Feel very bad for my cousins cats...

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The food thing was when I was over, but the cats arent thin, so mabye it was just that day he didnt feed them enough (I did see a bit of cat kibble in the bowl). He tells me he feeds them catnip, but he does lie sometimes for no reason, so to say their starved, well I would have to say no with that. I didnt see him fill the bowl with catnip, and my aunt did tell him to feed the cat, so mabye he did as we were leaving? If he didnt hide the litterbox that would make it better for the cat too, and then he wouldnt yell.

No they dont put food outside for the cat that goes out, but they let it inside each night, so mabye there is a food dish under a table that I dont see. Like I said, their not skinny.

Throwing, he used to throw the old dog... only once he tossed the cat on the couch, but I wouldnt call it a throw (yes my mistake in the first post) , that cat was fine and not hurt at all, it was only a foot or so, he was standing over the couch.

The only thing I found horrible was the way he grabbed the cat, and the fact it's locked in a room thats filthy and urine smell, obviously the cat doesnt go in the litterbox. And I dont think a cat with HIV should be locked in the room all day, give it a bell on the collar, so it can walk around the house, and that way they can make sure it wont get out by hearing the bell. Thats why its in his room,my aunt doesnt want it getting out. But other than that there's not much else to report.

The cats never bled,no bones are broken, they get baths and brushed, and they appear normal weight. I have felt them myself and they go to the vet, and they seem fine, I just dont like the cat locked in the room all day, but then again is it my choice? And mabye he can be more gentle holding the cat, but thats all i can think of.
 

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Originally Posted by keith p

Yes, he was abused at a young age because he was out of control (which is no excuse), and his parents almost got a divorce, and they go to counseling.
I surely hope they have stopped hitting him and I think he needs to go to counseling or maybe a group home..(so he isn't around animals..or he can be taught to be kind to animals
) what do they do when he does this? those poor animals.
atleast you are trying to help him and the animals.
 

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Originally Posted by keith p

He put a snake in his pants,karate chopped a hamsters neck, starved his lizard to death, broke a tank filled with piranhas and watched them die, when he was younger he would punch his dogs stomach, and the dog he had (well the one his family adopted as a stray who on top of this has breast cancer) last year he would suffocate with his hand,throw it across his room, and put it in a tree in a box, then let it plunge to the ground. Needless to say the dog had such bad injuries one after another, his parents put it to sleep.


Now they have 2 cats and another dog. Thw dog is his sisters, so he really doesnt try to hurt it, but the families two cats arent so lucky. They were given to his family by the person from upstairs family, she died and they were her cats, so she gave them to my cousins family. my cousin keeps them locked in his room with the air conditioner on all thr time, and the tv turned really loud! He hides the litterbox so they cant use the box, then yells at them when they pee and poo on the floor. He feeds them a bowl of food in the morning, and the rest of the day he feeds them catnip, I know, bad. Sometimes he throws them too, but usually they are quick enough to get away from him. One of their cats is usually outside most of the time, and doesnt eat much, and the only good thing about it getting out is it doesnt have to go to the bathroom on his floor, and isnt subjected to being locked in a room all its life. Their other cat recently got AIDs, and my cousins mom tells him to keep the cat in his room, because it's too dangerous for it to be outside. Yes, thats true, but she doesnt know the torture it goes through locked in hos room 24/7 It shivers,hardly gets to eat, and never gets to use the littebox. Plus he picks it up by it stomach so it yells in pain, and he holds it harder, he is not afraid of any animal, and he has been bitten and scratched tons of times.

My point, is there any way to get through to him in a way he can understand that he hurts these animals, because he thinks they enjoy what he does to them.
Please read this, Keith. You are trying to rationalize abuse, but you put it down plainly in your original post.
 

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No offense but it seems like you are just making excuses as to why it is really okay. ADHD is no excuse for this. I know you feel bad and want to help otherwise you wouldn't have come on here talking about it. Don't let anything stand in your way, this is important! Think about what is going to happen when this guy is off living on his own? what will he do then? will he take in more animals and harm them? animal abuse often leads to other sorts of abuse and crime, if he himself was already abused as a child then he is at a greater risk. I still think something should be done now before this guy harms an animal even worse or moves on to people or something. If you don't want to do it then we will. The burden wouldn't even be on you and you will be doing the right thing and helping these poor animals, not to mention helping your cousin get some help perhaps or at least be punished for his crimes.
 

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Originally Posted by Jen

No offense but it seems like you are just making excuses as to why it is really okay. ADHD is no excuse for this. I know you feel bad and want to help otherwise you wouldn't have come on here talking about it. Don't let anything stand in your way, this is important! Think about what is going to happen when this guy is off living on his own? what will he do then? will he take in more animals and harm them? animal abuse often leads to other sorts of abuse and crime, if he himself was already abused as a child then he is at a greater risk. I still think something should be done now before this guy harms an animal even worse or moves on to people or something. If you don't want to do it then we will. The burden wouldn't even be on you and you will be doing the right thing and helping these poor animals, not to mention helping your cousin get some help perhaps or at least be punished for his crimes.
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Originally Posted by keith p

I have a picture of the cat with HIV, by looking at it tell me if it's looks hurt/neglected.
It doesn't matter what the animal looks like right at this moment. It is about preventing even more horrible things to happen to the cats who are living with an unstable person who shouldn't own animals. You said all these things happened in the past, it should have been reported then and it wasn't. So do something about it now, don't play down what is really going on here


What still gets me is that they are his parents pets and they know he does this stuff and they are still keeping the pets there.
 

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Originally Posted by Jen

It doesn't matter what the animal looks like right at this moment. It is about preventing even more horrible things to happen to the cats. You said all these things happened in the past, it should have been reported then and it wasn't. So do something about it now, don't play down what is really going on here
please do something about this before it gets worse.
 
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My cousin isnt abused anymore, that stopped a long time ago. I wasnt even supposed to know about that, it's one of those family secrets. Anyway if I left it up to you guys im afraid something would go wrong and this wouldnt just be about the cat anymore if I involved authorities, but also his homelife too, and then they would know it was my family, even if you reported it, my family was the only one who cared what he did in the past with the animals, they would know we had something to do with this.

This is the cat,
 

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IMO if I were you, I'd report him even if he is a relative. He is ABUSING innocent living creatures!!
 
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Please read my 2nd to last post on page 2, then tell me what you see wrong from what I typed. Dont go by the first page because that was from the past, not recent,and mabye I said certain things I shouldnt have.

Read that 2nd page again, and then post what you see wrong. There's a reason i want you to do this.
 

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well the cat doesn't look that bad to me. but I don't know, I still would totally take the blame for reporting this if this was happening in my family.

really though, what are you afraid about if it doesn't just involve the cats anymore? there are some major issues in that family. the kid was abused, someone should be punished for that, the guy abuses animals and should be punished for that, the parents are allowing this to happen (all they have to do is rehome the cats) so they should be punished. Everyone in this family is doing something horribly wrong and they need to be stopped. If I called the police on these people what I would be calling about is the cats. If the authorities find out more things going on then just the cats, then they would be doing thast on their own and honestly, it would be a good thing. Maybe this whole family should be punished and fined or serve time for these crimes.
 

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Originally Posted by keith p

my ADHD cousin throws the family cat.
I am assuming that's what you mean and I wasn't just saying the cat doesn't look good just because of what you said. and please don't think I was trying to offend you..
that was not my intention at all. I am just really concerned for the animals that are in that home.
 
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See now your judging his homelife (not a responce to the post above me), what part of "i wasnt supposed to know half of these things" do you not understand

I wasnt supposed to know he was abused at a young age (by the way they got help for that, and have stopped years ago)
and I wasnt supposed to know he was locked up in an institution (well to get help I mean)
 

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Originally Posted by Miagi's_Mommy

I am assuming that's what you mean and I wasn't just saying the cat doesn't look good just because of what you said. and please don't think I was trying to offend you..
that was not my intention at all. I am just really concerned for the animals that are in that home.
If I offended you, I didn't mean to.
 
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I dont see any way to report about the cat without me being involved. Whether your or I report it, the info being given to the ASPCA is info only MY FAMILY would know about, this is why im reluctant. I wish everyone here could understand this.
 

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Originally Posted by keith p

See now your judging his homelife (not a responce to the post above me), what part of "i wasnt supposed to know half of these things" do you not understand

I wasnt supposed to know he was abused at a young age (by the way they got help for that, and have stopped years ago)
and I wasnt supposed to know he was locked up in an institution (well to get help I mean)
I am not judging anything about his home life, really I am not.
 

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Originally Posted by keith p

See now your judging his homelife (not a responce to the post above me), what part of "i wasnt supposed to know half of these things" do you not understand

I wasnt supposed to know he was abused at a young age (by the way they got help for that, and have stopped years ago)
and I wasnt supposed to know he was locked up in an institution (well to get help I mean)
Then what other things are you worried about the authorities finding out? if these past problems were taken care of then all you have right now is the animal abuse which is a crime and punishable with jail time and fines. You are the one who said "Anyway if I left it up to you guys im afraid something would go wrong and this wouldnt just be about the cat anymore if I involved authorities, but also his homelife too"

what if it was a child he was abusing?
 
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