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post #1 of 25
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I know Ive already asked this once but he has grown quite a bit since those first few pictures of him and he seems to have darkened quite a bit...but I was wondering What color is he and also do you think he is pure bred(it doesnt matter to me honestly he doesnt have papers Its just out of curiosity)Hes beauiful either way and We him just the same!!

post #2 of 25
Thread Starter 
also wanted to add that some of his coloring appears to be black while other places look more chocolate
post #3 of 25
He is a Seal Colorpoint. And a cutie at that. He will continue to darken as he grows.
post #4 of 25
Thread Starter 
thanks I know I had asked that ? before but I wasnt sure if they could change colors or if they just darkened with age...Thanks so much!!
post #5 of 25
Seal colorpoint ragdoll type of kitten - he's cute and handsome
post #6 of 25
Could be Himalayan too possibly. But I do agree with Seal Point. Gorgeous cat too BTW.
post #7 of 25
Doubt its himi simply cause of the ears - far to large and pointed - even a pet quality himi would not have those ears.
post #8 of 25
I'd say Birman more than Ragdoll - iro the facial coloring.
post #9 of 25
he could resemble some breed but you would never be sure if he is pure.
a handsome boy
post #10 of 25
Oh yes, seal point. As to breed, I leave that to the experts. But oh myohmy, what a gorgeous kitty!!!!! prrrrrrrrrrr!
post #11 of 25
I agree with what others say about his color. But as for breed I personally do not think he is purebred. He does not look at all like a pet quality Persian and Birmans have white feet. Ragdolls I am not as sure, I don't know a lot about their standard but for some reason he does not resemble a Ragdoll to me.

You have to keep in mind that pedigreed cats only make up approximately 3% of owned cats. Also all coat types and colors can be found in the domestic population.
post #12 of 25
I remember recently hearing that a Ragdoll and Cornish Rex are both expected to have the same profile. Quite suprising. . . but do you have a profile shot of him?
post #13 of 25
Ragdolls have a "roman" nose???? will have to look up the standard


hmm - beg to differ on you on the profile of the two breeds - they are not the same


Ragdoll - Muzzle is round, medium in length, with well-developed chin. Nose is to have a gentle break between the eyes.

C. Rex - The Cornish Rex has a Roman profile comprised of a gentle convex curve from the tip of the nose to the top of the head with a smooth mild dip just below the eyes and above the high prominent nose bridge.
post #14 of 25
I would say, he looks more like a Ragdoll than a Himalyan.
Because he has a longer nose.
But my guess would be he is a Himalyan mix, because Ragdolls are not as common as Himalyans.
What did his littermate look like?
He of course is gorgeous.
post #15 of 25
Don't bet on it - there are a lot of byb Ragdoll people out there now cause its more of a popular breed. Same with the Bengals - far too many byb's jumping on the bandwagon - and not for the betterment of the breed!
post #16 of 25
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Originally Posted by jenniferd View Post
I would say, he looks more like a Ragdoll than a Himalyan.
Because he has a longer nose.
But my guess would be he is a Himalyan mix, because Ragdolls are not as common as Himalyans.
What did his littermate look like?
He of course is gorgeous.
He looks like a raggie or mix to me, the eyes, and nose as well as the ears look it to me, any way, more so then a himi. I love that little face! What a cutie!
Ragdolls have become VERY popular.

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Originally Posted by GoldenKitty45 View Post
Don't bet on it - there are a lot of byb Ragdoll people out there now cause its more of a popular breed. Same with the Bengals - far too many byb's jumping on the bandwagon - and not for the betterment of the breed!

Ain't that the truth! There are so many more BYB's of ragdolls now (and any other breed for that matter!)
post #17 of 25
shhhhhhhhhh the oci's don't have that problem...thank God
post #18 of 25
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Originally Posted by GoldenKitty45 View Post
Ragdolls have a "roman" nose???? will have to look up the standard


hmm - beg to differ on you on the profile of the two breeds - they are not the same


Ragdoll - Muzzle is round, medium in length, with well-developed chin. Nose is to have a gentle break between the eyes.

C. Rex - The Cornish Rex has a Roman profile comprised of a gentle convex curve from the tip of the nose to the top of the head with a smooth mild dip just below the eyes and above the high prominent nose bridge.
Sorry to do my usual and take the thread a bit off topic, if it was an Olympic sport we'd be in with a chance of some medals - You're talking about the American Cornish Rex - the European does not have a convex profile at all but a straight one. They are to all intents and purposes different breeds now. Our CRexes look nothing like yours

EDIT: "Head:
Medium wedge with high cheek bones. Head length about one third greater than the maximum width, narrowing to a rounded muzzle and strong chin. In profile a flat skull curving gently at the brow and continuing in a straight line to the tip of the nose"

"In Europe the Rex cats have a straight profile and in the USA they prefer a more extreme type with a Latin profile."

Editing again (one day I'll manage to do a whole post in one go ) if you go to this link here this is one of the leading Rex breeders in the UK - scroll down to the 3rd set of photos down (seal point & white Cornish girl) to see a good UK Cornish Rex profile, this girl is doing well in the showring at the moment. There are some Devons on the page too, but if you compare the Cornish that is a good look in the UK showring, but quite different to the US look If I look at Radar I can see definite CRex head and ear conformation, only very slightly muted by his moggy half, whereas to those in the US I am sure he looks nothing like what you'd expect a CRex cross to be
post #19 of 25
I agree. I think he's a birman.
post #20 of 25
I personally like the "original" cornish rexes - Spooky was closer to the original - larger then almost every C rex being shown but in proportion. He had a dense coat and a good head.

Today's CRexes (especially in CFA) are too small and extreme for my taste
post #21 of 25
Now I do like both types, the US/CFA type is probably a bit too extreme to catch on over here right now, ours do have a more moderate look which I think is more 'user-friendly' to people not involved in the cat fancy who are looking for a pet. But having said that I do think the CFA type is a very attractive and unusual looking cat in its own right - but really very different to ours!

Breeders here do have difficulty keeping up good breeding programmes just because it can be difficult to home a curly cat, they are not everyone's cup of tea, and Devons are more widely known - so most people looking for a curly cat would think of a Devon first. There isn't much of a pet market for Cornish. The black & white kitten on the link I posted was at the Supreme (as an exhibit not a competitor) and I think everyone gravitated to that end of the hall to have a look, she was so sweet and not at all phased by the attention, so I really hope that a bit more interest in the breed has been stirred up as a result. I wanted to slip that little kitten in my pocket and take her home with me so much it hurt - and I am sure I was by no means the only one who went away longing for a curly cat that day
post #22 of 25
You won't regret either rex if you get a "pure" one But I'm a little surprised at UK's reaction in liking Devons more. The Cornish was discovered in 1950 - the Devon in 1960 - so the Cornies were around a lot longer.

Personally I like the racy bodies on the cornies. And most of the devons I saw had coat problems.
post #23 of 25
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Originally Posted by GoldenKitty45 View Post
You won't regret either rex if you get a "pure" one But I'm a little surprised at UK's reaction in liking Devons more. The Cornish was discovered in 1950 - the Devon in 1960 - so the Cornies were around a lot longer.

Personally I like the racy bodies on the cornies. And most of the devons I saw had coat problems.
Yep I've seen a lot of Devons with poor coats, especially around the throat and belly areas. The history of the Cornish is alas patchy here, despite the fact that the breed originated in the UK - the early UK breeding programme was abandoned (nothing to do with problems in the cats though, they seem to be a pretty robust breed) and has since been reintroduced using imported lines, fortunately allowed by earlier exports of breeding cats. Which is why outcrossing to certain breeds is not only allowed here, but encouraged - the genepool is that small. There have been a few studs imported in the last few years as it's now possible to do it without quarantine for 6 months so is easier and far far less expensive to do so (quarantine regulations were for decades a restrictive influence on breeding programmes of any breed or species here), but even up until fairly recently some breeders were still outcrossing to DSH as far as I know. But go to most mid sized cat shows here (at least in the south) and you'll see 1 Cornish if you're lucky although I have been to shows where they haven't been represented at all, Devons have a far better turn out and you're far more likely to come across a Devon pet owner than a Cornish.

We're at our cat limit at the moment, but if I can ever get another addition to the family it will almost certainly be a purebred Cornish, I knew that before I saw the wee kitten at the show anyway
post #24 of 25
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I agree. I think he's a birman.
Birmans have white feet (like a mitted ragdoll without a white chin though)


I guess I am off topic too, but I like the "original" CR's too! Devons are ok, I mean, I wouldn't turn down either of them if some one was to give me one But I WILL have a cornie some day, soon I hope!
post #25 of 25
Let me know when you are ready - will give you some breeder recommendations if you tell me which state you are in
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