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My son has Influenza

post #1 of 22
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I finally broke down and took him to the doctor today. On Saturday he started running a fever, and it hovered around 101, but on Sunday evening it got up to 103. Just a moderate fever and I wasn't too worried about it, since I asked him over and over again if anything hurt (like his throat or something), but the only thing he complained about was a headache. The fever broke yesterday and has been normal since, but yesterday he also started complaining about a sore throat and developed a pretty nasty cough. According to him, it is like someone is stabbing him every time he swallows. So I took him in. Poor kid has Influenza, but there really wasn't much I could have done for him, or much the doctor can do for him, anyway.

I just can't decide if I should send him back to school or not. His doctor said if he is feeling better he can go back tomorrow. I don't see that happening, but still. At the hospital I worked at, there was a breakout of Influenza in the hospital, so anyone with symptoms was forced out of work and had to stay out for at least 5 days, and couldn't return until you felt A LOT better. Some tailing symptoms were still allowed, but you had to wear a mask until all symptoms were gone. I guess I'm answering my own question, but I don't want to take the risk of DS getting anyone sick since he won't be forced to wear a mask (I had to threaten him to wear one just on the way out of the doctor's office) and I know he still feels like crap. The doctor did give us an absence note, but I still feel like a bad parent keeping him out of school. LOL
post #2 of 22
I would keep him home until he is better. Tomorrow and Friday if necessary. He won’t be able to focus if he doesn’t feel well anyway and I’m sure his teachers would rather deal with him being out of school than with an outbreak of flu in class. You could try calling or emailing his teachers and bringing him some school work home to do from there so he doesn’t get too behind?
post #3 of 22
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Originally Posted by CruiserMaiden View Post
I’m sure his teachers would rather deal with him being out of school than with an outbreak of flu in class.
Given the time between one is infected with it and shows signs of symptoms, it's much too late to worry about that. Chances are he caught it at school to begin with.

Personally, I'd let him have tomorrow but make him work on his school work and rest. The crummier symptoms from the flu can last 7-10 days and if you kept him home until he was better you'd likely have the school trying to report you for keeping him out - doctor's note or not. Here's it's 4 days missed and they call on you.
You may want to double check what his school's rules are concerning absences.
post #4 of 22
Hon, I think you should keep him home tomorrow at least. Even if he's feeling better he needs to build his strength back up especially after having a fever, and if you have a doctor's note to cover it everything should be fine.

I never understood the "go to school/work even if sick" logic. My work wants us to come in regarless of how we're feeling, Dr's note or not. Whether it's a virus or bacteria based illness, I STILL wouldn't want to sit next to someone that is sick and I don't think anyone wants to sit next to me if I've got something similiar. I know how fast and how frequently viruses and germs spread while in a confinded area. Probably the reason you couldn't work at the hospital is more for the protection of the patients with compromised immune systems than for your own comfort. While most kids have a better immune system than someone in the hospital, you never know...and who knows what someone else has that your son might catch while he's still weak from this. I don't think that makes you a bad mother at all.
post #5 of 22
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Originally Posted by strange_wings View Post
Given the time between one is infected with it and shows signs of symptoms, it's much too late to worry about that. Chances are he caught it at school to begin with.

Personally, I'd let him have tomorrow but make him work on his school work and rest. The crummier symptoms from the flu can last 7-10 days and if you kept him home until he was better you'd likely have the school trying to report you for keeping him out - doctor's note or not. Here's it's 4 days missed and they call on you.
You may want to double check what his school's rules are concerning absences.
Here they are pretty laxed...and can't count it against you if you have a doctor's note. That's why our doctor didn't write a specific date on when he is free to return to school b/c she wants us to decide when we think he is ready.

I know the reason for staying out was to protect the patients, that was my point. Even after the 5 days, I don't think my son is ready to go back b/c I don't want anyone else to get sick. His symptoms are still there, and he really isn't feeling any better. That was a rule at our hospital, that you had to feel quite a lot better before you could go back, even after the 5 days. There were some people that were out for up to 2 weeks. My son is on the last stretch, but I just don't want other children to get sick. I'm pretty sure we're keeping him home tomorrow. Most likely I'll keep him home on Friday also, just in case, that way he'll have the extra two days from the weekend to continue to get better before going back to school.
post #6 of 22
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I know the reason for staying out was to protect the patients, that was my point. Even after the 5 days, I don't think my son is ready to go back b/c I don't want anyone else to get sick. His symptoms are still there, and he really isn't feeling any better. That was a rule at our hospital, that you had to feel quite a lot better before you could go back, even after the 5 days. There were some people that were out for up to 2 weeks. My son is on the last stretch, but I just don't want other children to get sick. I'm pretty sure we're keeping him home tomorrow. Most likely I'll keep him home on Friday also, just in case, that way he'll have the extra two days from the weekend to continue to get better before going back to school.
I think you're doing the right thing. I just pointed that out because you said you thought you were a bad parent for keeping him home, which you're not and you know that! Even if he doesn't have a fever he's still not up to par right now, and not only wouldn't he be able to concentrate, he may catch it again.

I know you know what you're doing, so I'll shut up now. Just give your son a bowl of ice cream for me.
post #7 of 22
Don't feel bad about keeping your son out of school if he still feels nasty.

My kids were having a pretty good year with absences. My youngest had missed 4 days of school up until the beginning of this month. 2 of them were HER fault (she made a poor choice for a friend and that friend got her and 2 other kids 2 days of OSS b/c of a slam book - sigh). Then there were the 2 days that both kids missed b/c I pulled them from school. My sister and I threw a surprise 70th birthday party for her. Mom and my sister live 8 hours from me. The kids REALLY wanted to go- besides the OSS incident, my youngest has been carrying all A's for the last 2 grading periods, and my oldest hadn't missed any school at all.

Then February hit. I got the virus from heck. I was sick for a WEEK. I've had this cough for almost 2 weeks, I think it's almost gone. And yes- I was bad and went to work 3 days of it. And I shouldn't have. One of the days I was at work until 1am, then had an hour's drive back home (I wasn't driving thankfully). 2 of the days I got sent home. My youngest got it- was out of school for 3 days last week. Oldest came down with it on Sunday, thankfully she only missed 1 day of school. But my oldest is also a freshman in high school, so her workload is more than her sister who is in 6th grade.

I'd heard that the middle school starts complaining if your child misses more than 5 days of school, but I haven't gotten any nasty notes from the school- yet. The only thing I know about the high school, is if you miss more than 9 days a semester (they're on block scheduling) that you can run the risk of failing ALL of your core classes that semester (I don't think PE and electives count- but I could be wrong)

I hope your son feels better soon. And that the school's pretty nice about absences- esp with a doctor's note.

Cheryl
post #8 of 22
I had the same discussion with my neighbour. I keep my kids home when they are sick. My neighbours says she doesn't care how sick they are, she doesn't want them to miss school. I phoned our school and asked, They told me they would rather you keep them home. Not only do they infect other kids and staff. The kids don't get much work done.
post #9 of 22
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I don't want people to think I'm the mom from h*ll. LMAO I tend to sway towards the safe side and keep my kid home with even a small cough. I know it is the best thing to do, but I still feel guilty. He's only missed 3 days of school so far this year, and I've never ever kept him out for more than 2 days in a row. This kid just never gets sick. I wouldn't want someone else's kid to go to school and get my son sick. I have worked in daycare for ages, and nothing drives me nuts worse than parents that bring their sick kids to daycare to get everyone else sick, just to have to come back and pick them up. I understand that have responsibilities and have to work, but now they just caused 5 other parents to have to miss work.
post #10 of 22
I'm soo sorry to hear your little guy isn't feeling good. I hope he gets to feeling better quickly!!
post #11 of 22
Poor little fella... hope he feels better fast.
post #12 of 22
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Well, he's definitely NOT going to school tomorrow. I thought he was starting to feel better, but before he went to bed he started coughing up a storm and couldn't stop. The doctor prescribed him some Phenergen with Codeine, and I was hoping he wouldn't need it, but he did. I gave him some, and luckily it knocked him out. Thank goodness he's not allergic to codeine like I am. I hope he feels a bit better tomorrow, or he's going to be drugged up on codeine all day.
post #13 of 22
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Originally Posted by kara_leigh View Post
Well, he's definitely NOT going to school tomorrow. I thought he was starting to feel better, but before he went to bed he started coughing up a storm and couldn't stop. The doctor prescribed him some Phenergen with Codeine, and I was hoping he wouldn't need it, but he did. I gave him some, and luckily it knocked him out. Thank goodness he's not allergic to codeine like I am. I hope he feels a bit better tomorrow, or he's going to be drugged up on codeine all day.
You are doing the right thing... I would send him on Monday only, for 2 reasons: 1-He will get worse if he doesn't rest; 2- He will spread it around...

I hope he gets better soon... poor baby!
post #14 of 22
Get well soon vibes for you son
post #15 of 22
Sending get well for your son too
post #16 of 22
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I'll be calling the doctor again tomorrow. He seems to have gotten worse today. His cough is horrible and isn't controlled hardly at all with the Phenergen with Codeine (and if it is, I don't want to imagine what it would be like without it) and his fever came back tonight. I'm sure the codeine has put him in a stupor, but he just seems miserable. I hope this goes away soon.

Thank you everyone for your well wishes.

His Valentine's party at school is tomorrow since school was called off last Friday. One of the other moms from his class stopped by to pick up his valentines and his box so he can still hand them out and get some in return, and she promised to snag some of the treats for him also. I sent her a message and asked her if she thought it would be okay if I dropped them off, since she is the PTA president at the school. She offered instead to pick them up, which I thought was nice.
post #17 of 22
I was not feeling great Tues, didn't sleep well, but went to work & then shelter anyways. Didn't sleep well again Tues PM. Woke up Wed feeling like . Couldn't even stand up without just about passing out. Ate almost nothing all day. Feeling better today, had dad drive me 30 minutes (one way) to the grocery store, to see how I did & to get "simple" food - skipped the shelter tonight. Coughing like crazy, dizzy again, feeling like crud. I ache - assuming I won't sleep well again. And I was *supposed* to work tomorrow, not sure I will make it in.

Sorry to hijack, but if your son feels like I do, I'm not going anywhere until I've felt much better for at least 24 hours. I pushed myself to see what would happen today & I worse off now again, rather than still getting better.
post #18 of 22
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Originally Posted by kara_leigh View Post
I'll be calling the doctor again tomorrow. He seems to have gotten worse today. His cough is horrible and isn't controlled hardly at all with the Phenergen with Codeine (and if it is, I don't want to imagine what it would be like without it) and his fever came back tonight. I'm sure the codeine has put him in a stupor, but he just seems miserable. I hope this goes away soon.
I'm not sure how phenergan would help coughing, unless it has dextromethorphan in it too. If not, that's why it isn't doing much.

As for him being in a stupor - that's likely not the codeine. Phenergan is sedative, antihistamine, antiemetic, and at larger doses an antipsychotic (it's original use). It's also a strong anticholinergic (lots of side effects because of this) which is why I now have it in my medical records as a medication that I cannot be given at all. If you've never had it given to you, just a little warning if your blood pressure is low - it can make that much worse.

Chances are if he's coughing that much there may be a secondary infection now or bronchitis. Personally I've never found anything to help the cough that comes from bronchitis, only getting the infection under control helped.
post #19 of 22
Poor guy. How old is he?

I've only had the flu 2 times in my life (too many people say flu when its just a cold or some other virus) and it was AWFUL. The fever, the soreness, just yuck.

Lots of get well for him.
post #20 of 22
I hope your son feels better soon! I'm sorry he missed his V-day party, but I hope he got a lot of sweethearts. Let us know how he's doing.
post #21 of 22
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Originally Posted by strange_wings View Post
I'm not sure how phenergan would help coughing, unless it has dextromethorphan in it too. If not, that's why it isn't doing much.

As for him being in a stupor - that's likely not the codeine. Phenergan is sedative, antihistamine, antiemetic, and at larger doses an antipsychotic (it's original use). It's also a strong anticholinergic (lots of side effects because of this) which is why I now have it in my medical records as a medication that I cannot be given at all. If you've never had it given to you, just a little warning if your blood pressure is low - it can make that much worse.

Chances are if he's coughing that much there may be a secondary infection now or bronchitis. Personally I've never found anything to help the cough that comes from bronchitis, only getting the infection under control helped.
According to this http://www.healthsquare.com/newrx/phe1333.htm both the Phenergan and the Codeine help with coughing. *shrug* I have been prescribed Phenergan for nausea control in the past (I still have some in my cupboard) but it didn't work well enough so I have a standing rx for Compazine now. I have it for my Addison's, to prevent vomiting. I do have low blood pressure, but I never noticed the Phenergen to bother me. It just didn't work. I used to use it as a sleeping aid on occasion when I couldn't sleep, before I was put on Ambien.

I have no clue about a body's reaction to Codeine since I'm allergic to it and haven't had it since I was in middle school, when I found that out. I just assumed that his stupor was from that. He did pretty good today, and wasn't coughing very much. He went quite a while without medication, but tonight he started coughing again and I gave him some. He seems to be on the upward climb, though!

The mother from his class dropped his valentines off today, along with a bunch of treats from the party. He was SOOO excited!
post #22 of 22
Supposedly it helps with coughing if it's from a histamine reaction - being an antihistamie.

With my reaction to it, I'm not sure if it was strictly from it reacting with another med I was on (pharmacy did not know enough to catch this one) or because it's an anticholinergic. Others with dysautonomia with low BP have reported it making them feel horrible so I think it might just be the med itself. It caused very bad anxiety and made me startle from the slightest noises - it would feel like mini panic attacks. The rush from this was so bad I'd actually fall. Between the weird panic attacks it did have me very dazed out feeling and lightheaded. And you're right, it did little for the nausea, too.
This spooked me enough that I have in my med records to never be given it again and I warn others about the drug because it does have a lot of side effects.

As I've mentioned before codeine and pain meds don't really do anything to me - so maybe in one more sensitive to them they could possibly cause drowsiness. Still putting bets on it being the phenergan knocking him out, though.


The worst part about getting sick is the cough, IMO. I'm glad to hear he's on the mend. Hopefully by Monday he'll be well enough to make it back to school.

I remember back when I was in fifth grade, I got sick and ended up with a cough that lasted for three months. I could hardly stay out of school for it but the teachers and other students would actually get mad at me for coughing. I seriously hope that no one else ever has to go through something like that.
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