Urgent :: Pet Food Recall... Urgent!!! - TOXIN FOUND

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Originally Posted by sharky

not unless you have non absorbing litter and a drip tray ... maybe the vet will make a housecall??
Hmmm It won't hurt to ask! I know they do housecalls mainly to put cats to sleep (that's what I did with Sunniday -RB) but not sure if they'll do that for other reasons but I'll ask just to see... Thanks.. Keeping fingers crossed that my cats aren't affected by this!!

Guess they'll have to live on dry food and fancy feast (wet) for now...


Scares me to think they may be affected by this..
They're my babies! I WISH vet's open today so I could call and talk this out with my vet...
 

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Originally Posted by Nellers

Mine are sharing a box but the amount since yesterday of pee clumps appears normal for them. This is affecting so many pet owners, I really hope there will be some legal action placed against the manufacturers for this!!
I agree!! All the mental and emotional trauma from this sucks! PLUS having to have cats be tested for this..
I take my cats to the vet for updated shots, etc but due to this STUPID company who screwed up on products, we'll have to put our cats thru the trauma of goin to the vet and being tested for this!
Then worry about if this affects their lifespan and quality of life!


I have a strong feeling that I will have to take all my cats to the vet but am trying to think positive.....
 

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Another symptom that is important ....
dilute urine...
a larger than normal pee ball in clumping litter is one way to tell about that.

I urge all members who might have been affected by this recall to read all posts in this thread and the thread main Lounge.

Also, I am hoping that someone will start a whole web site about this unnecessary tragedy. We must find way to join together to fight for change in the pet food industry, so this never happens again.
If anyone hear of one....
please post it.

I suspect that the pet food industry lobby is very powerful.


I am still awaiting the lab results for Dexter & Sadie.
 

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Because of Cleo's renal failure, all three of my girls eat Purina NF canned food during the day. In the evening, they all split a Fancy Feast Elegant Medley (Cleo's portion gets a liberal amount of phosphorus binder added.) It appears that I have managed to be spared the disaster (this time.)

It terrifies me to think that cats who already have renal failure have been exposed to this food. On my CRF support site, many many people feed the canned or pouched foods with gravy because that is what many renal failure kitties prefer. This is a complete disaster. My prayers are with everyone affected by this food recall.


Pookie & the girls
 

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stoli has eaten 3 pouches of this nutro stuff and it was just this week and the dates and products upc's don't match. . . .is this enough to lose sleep over. . .right now?
 

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Originally Posted by Renovia

stoli has eaten 3 pouches of this nutro stuff and it was just this week and the dates and products upc's don't match. . . .is this enough to lose sleep over. . .right now?
I sure hope not.


So far this has spread to Canada, North America, Mexico and a member just reported that recalled Nutro pouches were discovered still on shelves in Germany.
 

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I must point out..."tainted" food can happen to commercial dry food, commercial wet food, premade raw, or homemade raw. It can happen to any food. It does us no good to get mad at the company, focus on your kids & finding them a new food right now. IMO, we will never know the entire story.


That said, man, I am so peeved right now!!! How the heck am I gonna find food to feed Twitch & Lily? It has to be chunks in gravy....I know some others here have kitties addicted to Nutro pouches/cans. The other thing I'm really worried about is Twitch has been peeing larger clumps in the box...
 

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Originally Posted by Python

As far as I know, things that cause kidney failure (in humans but would probably have the same effect in animals) three spring to mind immediately:

E-coli
Possibly Salmonella

and a chemical:

Antifreeze

Someone had a very good point in an earlier post and that is most cats eventually die of kidney failure. We have to start asking why is the reason for that. I don't believe it's entirely down to old age. I do believe there is a strong link to what we are feeding them in the form of ready prepared food and the artificial this, that and the next thing that goes into the production of these foods, not to mention things that cats in the wild would never eat - e.g. wheat gluten, peas, carrots etc.
One theory is indeed that it is the food...the feeding of predominantly dry cat food and food that has grains and carbs in it. Cats are obligate carnivores, they need meat or fish based protein, not protein from wheat or corn gluten.

Folks...greatest site I know re kidney failure is www.felinecrf.org. Muscle weakness, lethargy, loss of appetite, foamy white vomit, frequent licking of the lips (a sign of nausea...cats with kidney failure have increased stomach acid and thus nausea), increased urination - frequency and volume..these can all be signs.
 

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Originally Posted by Nellers

Doesn't this whole mess make you praise dry food?
Absolutely not...it's more a recommendation for those who feed homecooked or raw frankly.
 

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Originally Posted by icklemiss21

Are they showing any abnormal symptoms?

according to the recall, the main symptoms are loss of appetite, lethargy, diluted urine and vomiting
To be honest- this is difficult for me to determine at this time.. I got them some pet grass recently so I have been finding vomit (which is expected with pet grass which cleans out their tummies). They don't seem letharic and their appetites seems normal..

I am still trying to figure out about urine. I'll talk with my vet tmr and see what he says. As of now, I am keeping a close eye on them (more than usual)...
 

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Originally Posted by white cat lover

I must point out..."tainted" food can happen to commercial dry food, commercial wet food, premade raw, or homemade raw. It can happen to any food. It does us no good to get mad at the company, focus on your kids & finding them a new food right now. IMO, we will never know the entire story.
You have a point but I think that most of us, if not all, did not know that pet food supplied to North American consumers, came from one central company...
Menu Foods.

Until Friday night when the recall was announced I thought that the food my kitties ate was manufactured at plants owned by Nutro.
I was led to believe that because of Nutro's advertising and innuendo.
The pet food industry lobby spends millions to help pet food companies distort what they are doing.

The labs my kitties had yesterday not only caused them pain, trauma and suffering,they cost me $400 plus emotional trauma.
If either one of my precious babies had been injured by the greed of Nutro...
I will be mad.


Of course I am focusing on finding a new source for their food but until there is truth in advertising forced on Pet Food companies....
It will be difficult to know what I am buying.

Dexter & Sadie are really missing their chunks and gravy.
I wish that was our only problem with this.

Still waiting for the lab report.
 

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Originally Posted by Pat & Alix

Absolutely not...it's more a recommendation for those who feed homecooked or raw frankly.
That's another thing I wanted to explore- I have NEVER given my cats human food and never given them homecooked/raw chicken, etc... I've looked at some receipes for this for cats but will my cats eat them??? Would it be worthwhile trying??
 

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Originally Posted by Pamela

I'm sooo scared! I just checked and all my nutro wet pouches are included in the recall!! I'll call my vet tmr to see what should be done but i have some questions-

Someone said to look for diluted urine- what exactly does that mean????


Jeez- Nutro is a pretty expensive product and I bought it thinking it's one of the best products to give to my cats!
I apologize if I end up only repeating a previous reply, there are 3 pages of messages since I went to bed at 1 am! Dilute urine means if you could see it, you'd notice it having an appearance like water, not the usual color, and it may not have as strong an odor. You'd also see an increased volume..they will seem to be peeing huge amounts at a time.
 

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Originally Posted by xocats

The labs my kitties had yesterday not only caused them pain, trauma and suffering,they cost me $400 plus emotional trauma.
If either one of my precious babies had been injured by the greed of Nutro...
I will be mad.


Of course I am focusing on finding a new source for their food but until there is truth in advertising forced on Pet Food companies....
It will be difficult to know what I am buying.

Dexter & Sadie are really missing their chunks and gravy.
I wish that was our only problem with this.

Still waiting for the lab report.
I know how you feel!! I really don't want to take my cats to the vet but I think I will have to if my vet refuses to come to my home or if I can't bring urine samples in to be tested. If that's how much it cost to have TWO cats tested, imagine the cost of having all SIX cats be tested plus all the trauma they and I will go through!!


I am not looking forward to tonight when I feed them wet food cuz they will expect some nutro and I will only give them Fancy Feast wet food which some does not like but that's the only thing I feel safe giving at this time!

I hope the tests for Dexter & Sadie turns out good and that they aren't affected by this! Keep us informed about that ok?
 

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Originally Posted by Pat & Alix

I apologize if I end up only repeating a previous reply, there are 3 pages of messages since I went to bed at 1 am! Dilute urine means if you could see it, you'd notice it having an appearance like water, not the usual color, and it may not have as strong an odor. You'd also see an increased volume..they will seem to be peeing huge amounts at a time.
Oh that helps!! So far the only thing I had heard about this was that there'd be bigger clumps of urine... SO I need to look for urine that appears like water and less odor along with an increased volume of urine then?

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Originally Posted by Pamela

That's another thing I wanted to explore- I have NEVER given my cats human food and never given them homecooked/raw chicken, etc... I've looked at some receipes for this for cats but will my cats eat them??? Would it be worthwhile trying??
Hah..now you know better than to ask for a guarantee that a cat will eat anything you want them to! Sharky has done homecooked diets, as has DawnofSierra...there are many recipes out there...one great book is by Dr.Strombeck who has recipes in many variations (some are low protein, low phos, some are lower in sodium etc.)

a great overall site on cat nutrition (even though it's author does raw for those NOT interested in doing raw I don't want you to be surprised..still a site to go to for the discussion on diabetes, ibd, crf and diet) is by a vet and is www.catinfo.org, it is kept upated and is an excellent site. She gives her recipe for feeding raw and much more re raw.

ps there are great *small* companies out there doing raw - frozen or dehydrated. They include Aunt Jenies - Honest Kitchen, and Raw Advantage out of WA state which has their OWN facility for production and packaging.

Frankly I am even more interested now in products such as the Trout Pate by IcelandPet, and food from ZiwiPeak.
 

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Pamela, I know the feeling. I am looking at 5 cats to be tested. I've got other vet expenses right now & I just don't know that I can ever afford complete blood work on them all right now.
I'm going to have to settle for urine samples. It irritates me that this is costing me my bonus paycheck(which was paying for a premium membership to TCS) for something that should have been prevented in the first place.
 

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Originally Posted by Pamela

I know how you feel!! I really don't want to take my cats to the vet but I think I will have to if my vet refuses to come to my home or if I can't bring urine samples in to be tested. If that's how much it cost to have TWO cats tested, imagine the cost of having all SIX cats be tested plus all the trauma they and I will go through!!
We live in an area of California where vet cost are really high.
I hope that in your area...
they a lower.
If you need to take your kitties in to be tested,
try talking to your vet's office manager before you make your appointment.
Tell her your kitties need the tests because of the recall.
Maybe they will give you a group discount.
It can't hurt to ask.

My vet told me that unless cats or dogs were showing symptoms, they did not need to be tested at this time.

Sadie's larger pee ball in her clumping litter was the deciding factor for me.
That might mean that her urine is diluted so she is putting out a larger volume.
Plus she has vomited a few times recently.
I had Dexter tested to be safe.

I am hoping that Sadie's larger urine volume is because we had a spell of hot weather last week so she was drinking more water, and the vomiting is due to her shedding more fur and she got some stuck in her throat.
There was only one way to be sure....
Labs

Thanks for your support...
I hope that your kitties are OK.
 
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