Hi all, i've been browsing the site for some time and finally had enough head scratching to post..
I've kept my eye on all of Dr. Pierson's pages on cat health, especially after our Kiwi had a UTI episode.. He was pushed onto an all wet Urinary S/O which we took him off of due to his refusal to eat and just switched him to an all wet form of his regular Royal Canin adult instinctive..
We were trying to figure out for some time why he looked like he lost weight coming off of kibble every day with a can of wet every other evening.. And low and behold, didn't realize how bad the kibble was for him, carb wise..
So we started looking around and i have found two different equations on her pages.. and am not sure what i should follow...
As it is, i have a hard time getting him to eat three (3oz) cans a day and when i did the math on what i found on the main page, i got that he should be eating about 2 (3oz) cans of food a day.. his cans having 68calories each... This is what i found on the main page:
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I have never seen a cat develop hepatic lipidosis when consuming at least 15 calories per pound per day. This number is figured on lean body weight, not fat weight.
If your cat weighs 18 pounds but really should weigh 12 pounds, please make sure that he is consuming ~180 calories per day. (12 pounds lean body mass X 15 calories/pound/day = ~180 calories/day)
In reality, the cat in the above example would probably be completely safe at only 150 calories per day.
If you have a small female cat that should only weigh 9 pounds, please make sure that she is consuming at least 135 calories per day."
So i did the math with that and found one thing.. and then while browsing today.. i found the feline obesity page with different numbers..
"Required calories per day = [13.6 X optimal lean body weight in pounds] + 70 Most female cats should weigh a nice, lean 10 -11 pounds. Most male cats should fall into the 11 -13 pound range.
Using an optimal body weight of 12 pounds as an example, we come up with 233 calories/day as a starting point.
[13.6 X 12 pounds] + 70 = 233"
Now, kiwi is not overweight and is about 9.6lbs and is a two year old male. i would say medium activity to sometimes high depending on his mood.. and occasionally he just is a lump in the sun.. so a normal cat.. If i do the math for this second set of info.. i get that he should be eating three (3oz) cans of his food ..
I'm confused as to which i should go by.. i have trouble as is getting him to eat a full three cans a day currently.. and for a while after switching him off dry kibble he was very inactive and acted almost like he wasn't getting enough.. so i can push for three but i am confused as to what he SHOULD be eating.. I would like to get him to 10lbs but only if that means it's muscle and not making him fat.. but i'm rather confused as to which equation i should be using to figure out his dietary requirements... If i go by Royal Canin's suggestion he'd be force fed almost 4 cans a day.. lol
Thanks for the help!
I've kept my eye on all of Dr. Pierson's pages on cat health, especially after our Kiwi had a UTI episode.. He was pushed onto an all wet Urinary S/O which we took him off of due to his refusal to eat and just switched him to an all wet form of his regular Royal Canin adult instinctive..
We were trying to figure out for some time why he looked like he lost weight coming off of kibble every day with a can of wet every other evening.. And low and behold, didn't realize how bad the kibble was for him, carb wise..
So we started looking around and i have found two different equations on her pages.. and am not sure what i should follow...
As it is, i have a hard time getting him to eat three (3oz) cans a day and when i did the math on what i found on the main page, i got that he should be eating about 2 (3oz) cans of food a day.. his cans having 68calories each... This is what i found on the main page:
"
I have never seen a cat develop hepatic lipidosis when consuming at least 15 calories per pound per day. This number is figured on lean body weight, not fat weight.
If your cat weighs 18 pounds but really should weigh 12 pounds, please make sure that he is consuming ~180 calories per day. (12 pounds lean body mass X 15 calories/pound/day = ~180 calories/day)
In reality, the cat in the above example would probably be completely safe at only 150 calories per day.
If you have a small female cat that should only weigh 9 pounds, please make sure that she is consuming at least 135 calories per day."
So i did the math with that and found one thing.. and then while browsing today.. i found the feline obesity page with different numbers..
"Required calories per day = [13.6 X optimal lean body weight in pounds] + 70 Most female cats should weigh a nice, lean 10 -11 pounds. Most male cats should fall into the 11 -13 pound range.
Using an optimal body weight of 12 pounds as an example, we come up with 233 calories/day as a starting point.
[13.6 X 12 pounds] + 70 = 233"
Now, kiwi is not overweight and is about 9.6lbs and is a two year old male. i would say medium activity to sometimes high depending on his mood.. and occasionally he just is a lump in the sun.. so a normal cat.. If i do the math for this second set of info.. i get that he should be eating three (3oz) cans of his food ..
I'm confused as to which i should go by.. i have trouble as is getting him to eat a full three cans a day currently.. and for a while after switching him off dry kibble he was very inactive and acted almost like he wasn't getting enough.. so i can push for three but i am confused as to what he SHOULD be eating.. I would like to get him to 10lbs but only if that means it's muscle and not making him fat.. but i'm rather confused as to which equation i should be using to figure out his dietary requirements... If i go by Royal Canin's suggestion he'd be force fed almost 4 cans a day.. lol
Thanks for the help!