dry

is feeding wet full time more expensive than feeding dry full time? yes, it is... What you can do is feed a better quality dry food (such as Orijen ), and a more affordable wet food.This way the kitty can get the nutrition from the dry, and the water content from the wet. I am feeding Bugsy 1/2 cup of Orijen dry, plus 3oz of wet food - different brands, but all free of by-products.

If i am going wet food there seems to be a much larger option of food brands to choose from!|Yep, there is - try to stay clear of by-products though - there is a lot of junk wet food out there - I.E. Friskies

I was hooked on the dry thing because my vet said dry food is good for their teeth This is a big time myth that we all heard before
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post #17 of 26
Yes you can feed alot to all wet on a budget... I actually found it to be the same price to feed taste of the wild dry and wellness wet as just feeding orijen... I feed the three who eat wet 3-6 oz 2 times a day so I get up too two days per 13 oz can .... I checked friskies and it would cost the same as the wellness because they would eat double ... dry is avail all the time in pre measured amounts ...

For five cats I have the food bill at about 80$ a month ... this includes treats and some raw or homemade a few times a week ....

just feeding a low low grade wet would be about 120$ a month ... Just feeding high end dry about 70$ a month

BUY big cans of wet .. I also buy a case at a time which cuts 10% off the bill
post #18 of 26
Thread Starter 
Can any one tell me how taste of the wild compares to orijen?

Ingredients
Chicken meal, peas, sweet potatoes, chicken fat (preserved with mixed tocopherols), potato protein, roasted venison, smoked salmon, natural flavor, ocean fish meal, methionine, taurine, choline chloride, dried chicory root, tomatoes, blueberries, raspberries, yucca schidigera extract, Enterococcus faecium, Lactobacillus casei, Lactobacillus acidophilus, Saccharomyces cerevesiae fermentation solubles, dried Aspergillus oryzae fermentation extract, vitamin E supplement, niacin, manganese proteinate, copper proteinate, zinc sulfate, manganese sulfate, copper sulfate, thiamine mononitrate (vitamin B1), vitamin A supplement, biotin, potassium iodide, calcium pantothenate, riboflavin (vitamin B2), pyridoxine hydrochloride (vitamin B6), vitamin B12 supplement, manganous oxide, sodium selenite, vitamin D supplement, folic acid
post #19 of 26
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Originally Posted by chausiefan View Post
Can any one tell me how taste of the wild compares to orijen?

Ingredients
Chicken meal, peas, sweet potatoes, chicken fat (preserved with mixed tocopherols), potato protein, roasted venison, smoked salmon, natural flavor, ocean fish mealmatter of who , methionine, taurine, choline chloride, dried chicory root, tomatoes, blueberries, raspberries, yucca schidigera extract, Enterococcus faecium, Lactobacillus casei, Lactobacillus acidophilus, Saccharomyces cerevesiae fermentation solubles, dried Aspergillus oryzae fermentation extract, vitamin E supplement, niacin, manganese proteinate, copper proteinate, zinc sulfate, manganese sulfate, copper sulfate, thiamine mononitrate (vitamin B1), vitamin A supplement, biotin, potassium iodide, calcium pantothenate, riboflavin (vitamin B2), pyridoxine hydrochloride (vitamin B6), vitamin B12 supplement, manganous oxide, sodium selenite, vitamin D supplement, folic acid
it has a good amount of meat and protein from meat ... not as much as orijen but here it costs 12-25$ less for a 16 lb bag
post #20 of 26
Thread Starter 
wow thanks a lot it honestly seems like you guys know what you are talking about more than vets i know

okay my one last food id like compared is called T/D cat perscription diet. It is a food my vet has always been telling me to get! Saying its great blah blah blah.

I fed them it for a while but than changed to grain free

I am trying to find the ingred it is a canadian brand i believe brb
post #21 of 26
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Originally Posted by chausiefan View Post
wow thanks a lot it honestly seems like you guys know what you are talking about more than vets i know

okay my one last food id like compared is called T/D cat perscription diet. It is a food my vet has always been telling me to get! Saying its great blah blah blah.

I fed them it for a while but than changed to grain free

I am trying to find the ingred it is a canadian brand i believe brb
Vets do have an agenda with Hills... They have very little, close to none training in nutrition, and the little they get, they usually get from Hills, which is why they push it. If your cat doesn't have a health problem that would require a certain prescription food, get away from it. It is pretty much junk, and the ingredients are awful. Follow the other plan you have in mind
post #22 of 26
What is costs to feed wet will depend entirely on what you feed and where you live. I pay $1.69 per 3.5 ounce can of Merrick food for Bijou. He eats one can a day - 1/2 in the am and 1/2 at night. In between he has 1/3 cup of Orijen (I am going to be switching him to Acana when the Orijen is finished which should be soon). I do not get a discount by buying by the case - I still pay $1.69 per can. I know Merrick's is much cheaper in the US but I think it's a great food quality wise and as long as I can afford it I'll buy it.

I also pay a lot for Orijen but again, I don't mind paying for quality food as long as I can afford it.

There are good quality foods out there that won't cost as much as I pay, but Bijou is picky and won't eat any other wet foods.
post #23 of 26
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Originally Posted by sharky View Post
I feed the three who eat wet 3-6 oz 2 times a day so I get up too two days per 13 oz can ....

BUY big cans of wet .. I also buy a case at a time which cuts 10% off the bill
How do you get your cats to eat "leftovers?" Or do I just have two spoiled picky-pants cats who know mom will open up a new can if they don't eat what I give them the first time?
post #24 of 26
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How do you get your cats to eat "leftovers?" Or do I just have two spoiled picky-pants cats who know mom will open up a new can if they don't eat what I give them the first time?
You have spoiled cats.

I usually add a couple tablespoons of hot water to the food I take out of the fridge to warm it up a bit for Bijou.
post #25 of 26
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Originally Posted by Misty8723 View Post
How do you get your cats to eat "leftovers?" Or do I just have two spoiled picky-pants cats who know mom will open up a new can if they don't eat what I give them the first time?
I have 3 eating machines and they actually eat the same flavor for a month strait ....
post #26 of 26
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Originally Posted by chausiefan View Post
okay my one last food id like compared is called T/D cat perscription diet. It is a food my vet has always been telling me to get! Saying its great blah blah blah.
My vet encourages me to use this food as well, because it is designed for dental health. I believe there are only one or two foods that have been shown to help with dental hygiene, and this is one of them.

I don't like the ingredients either, but one of my guys has a touch of gingivitis, and he's pretty young. I compromise by feeding my choice of food but giving him a few t/d kibbles at night as a treat. If my cat didn't have dental issues, though, I'd probably skip it.

I do wish we had more scientific studies on feline nutrition!
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