Originally Posted by GoldenKitty45
A suggestion to your website page - try to find some of the Singa cats from the 40-70's - she had some from the 50's/60's there were very modern and sleek and excellant point color!
Singa cats (50's) I know were sleek and refined. I saw the pics and read the history of her cattery (Jean Singer) in one of the old CFA yearbooks. You want to see some breathtaking seal points (10 yrs old and pure white bodies) - those are out of Singa cats.
I am familiar with Jeanne Singer. She bought her first registered Siamese in 1952. Her fist breeding cat was Astra's Margie born 10/14/1952. A Seal Point female listed in CFA Volume 79. She was sired by Dbl. Ch. Morris Lindex (pictured on my "post 1940's" page under ~1951~
Astra's Margie produced Singa Lindette (mentioned further below)
Thank you for your suggestion for my website. Going into the 70's is not in line with my site. Doing historical work is very, very time consuming and expensive. Maybe in the future if I purchase more server space and have more time. Right now I have a ton of stuff I am going through that is from the earlier years.
The CFA yearbook articles about cats of that time says alot to me:
|SIAMESE STANDARD - A RETROSPECTIVE By Betty White "It all began with the birth of a watershed seal point male, a truly beautiful cat who was a quantum leap in type. I mean, of course, Fan-T-Cee’s Tee Cee. Too many breeders were of the mind that if a little Tee Cee was good, then a lot of Tee Cee had to be better. The skull became elongated, the wedge exceedingly narrow, and in the case of one CFA GC (Grand Champion) male that I saw, the cat did not (or could not) close his mouth."
Enter the era of the "head hunters" and with a vengeance, the first of the three phenomena to threaten the Siamese."
Jeanne Singer also has a 1979 yearbook article in which she says:
|Siamese Breeding - The Long View
by Jeanne Singer:
"There was also at this time a genetic metabolic problem. Some show Siamese didn't "assimilate food properly and have poor muscle-tone with a "mushy" feel."
It was so bad that any Siamese with a soft feel was eliminated from showing by the judges. More from Siamese Breeding - The Long View by Jeanne Singer
|" This genetic malady, born in America, has spread because some cats from the lines carrying it also have very long heads. Had this mutation struck a family of "apple-heads", it would have quickly died out long ago. Irresponsible breeders, although aware of its existence in a bloodline, will take a chance, hoping to get that one big show-stopper. Looking for one "super winner" at the expense of the other kittens.
Unfortunately, instead of sticking with healthy lines, some will cross these with the problem ones, thus committing a compound felony to perpetuate the weakness, which is sometimes masked by the healthy lines; and to contaminate the previously healthy strain for the future. For even seemingly healthy offspring can mask walking time bombs. It requires only one parent as a carrier to produce kittens with this disease.
All the recent hoopla and emphasis in the Siamese standard and Siamese judging about good muscle tone and hard bodies and the penalizing of mushy bodies is an attempt to eliminate this problem via the show ring.
Jeanne Singer also said the way she kept those nice white bodies was to breed back to her original clear coated cats.
|Siamese Breeding - The Long View
by Jeanne Singer "The present Singa cats are all line-bred descendants from various combinations of these few original cats. For example, Singa Lindette appears up to 15 times in the extended pedigrees of many winning Singa cats today."
Ack, I realized on the way to my daughters dance class that I made a silly mistake I had the 1979 publication date of the article in my head when I should have been thinking of the length of a breeding queens career. I would have to purchase a reverse pedigree to see all the offspring of Lindette and determine when she stopped being used for breeding. That would be very expensive, so I will use an average of 5 years. The veterinary recommended length.
I meant to say: Singa Lindette was born 5/30/1954. I'm not a geneticist or mathematician so I'm not going to calculate the coefficient to show the degree in inbreeding. Even a layperson can see in a 5 year breeding career 15 is a a high number. 15 divided by 5 is 3 times a breeding year, the "doubling" of Lindette's genes.
We breed companion animals. I choose my Old Style Siamese for how little "Show Siamese" is in their lines and I look for the least amount of inbreeding/line breeding possible. I breed outcrosses. The goal of my cattery is to do no harm and preserve these Old Style lines. Health, personality and then appearance. A flashy cat without the first two makes for a sad companion.
Sorry for the long post but Siamese are my passion.
Oh and this is one of the kittens I produced. She has a lovely white coat too. http://www.blackandtansiamese.com/im...s/progeny1.jpg
I have a "past kittens" and a "where are they now" page on my main site.
***Hiding soapbox in back of closet***