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post #1 of 25
Thread Starter 
ugggh I hate myself, I was cleaning up and accidentally knocked my siamese fighter fish vase on the ground and he fell out!! i got him back in right away but i don't know if he'll live or not, he's swimming around now but still......
Poor little steve.
post #2 of 25
If he's swimming around fine I wouldn't worry abnout him. I have one too and he can't be hurt by anything (literally anything)! They're really hardy creatures.
post #3 of 25
He should be fine if he's swimming, but keep an eye on him . Infections could manifest after a few days because his slime coat has been disturbed. Put a towel over his tank to reduce stress and keep him calm. Good luck with little Steve
post #4 of 25
I agree. He should be fine. Keep us updated.

I also have a "Siamese Fighting Fish" (Betta splendens). He was in a 5 gallon filtered aquarium in my kitchen, but I had to move him to a 2.5 gallon, which is also in my kitchen.
post #5 of 25
I had a pink betta the would jump out of the hole in the top of the 1.5 gallon aquarium he was in. Almost every morning I would find him on the kitchen counter. I would toss him back in the tank and he would be fine. He finally stopped doing it after awhile. I am surprised he never got eaten by a cat.
post #6 of 25
add some aquarium salt ... add extra slime coat stuff and you should be fine ...
post #7 of 25
I would also suggust doing several partial water changes over the next few days, as fresh water will help him fight off any infections. If he does start getting red/puffy areas on his fins or tail, you can check out mardel's line of fish meds...maroxy is their anti-fungal med and maracyn I and II (II is usually a better bet) are good antibiotics.

I wouldn't suggust adding salt because some fish don't take well to a sudden change in salinity (and some fish, i.e. loaches are extremely sensitive to it). A.P. bettafix is also supposedly good stuff: http://www.bigalsonline.com/BigAlsUS...fixremedy114oz But I haven't used it. Do NOT use AP Melafix on bettas, they are sensitive to the tea tree oil in it.

You might also want to include an airstone in his bowl, although they can breath from the surface, water movement IMO is always a good thing.

HTH,
Art (can you tell that I used to mod on an aquaria forum? )
post #8 of 25
Thread Starter 
Well he seems fine! No swelling, no slime (yet) his eyes are ok and he is still playing with kitty everytime she goes to drink out of his tank! So I think he'll be ok. Keeping an eye on him though and I've done little bits of water changes!

Thanks guys, Cat people are way to helpful!
post #9 of 25
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Originally Posted by artgecko View Post
I wouldn't suggust adding salt because some fish don't take well to a sudden change in salinity (and some fish, i.e. loaches are extremely sensitive to it). A.P. bettafix is also supposedly good stuff: http://www.bigalsonline.com/BigAlsUS...fixremedy114oz But I haven't used it. Do NOT use AP Melafix on bettas, they are sensitive to the tea tree oil in it.

HTH,
Art (can you tell that I used to mod on an aquaria forum? )
Some fish are sensitive because they are scaleless. You could add aquarium salt disolved in a seperate container to let it disolve, and then add it a little over a period of time. Melafix has been known to permanently damage the finnage of bettas.

I am a mod on 3 different fish forums.
post #10 of 25
That's great! The water changes should help reduce the chance of him developing an infection. Keep us posted!

AnneRice-which forums? I was a mod on fishgeeks up until recently (unfortunately a sloooow internet connection forced me to resign. Also, fyi, corydoras cats are extremely sensitive and they do have scales, so really depends on the particular species, but yes, all scaleless fish are more sensitive to any type of meds and salt.

Art
post #11 of 25
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Originally Posted by artgecko View Post
That's great! The water changes should help reduce the chance of him developing an infection. Keep us posted!

AnneRice-which forums? I was a mod on fishgeeks up until recently (unfortunately a sloooow internet connection forced me to resign. Also, fyi, corydoras cats are extremely sensitive and they do have scales, so really depends on the particular species, but yes, all scaleless fish are more sensitive to any type of meds and salt.

Art
I am a mod on www.topicaltropicalfishforum.forumu.org (local forum), www.uniquebettas.com, and www.fishfreakscichlids.com (run by a local cichlid guy; I mod the betta section). I was alaos a mod on a betta breeding forum last year, but it has since closed. I am also a member of the Omaha Marine Society. As far as I know, I am the only member without a marine tank. lol That was sold due to divorce. lol Any who...I am also a member of a whole lotta fish, shrimp, marine, planted tank, and rat forums. Where ever you see "AnneRiceBowl", that's me.
post #12 of 25
off topic... Not a MOD for fish just a hobbiest who listens... I dont salt any tank with a pleco or a cory thou two of my mentors do but temp and tank size are BIG considerations///

How is the fishy
post #13 of 25
Keep his water clean. How big of a vase is he in? Under one gallons are unacceptable. Melafix and Bettafix had the same ingredients; only, melafix is far stronger, so you just have to add less of a dose, but I don't really like using either.
post #14 of 25
Poor Steve! Sending him lots of good vibes {{{ }}}
post #15 of 25
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Keep his water clean. How big of a vase is he in? Under one gallons are unacceptable. Melafix and Bettafix had the same ingredients; only, melafix is far stronger, so you just have to add less of a dose, but I don't really like using either.
NO they arent one is anti bacterial and the other is anti fungal Melafix is antibacterial via tea tree oil .... Pimafix is antifungal from a leaf
post #16 of 25
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NO they arent one is anti bacterial and the other is anti fungal Melafix is antibacterial via tea tree oil .... Pimafix is antifungal from a leaf
No, K.J. was right; MelaFix and -BettaFix- are the same. You must have thought they said "PimaFix", when really, they said "BettaFix". And I wouldn't use either Mela- or BettaFix, either. The tea tree oil in both products have been said to coat the gills of bettas and make it harder for them to breathe.

Hi, AnneRiceBowl. *waves* I'm from UB, too.

And I agree with everyone else; as long as he seems fine, with no infection, and as long as he gets good, regular water changes, he should be fine.
post #17 of 25
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Originally Posted by Katzyn View Post
No, K.J. was right; MelaFix and -BettaFix- are the same. You must have thought they said "PimaFix", when really, they said "BettaFix". And I wouldn't use either Mela- or BettaFix, either. The tea tree oil in both products have been said to coat the gills of bettas and make it harder for them to breathe.

Hi, AnneRiceBowl. *waves* I'm from UB, too.

And I agree with everyone else; as long as he seems fine, with no infection, and as long as he gets good, regular water changes, he should be fine.
OPPPSSS but for those who dont know

Ingrediants
pimafix pimenta racenosa
http://www.killerplants.com/plant-of...k/20070122.asp

ie bay leaf


melafix meleluca ( ie tea tree oil)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melaleuca

VERY different plants

OPPP Yes betta is the same as mela ...

Bettafix I have only seen online ...lol.. not in my area ...

I have used melafix but someone told me to half dose the directions long ago
post #18 of 25
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Hi, AnneRiceBowl. *waves* I'm from UB, too.
LOL Hey Kat!! Followin' me, ehhhhhh?
post #19 of 25
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Originally Posted by AnneRiceBowl View Post
LOL Hey Kat!! Followin' me, ehhhhhh?
Heh, no, no, my dear; I think it is -you- who is following -meeeeee-....=D

I was here first, so, XP

Yeah, the BettaFix is just a smaller dose of the MelaFix. =/ But a lot of people of the betta forum that Anne and I go to don't like using it, because they have seen nasty side effects of it, such as gill defects, which sometimes lead to death. My own recently deceased betta suffered from the BettaFix I once used. You know how bettas have gill beards that come out when they flare at each other (or themselves in a mirror =P)? Well, my betta's beard wouldn't come out completely. Half of it remained folded in under his gills, while the other half came out normally. Made him look halarious, and not threatening at all. He eventually somewhat recovered, but his gill beard was neevr returned to normal after I used that stuff.
post #20 of 25
LOL I realized that after I made my post...whoops.
post #21 of 25
I pray it's not that vase with the plant on top, the care sheet on there is so wrong about betta care.

Just in case look here for care on your betta. http://www.bettatalk.com/
post #22 of 25
Thread Starter 
ummmmm nope, just a regular old vase with a plant I got at the aquarium store. They said it would be fine with the betta, so far so good, although he has seemed to eat most of it?



That's what the set up looks like. I think he has lots of room and it's been 4 months since the 'falling ordeal' and no issues. I think i'm int he clear Might need a new plant soon though!
post #23 of 25
Unfortunetly no cover is bad, bettas can jump out of the water, and your cat can just swipe its paw in and nab the fish.

Bettas dont eat plants they eat mosquito larvae (bloodworms), brine shrimp, and those betta pellets.
post #24 of 25
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Originally Posted by keith p View Post
Unfortunetly no cover is bad, bettas can jump out of the water, and your cat can just swipe its paw in and nab the fish.

Bettas dont eat plants they eat mosquito larvae (bloodworms), brine shrimp, and those betta pellets.
Bettas do eat plants thou they are a carnivorous fish....
post #25 of 25
Just to back up a comment I made about bettas jumping out of the water, I had a betta and it was my first, I was told just put the fish in a bowl with gravel and some pellets and thats all, and that was from a pet store worker who I thought I could trust. I was young at the time and it was my first betta and this was when they first became popular in the early 90's.

Then one day the uncovered fish leaped out of the bowl onto the floor, if I hadn't found it it would have surely died.

After that I did some research and found out that what the pet store says about bettas (at least by me) was WAY off and they knew next to nothing about betta care. They mentioned nothing about PH,diet,illness, or just basic care like a tiny bowl is NOT good for a betta. Heck, they didnt even say bettas need to breath air. If you buy one at a store most of them are sick and in only a few inches of dirty,smelly water. They literally toss away dead bettas each day!

It may seem like i'm trying to find fault, but many betta owners never really have bettas for long because they are greatly mis-informed about their care.

So if by posting this information, if I helped even one betta, then it was worth it.

I had one male live 6 years which is quite long for them.
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