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chin bacteria and food allergies.

post #1 of 21
Thread Starter 
Poor little Monte has his little chin bacteria back, but his ears are looking fab. So i'm thinking that I just didn't take care of his chin right the first time. he has had ear problems forever, since he was a kitten. The dermatologist changed his food for 6 weeks and now she said I could go back to his other food which he didn't eat and so I finally found a food that he likes. He got a spot on his chin that was very itchy and the derm. said there was a lot of bacteria presnet, she was still thinking it was a food allergy. I was suppose to treat it twice a day for a week and then once a day for the second week. I think I was a little slacky. So now he has a bump and he is scratching like crazy. I shouldn't have been so lazy. Now i have to start over with him, darn it. Does anyone have a cat or cats with allergies, food or environmental?
post #2 of 21
My Pinky gets a fat lip from plastic bowls. He tolerates some of the water fountains but only if I pull them apart and really disinfect them on a regular basis.

What types of bowls are you using with Monte and how often do you clean them? Many cats have difficulties with plastic bowls. Maybe this is adding to his problem?
post #3 of 21
Ceramic bowls might help as they do not hold germs as well as plastic ones I think...Good luck with your baby
post #4 of 21
Stainless steel dishes likely would be best ...


what food are you feeding??? what food did the dermetologist give you???
post #5 of 21
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Originally Posted by Momofmany View Post
My Pinky gets a fat lip from plastic bowls. He tolerates some of the water fountains but only if I pull them apart and really disinfect them on a regular basis.

What types of bowls are you using with Monte and how often do you clean them? Many cats have difficulties with plastic bowls. Maybe this is adding to his problem?
Huh! Never thought about that. I do use plastic bowls and I probably don't clean them as much as I should. Water I clean more than the food. I will definitely change his dishes. Why do you think that plastic bothers them? Just the bacteria, ya think? Monte's got a bump on his chin that I was looking at today and it looks just like when we went to the dermatologist only there wasn't a bump last time. But the brown flaky stuff is the same. Wow, thanks for the advice, I love this forum!!! Thanks a lot.
post #6 of 21
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Stainless steel dishes likely would be best ...


what food are you feeding??? what food did the dermetologist give you???

He was getting Royal Canine Rabbit and green pea formula, now he's on natural balance (well I mix the two together with a little warm water to soften it up) He get's just the regular natural balance. He seems to like the mixture. Do you think it may have anything to do with putting warm water on it? Then it sits in his bowl, mabye I shouldn't do that, ahhhh.

Thanks for the help!
post #7 of 21
Definitely stop using all plastic bowls right away. Plastic is a known cause of feline acne and it almost always presents itself right on the chin.

I recommend stainless steel (like Sharky mentioned) or glass. Glazed ceramic is ok too. Make sure you wash the bowls daily as well.

You should see a positive response within a week of switching to a non-plastic bowl for feeding and watering.
post #8 of 21
Yup - plastic bowls breed bacteria that land on their chins (and in the case of my Pinky, his lower lip). That is the first thing you should correct before you switch food brands.

And don't worry - most people don't realize that until they land on this site and get educated by all the smart people out there. I converted to glazed ceramic and stainless bowls after I found this site.
post #9 of 21
Thread Starter 
Thanks everyone, I will definitely switch bowls. Chin acne, who would have thought. I said it once and I'll say it again, I love this forum (so does Monte, he'll be happy when he gets new bowls.)

Thanks again sooooo much.
Jenny
post #10 of 21
I got about 8 stainless bowls because they were relatively inexpensive. None is ever used twice before being cleaned. I put the dirty ones in the dishwasher to clean them really well.
post #11 of 21
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Originally Posted by Kai Bengals View Post
Definitely stop using all plastic bowls right away. Plastic is a known cause of feline acne and it almost always presents itself right on the chin.

I recommend stainless steel (like Sharky mentioned) or glass. Glazed ceramic is ok too. Make sure you wash the bowls daily as well.

You should see a positive response within a week of switching to a non-plastic bowl for feeding and watering.
i've also found that flatter dishes, like saucers, work better at preventing it than bowls. when i switched from a deep bowl to a flat saucer, Pixel's acne basically disappeared. i usually buy inexpensive ceramic saucers at the dollar store for the cats' dishes.
post #12 of 21
My Damita has food allergies. She had yucky ears, over groomed herself, etc. Never had any chin problems(that I noticed). She is on Natural Balance Venison & Green Pea dry & canned. That is their allergy formual. So far, she seems to be doing good on it.
post #13 of 21
and get rid of a plastic mat under the food dish. abi likes to take her food from the dish to the floor and the plastic mat was contributing. now I just wash the floor there daily and her chin is getting better.
post #14 of 21
I switched from plastic to stainless steel, and my poor babies STILL have the brown flakeys on their chins, I am stumped...

Sorry to hijack, but is there anything specificly (sp?) made for it? Like a cream? I have tried washing it off with a warm wet cloth, but between squirming cats and having them puch the rag away with their paw, I finaly wrapped them in the towle and it still wouldn't come off =/
post #15 of 21
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Originally Posted by white cat lover View Post
My Damita has food allergies. She had yucky ears, over groomed herself, etc. Never had any chin problems(that I noticed). She is on Natural Balance Venison & Green Pea dry & canned. That is their allergy formual. So far, she seems to be doing good on it.

That's exactly what my Monte had, yucky ears. Although, he really wasn't over grooming himself but after the rabbit and green pea from the dermatologist, I put him on Natural Balance, just the regular, but if his ears start to get bad again then I'll switch him to the venison. He doesn't much care for the wet venison. His ears are so good now I don't want to keep him on the regular food but the dermatologist suggested it to see if it really is a food allergy. As far as his chin is concerned I feel sure that it's his plastic bowls. I would have never thought of that.
post #16 of 21
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Originally Posted by KatKisses View Post
I switched from plastic to stainless steel, and my poor babies STILL have the brown flakeys on their chins, I am stumped...

Sorry to hijack, but is there anything specificly (sp?) made for it? Like a cream? I have tried washing it off with a warm wet cloth, but between squirming cats and having them puch the rag away with their paw, I finaly wrapped them in the towle and it still wouldn't come off =/
The dermatologist gave me tresaderm to put on it and it worked the first time, now I've got to hit it again for it came back, i'm sure because of the bowls.
post #17 of 21
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Originally Posted by KatKisses View Post
I switched from plastic to stainless steel, and my poor babies STILL have the brown flakeys on their chins, I am stumped...

Sorry to hijack, but is there anything specificly (sp?) made for it? Like a cream? I have tried washing it off with a warm wet cloth, but between squirming cats and having them puch the rag away with their paw, I finaly wrapped them in the towle and it still wouldn't come off =/
My Ophelia had chin acne...eating from stainless steel bowls on the linoleum floor. Never occred to me that her plastic ID tag was picking up "junk" & giving her acne! If you have plastic ID tags on your kits, then that could be a possibility.
post #18 of 21
Also, I believe someone mentioned a plastic mat that the dishes were sitting on was causing her kitty a problem.
post #19 of 21
thanks for mentioning the collar maybe contributing I am removing her collar for a week to see if that speeds the healing. thanks again.
post #20 of 21
Gizmo had chin acne with ceramic bowls. I now use stainless steel ones that are washed every day. She has a carpet under her dishes and that seems to prevent the chin acne.
post #21 of 21
=/ I use stainless steel bowls, wash them every day too... I have one stainless steel bowl for dry food, one for water, one for wet, and one more that is ceramic that I also use for water. They get washed and refilled everyday.

I do have a linolium floor, however, I keep a door mat under the bowls. It's not plastic, but carpet. He does wear a collar during the weekdays 24/7, but the tag is alluminum (sp?).

I dunno, it confusses me, anyone else have ideas? Could his alluminum tag be picking up junk from his wet/dry food? I free feed as well, when the bowl starts getting empty-I fill it up again... Hmmm, I have something similar to this:



But it's much closer to the ground and is shaped like a cat-made out of wood, is wood bad?

And here is the type of bowls I use:

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