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post #1 of 28
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DH got hydrocodone for his kidney stone and I got to thinking. Most narcotic type meds make people tired but DH and I are the opposite. We get hyper. I wonder what would cause that. Do anyone else get hyper on pain meds?
post #2 of 28
I made the mistake of taking the night time Nyquil one time and my eyes flung themselves open and I got all this energy and couldn't sleep the whole night. So, yes, I know what you mean.
post #3 of 28
Actually I have the same problem.

Last year when I smashed my finger the emergency room doc gave me some vicodan and a prescription and I mentioned to him that I thought this was supposed to make one drowsy and it wired me instead.

He called it the "paradox effect" as it does relieve the pain but doesn't make one drowsy. He advised to take half the pill instead of the whole one. I did this and I didn't get wired up and was able to sleep-well as best as possible with a smashed/stitched finger.
You might want to try half a pill (they last longer that way!!)
post #4 of 28
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Originally Posted by GailC View Post
Actually I have the same problem.

Last year when I smashed my finger the emergency room doc gave me some vicodan and a prescription and I mentioned to him that I thought this was supposed to make one drowsy and it wired me instead.

He called it the "paradox effect" as it does relieve the pain but doesn't make one drowsy. He advised to take half the pill instead of the whole one. I did this and I didn't get wired up and was able to sleep-well as best as possible with a smashed/stitched finger.
You might want to try half a pill (they last longer that way!!)
Shoot I still get hyper with a half.
post #5 of 28
Hydrocodone is sold as Vicodin and other names.

For Vicodin, the common side effects may include (quoting the web) dizziness, light-headedness, nausea, sedation, vomiting, and constipation.

LESS COMMON SIDE EFFECTS: allergic reactions, blood disorders, mood changes, mental cloudiness, anxiety, lethargy, urine retention, ureteral spasm, irregular breathing, respiratory depression, and skin rash.

I only took Vicodin a few times as prescribed and I always stopped taking it before the prescription ran out. That was because I had no more pain and I always felt dizzy after taking it. It was as if my body had just migrated to somewhere other than where it should be. ( I think that that would be mental cloudiness). All I ever wanted to do was sleep.

Might want to check with the doctor.
post #6 of 28
My doc has me on Hydrocodone for my back pain, but it makes me drowsy - not hyper. But all meds affect people differently.

The muscle relaxers are what really knocks me on my butt, so I avoid taking them during the daytime.

post #7 of 28
Vicodin also keeps me awake unless I take a lot of it. I took it for about 2 weeks after my thumb surgery earlier this year. The doc gave me 5mg tablets. I had another prescription of 7.5mg. The pain was so bad that I doubled the 7.5 dose and was then able to sleep (they cut my nail off and yes it felt like someone took a hammer to my thumb). Of course I also was fighting an infection so that sapped my energy. Once the infection started to clear up, I had trouble sleeping again so dropped the vicodin.

Come to think of it, I had surgery at a hospital many years ago. The nurse came in and gave me the pre-surgery shot which was supposed to knock me out. 45 minutes later I had to use the bathroom so got out of bed and walked over to it. On my way out the nurse was walking into the room. Her eyes got wide, she asked if they had given me a shot (yes), she ran across the room, grabbed me and held me up while walking me back to the bed. I asked her why she did that and she told me that I should have been passed out by then. I told her I didn't even feel it. She put the rails up on the bed so I wouldn't fall out of it. I just laughed.
post #8 of 28
I've always had that problem a bit myself. I always thought of it as my body being so happy to be free of the pain, it doesn't want to go to sleep, but wants to stay awake to savor the moment.

Caffeine also makes me sleepy...
post #9 of 28
I had a shoulder manipulation in June for my frozen shoulder. They put you under and move the shoulder again to rip all of the adhesions. Lots of pops and crackles as they break apart. I had it done to the other shoulder 7 years ago and it was awesome. This time, I woke up to pain in my shoulder and my elbow - couldn't even move it all. They gave my 5mg of IV Morphine - still hurt. After another 5 mg of IV Morphine, I walked out of the surgery center and straight to physical therapy. I never did get sleepy.
However, I can take half a vicodin and be asleep in 30 minutes.
Strange.
post #10 of 28
Codeine triggers panic attacks for me... and the one time I took a Percodan, I had what I guess must have been a "bad trip" -- chills and sweats, waking nightmares, feelings of things crawling all over me... brrrrrrr! Never again!
post #11 of 28
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Originally Posted by kluchetta View Post
I've always had that problem a bit myself. I always thought of it as my body being so happy to be free of the pain, it doesn't want to go to sleep, but wants to stay awake to savor the moment.

Caffeine also makes me sleepy...
that's unusual... do you have ADHD? 'cause uppers [including caffeine] will make people w/ADHD calmer. that's one of the signs we watch for as teachers when a child is on Ritalin for ADHD - if they get sleepy, the dose is usually too high for them.
post #12 of 28
I do not like Hydrocodone/Vicodin.
It makes me very Dizzy and I didnt even finish the whole bottle.
post #13 of 28
Well it's nice to know I'm not the only one. Vicodan also makes me hyper. I thought I was just weird!
post #14 of 28
Hydrocodone makes me Nauseous with a capital N....

I prefer pain of surgery to ick of vicodin.
post #15 of 28
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Originally Posted by laureen227 View Post
that's unusual... do you have ADHD? 'cause uppers [including caffeine] will make people w/ADHD calmer. that's one of the signs we watch for as teachers when a child is on Ritalin for ADHD - if they get sleepy, the dose is usually too high for them.
DH has either ADD or ADHD. Not sure if I do or not, I get bored and sidetracked easily, are those symptoms? Oh yeah, I always have to fiddle with something too.
post #16 of 28
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Hydrocodone makes me Nauseous with a capital N....
me, too
post #17 of 28
Tramadol tends to make me talk a lot. Other pain meds haven't done anything other then cause dry mouth and worsen my dry eye.

Unfortunately the tramadol stopped doing much of anything for bad pain too..
post #18 of 28
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Originally Posted by laureen227 View Post
that's unusual... do you have ADHD? 'cause uppers [including caffeine] will make people w/ADHD calmer. that's one of the signs we watch for as teachers when a child is on Ritalin for ADHD - if they get sleepy, the dose is usually too high for them.
I know - isn't that weird???? I never THOUGHT I had ADHD...I was a very good student, and could concentrate so thoroughly on a book that I would need physical intervention to get through to me (if the teacher said, "put up your books" I never heard her - she would have to touch me.) And coffee always made me sleepy - I always assumed it was the "warmness" of coffee that made me feel relaxed.

My daughter is the same way - caffeine makes her sleepy, and codeine makes her hyper.

Oh, and back "then" there wasn't ADHD or ADD or anything like that. That I know of.

The human body and mind are very interesting, are they not?
post #19 of 28
I had the same with Oxycodone/Percocet - the pain after my heart surgery was worst at night, but if I took an oxycodone I would be lying awake buzzed, and unable to sleep. So DH knew that if I took it, I was desperate and in a huge amount of pain!
post #20 of 28
When I was given Vicodin.....I became an argumental beligerent person. I decked my daddy. I was told I acted like an "angry drunk".

They then said "no more pain meds for Natty".
post #21 of 28
Ultracet was fine but I dont remember a few days

Percocet see above

Tramadol made me so weird I nearly called 911

Codiene is a great sleep aid ( I have chonic bronchitis)
post #22 of 28
I hate Vicodin and will not take it anymore. Not only did I get dizzy it gave me stomach aches and I threw it up. It never made me tired. The funny thing is the pain I was given vicodin for didnt go away with it but it helped other pains.
post #23 of 28
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Ultracet was fine but I dont remember a few days

Percocet see abouve

Tramadol made me so weird I nearly called 911
Ultracet is just tramadol with acetaminophen - that's what all the "cet" pain killers are. Unless you're very sensitive to acetaminophen (that it alone can cause painkiller type side effects) there shouldn't be any additional side effects that the tramadol didn't already cause by itself.


I've been taking tramadol and acetaminophen for the last few days because my back is badly flared up, that combo is barely touching the pain. I've read, and posted a link before, about differing genetics affecting one's sensitivity or tolerance to pain killers... unfortunately I can't recall what ethnic groups/ancestry they say tend to be more tolerant. Under that group of medicines though, are beta blockers, narcotic pain killers, and anti depressants (maybe because they all involve/affect the central nervous system) - I'll have to look this up again sometime.
post #24 of 28
I got vicodin when I got my wisdom teeth out, but I barely took any. The anesthetic didn't wear completely off (I went to a surgeon, with the serious drugs) so by the time I felt normal again the pain was pretty okay. Went back to work after 3 days.

It made me feel kinda gross and didn't help my face any more than taking an extra aleve.

I get hopped up on "sleep aids" too like Nyquil or Tylenol PM. Dramamine is the only thing that actually puts me out.
post #25 of 28
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Ultracet is just tramadol with acetaminophen - that's what all the "cet" pain killers are. Unless you're very sensitive to acetaminophen (that it alone can cause painkiller type side effects) there shouldn't be any additional side effects that the tramadol didn't already cause by itself.


I've been taking tramadol and acetaminophen for the last few days because my back is badly flared up, that combo is barely touching the pain. I've read, and posted a link before, about differing genetics affecting one's sensitivity or tolerance to pain killers... unfortunately I can't recall what ethnic groups/ancestry they say tend to be more tolerant. Under that group of medicines though, are beta blockers, narcotic pain killers, and anti depressants (maybe because they all involve/affect the central nervous system) - I'll have to look this up again sometime.
likely there would be a issue...lol.. the coating on one OTC pain pill made me sick ( I guess I am very touchy ) I seldom take acetaminophen because of the issues I have with it
post #26 of 28
I have to watch which type of pain Meds I take as well..I can't take Tylenol with codeine because that does make me really hyper..However when my knees or hands are acting up really badly I use Percocet which works fine.

I think I have a problem with the tylenol because it has caffeine in it as well and I am superly sensitive to caffeine.

I have to watch it though because I took a really severe reaction to Valtrone earlier this year and ended up with Gastric bleeding so anything that has
aspirin or ibuprofen in it is out for me...
post #27 of 28
Mm i don't know about pain meds, but energy drinks do absolutely nothing for me! I still feel tired after taking them. But if i have Big M double strength coffee, i go ZING all day long and get giggly and weird at night time and there's only about 1% coffee in it lol.

Just thought i'd share
post #28 of 28
Best combination of meds i've ever had was Tramadal and Skilaxin (sp?) - I was in a really bad car wreck several years ago (F150 rear ended me when I was at a dead stop and she was going close to 70mph. She totaled my car and I wound up having to go to the ER and through 6 months of physical therapy for my neck and back) - That combination of meds helped soo much though! I felt just fine when I took that One was a muscle relaxer and the other a pain killer.

I've never gotten hyper off pain meds though- just sleepy and had a "hazy" feeling if that makes sense.
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