Venting; One Step Forward, Five Steps Back

mikameek

TCS Member
Thread starter
Alpha Cat
Joined
Jun 2, 2018
Messages
474
Purraise
628
Location
Austin, Texas
I cannot express just how disheartened I feel right now. I just don't think there are words to describe it.
Mika has been going up and down with this liver thing.
For those that don't know, she's been through the ringer, really. She came to me off the streets (clearly part of TNR, has a cut ear, but seemed to be healthy, no fleas, and was microchipped; I believe her original family dumped her) and has been my baby since. She stopped eating in May and me being a first time cat owner had no clue of the issues cat get when they don't eat. She was taken to a vet after a week with little to no eating. Obviously, she has terrible liver values and she's jaundiced plus her gallbladder is all out of wack. We do medicine for a while (veraflox and ursodiol) which doesn't work because she's terrible at getting medicated and I'm new to it. We take her to an emergency clinic when the vet tells me her liver is failing. They send me to TAMU (our university hospital) where she stays for 3 days; they aspirate her liver and gallbladder. They find gallbladder sludge and inflammation of both organs but no reason behind it. They send her home and she goes back 3 days later for a recheck where we find out her values have almost doubled since she went home. They suspect a blockage in the biliary system but turns out it's just really shitty (excuse my language) gallbladder sludge. She gets put on a crap load of new medications which only success is to make me insane and upset. I finally get good at giving her denamarin (liver protectant) and her ursodiol but the TAMU vet is nervous since she isn't eating well on her own (eating, but not her full calorie count). They want to do a feeding tube which I couldn't afford after her 3 day visit and all the stuff they did at her recheck (I'm a college student). So I force feed her to supplement her own eating all while freaking out because I think my cat is going to die. We finally get good at that to where she starts eating all her calories on her own. Her values haven't returned to normal nor has her jaundiced but she's acting better. Vet tells me that she looks good and we can take her off all the other medications expect the ursodiol, which is where we are now.
She was doing so well, eating, peeing normally and acting so much better. We were just going to figure out her weight thing and the vet really thought that she would just slowly put on weight. We talked about steroids and B-12 in case she has IBD or some other inflammation but again, all that was for weight, not her liver issues.

Mika has started peeing small portions again, a clear indication of a UTI. If it is, this will be her 3rd time fighting it off which makes me really concerned about her blocking or needing surgery. All the things I've read on here and from other places makes it seem like UTIs shouldn't be a regular thing, especially for a cat on an all wet diet (she's been eating kibble now but she was on all wet with her first bouts of the UTI).
On top of that, she's peeing yellow again which means that her liver isn't processing the bilirubin in her system anymore. The vet changed out her ursodiol to pills again in case the compounded liquid form she had wasn't working anymore (and I couldn't afford to buy another bottle of the compounded liquid form because of a credit card issue I'm having with my bank - whole other story). But I'm stressing again.

We did SO much to get her to where she was. The vet was thoroughly impressed I got this cat back to eating normally and so well on a daily basis without a feeding tube. They really believed that Mika was going to die. But she's clearly fighting; the vet said so herself! She wants to keep going and live (most definitely without medication but I don't know she'll ever get off ursodiol). Everyone I have talked to about this makes the comments that most people would never put this much effort into saving a cat like this; that obviously I'm very dedicated and love Mika - and I do! But I'm running on steam. There is only so much I can do financially. When I decided to take her in I was expecting her to be sick, coming off the streets but I could never have planned for all this. It's even more frustrating that NO ONE has been able to find a real reason for how all this started. We have no idea WHY Mika is so sick so the only thing we can do is treat the symptoms.

I'm frustrated. Mika is still eating well but I can tell its starting to slip a little. I don't want to force feed her again because she's gotten to the point that any towel she sees me with causes her to run from me. I know it's stressful for her. The medication is stressful. She hates it so much but there is nothing I can do. She's obviously going to need to get another round of antibiotics to clear up this UTI (and I fully expect to be told that Mika is going to need to be on some special regime of something to keep her from getting another one).

But then I worry about her liver and gallbladder. Why can't we fix this? It hurts me so much that there is probably some way that Mika would be able to live a normal life without medications and I just can't afford it. I've thought that if she had been found by anyone else on that street, she probably would be living a normal life. I know it's just self pity and that's the last thing she needs from me. I just feel so guilty and scared. She is the most loving kitty ever. So sweet, always head bumping, always cuddling. She sleeps on my chest with me and will follow me around a lot. She's the cutest, especially when she rolls onto her back for belly rubs or purrs (which aren't normally audible but I know she's almost always doing it by feeling her neck) when I scratch under her chin. She DESERVES to be healthy and happy.

I hope that we haven't gotten too far from where we were. Hopefully it won't take us another month to get her to stop peeing yellow and that she wont get another UTI. We'll keep fighting so long as there is hope for a better future. I just want my baby healthy and happy. I want her to play and eat and know she's loved beyond belief.
 

nansiludie

TCS Member
Top Cat
Joined
Mar 14, 2014
Messages
2,171
Purraise
1,213
You've done so much for Mika, honestly its a lot more than most others would. I am sure Mika knows you are trying to help when its time for medicine but she just doesn't understand how it helps. Does the Vet have a rough estimate of how old she might be? Please try to take it a day at a time and just love her as much as you can. In the end, mikameek, no one is certain of tomorrow, all we have is today. Please keep us posted on how things are going for Mika. :hugs::crossfingers:
 

KarenKat

Kitty on the half shell, tortie power!
Top Cat
Joined
Apr 4, 2018
Messages
2,960
Purraise
7,260
Location
Littleton, CO
I’m so sorry you and Mika are going through this. I’ve been reading your other posts, and you are increasing her quality of life and she seems like such a happy and fun cat know that you are doing amazing things for her! No one can wish away your struggles, but we are here for you! Sending good vibes your way. :vibes::vibes::goodluck:
 
  • Thread Starter Thread Starter
  • #4

mikameek

TCS Member
Thread starter
Alpha Cat
Joined
Jun 2, 2018
Messages
474
Purraise
628
Location
Austin, Texas
You've done so much for Mika, honestly its a lot more than most others would. I am sure Mika knows you are trying to help when its time for medicine but she just doesn't understand how it helps. Does the Vet have a rough estimate of how old she might be? Please try to take it a day at a time and just love her as much as you can. In the end, mikameek, no one is certain of tomorrow, all we have is today. Please keep us posted on how things are going for Mika. :hugs::crossfingers:
She's 3 years old based off dental. She's so young to be having all these issues. :(
That's what I've been trying to do (and definitely I tell anyone else on this site when their problems are similar to Mikas) it's just so hard. Especially because I thought we were going to be in the clear soon. Her liver levels from her last blood work had dropped so well and nothing had gone up which was the first time since her hospital stay! I'm going to call the vet back and talk to them about putting her back on denamarin since she's peeing yellow again.
 
  • Thread Starter Thread Starter
  • #5

mikameek

TCS Member
Thread starter
Alpha Cat
Joined
Jun 2, 2018
Messages
474
Purraise
628
Location
Austin, Texas
I’m so sorry you and Mika are going through this. I’ve been reading your other posts, and you are increasing her quality of life and she seems like such a happy and fun cat know that you are doing amazing things for her! No one can wish away your struggles, but we are here for you! Sending good vibes your way. :vibes::vibes::goodluck:
It's so funny because I've always thought I had no motherly instincts. I'm 24 - a late college student, haha - and have never once had baby fever or wanted kids (and of course people keep telling me, you'll get there, it just isn't time yet). But I found Mika and suddenly there were all those hormones kicking in. She is my baby. I want the best for her. The best food, the best care, the best life. She deserves it. She really does.
Thank you for the support, it really does mean a lot.
 

Mother Dragon

Cat slave
Top Cat
Joined
Oct 17, 2006
Messages
1,514
Purraise
7
Location
Suburban Houston, TX
Sometimes UTIs come from stress, and you two have had plenty of it. Once she gets better and doesn't have to go through the stress of being medicated, it's quite possible the UTIs will go away.

You might reward her for taking her meds well by giving her a treat or some special playtime with a toy she only gets to play with then.

You might also use a Feliway diffuser to ease her distress. It's much better than Comfort Zone. It's not really cheap, but Chewy has fairly good prices. The diffuser form works best. Our vet and the feline specialist/behavior specialist both recommended it. They use it in their treatment rooms. The single cat formula is the correct one for stress. It mimics a pheromone from a mother cat that tells the kittens all is well. I can tell you it definitely DOES work. We can tell when the diffuser runs dry!

We'll all be keeping you and Mika in our thoughts. Feel free to reach out whenever you need ANYTHING. We're all here to take care of each other.
 
  • Thread Starter Thread Starter
  • #7

mikameek

TCS Member
Thread starter
Alpha Cat
Joined
Jun 2, 2018
Messages
474
Purraise
628
Location
Austin, Texas
Sometimes UTIs come from stress, and you two have had plenty of it. Once she gets better and doesn't have to go through the stress of being medicated, it's quite possible the UTIs will go away.

You might reward her for taking her meds well by giving her a treat or some special playtime with a toy she only gets to play with then.

You might also use a Feliway diffuser to ease her distress. It's much better than Comfort Zone. It's not really cheap, but Chewy has fairly good prices. The diffuser form works best. Our vet and the feline specialist/behavior specialist both recommended it. They use it in their treatment rooms. The single cat formula is the correct one for stress. It mimics a pheromone from a mother cat that tells the kittens all is well. I can tell you it definitely DOES work. We can tell when the diffuser runs dry!

We'll all be keeping you and Mika in our thoughts. Feel free to reach out whenever you need ANYTHING. We're all here to take care of each other.
Thank you for that, I'll look into getting a Feliway.
The room that I typically do medications in is pretty big though so I'll have to invest in a couple. I'll get them as soon as I'm able.
 

Mother Dragon

Cat slave
Top Cat
Joined
Oct 17, 2006
Messages
1,514
Purraise
7
Location
Suburban Houston, TX
I was just at the Feliway site and they recommend replacing the base after about five uses. Baloney! We've used ours for seven years and they're still fine. The diffusers also last more than 30 days. The single-cat is now called Classic.

Our bedroom is 13' x 21' and one diffuser is enough.

Here are the Chewy prices. PetsMart and Petco are substantially higher.

feliway - Free shipping at Chewy.com

Let me know if it helps. Good luck!
 

white shadow

TCS Member
Top Cat
Joined
Nov 28, 2010
Messages
3,133
Purraise
3,081
Location
CA
.
and, mikameek mikameek , my heart sank when I heard you say that you don't want to syringe-feed her again, but then, I thought, relax, this is a rant after all.

I went through many months of (utterly draining) hospice care with two of mine - both inappetent. One 'trick' was to 'change up' the foods a little. The a/d was the staple but I'd add in some fish/turkey/chicken periodically. I understand Gerber stage 2 meat baby foods are pretty irresistible to most cats.

And, I found that talking to the cats was really helpful - good for me and the cats. I would talk it all out...just as though it was an honest conversation with a trusted human friend....I laugh now when I think of one of them. Stryker never meowed, he vocalized just like a crow! And, every time I'd say something to him, he'd reply with "WAUGH" - vocal fry and all! He made my day....every day.

Oh, and having supplies (like the towels) immediately at hand - lying around in plain sight - was helpful too. I did have to be stealthy with syringes, though. I also used small syringes, too - 5 or10ml - less obvious and cumbersome and easier to manipulate made up for the little bit of extra work.

Perhaps a 'diary' thread just for this might help?

OK...we're 'around'
.
 
  • Thread Starter Thread Starter
  • #10

mikameek

TCS Member
Thread starter
Alpha Cat
Joined
Jun 2, 2018
Messages
474
Purraise
628
Location
Austin, Texas
.
and, mikameek mikameek , my heart sank when I heard you say that you don't want to syringe-feed her again, but then, I thought, relax, this is a rant after all.

I went through many months of (utterly draining) hospice care with two of mine - both inappetent. One 'trick' was to 'change up' the foods a little. The a/d was the staple but I'd add in some fish/turkey/chicken periodically. I understand Gerber stage 2 meat baby foods are pretty irresistible to most cats.

And, I found that talking to the cats was really helpful - good for me and the cats. I would talk it all out...just as though it was an honest conversation with a trusted human friend....I laugh now when I think of one of them. Stryker never meowed, he vocalized just like a crow! And, every time I'd say something to him, he'd reply with "WAUGH" - vocal fry and all! He made my day....every day.

Oh, and having supplies (like the towels) immediately at hand - lying around in plain sight - was helpful too. I did have to be stealthy with syringes, though. I also used small syringes, too - 5 or10ml - less obvious and cumbersome and easier to manipulate made up for the little bit of extra work.

Perhaps a 'diary' thread just for this might help?

OK...we're 'around'
.
No, of course I would absolutely syringe feed if she needs it. I'm having a hard time keeping up with her calories because she is eating from 5.5 oz cans, eating about 3/4 from them and then getting about 1/4 a cup of dry kibble. The good thing is she still has a desire to eat and is eating, I just can't tell how good she's actually doing. He pee was very yellow this morning but we got a new batch of Ursodiol yesterday into her so hopefully that will start helping.
I need to call her vet again today. She's thrown up basically every night for the past 4 days but it feels like her belly is still full. I'm concerned because when I weighed her today she'd lost even more weight but it feels like she still has lots of food in her belly. Like things aren't digesting.

I think I will make a diary thread. Do I do that in this forum? Or is there another forum section I should specifically make it in?

I really want to figure this out for everyone. She still acts like she's feeling good. She's exploring and climbing. She is cuddling and she's definitely not acting like she feels any worse.
 

AbbysMom

At Abby's beck and call
Staff Member
Moderator
Joined
May 18, 2005
Messages
78,525
Purraise
19,687
Location
Massachusetts
I think I will make a diary thread. Do I do that in this forum? Or is there another forum section I should specifically make it in?
This forum is for "human" support, not for suggestions and advice about your cat. If you want to make a diary with input from others with suggestions, then Health would be best. If you want to start a diary thread and your not looking for advice and suggestions then Cats Meow would be best. :)
 
  • Thread Starter Thread Starter
  • #12

mikameek

TCS Member
Thread starter
Alpha Cat
Joined
Jun 2, 2018
Messages
474
Purraise
628
Location
Austin, Texas
This forum is for "human" support, not for suggestions and advice about your cat. If you want to make a diary with input from others with suggestions, then Health would be best. If you want to start a diary thread and your not looking for advice and suggestions then Cats Meow would be best. :)
Thank you so much!
 
  • Thread Starter Thread Starter
  • #13

mikameek

TCS Member
Thread starter
Alpha Cat
Joined
Jun 2, 2018
Messages
474
Purraise
628
Location
Austin, Texas
I did some calculations a few minutes ago to the best of my ability based off how much I thought Mika ate of her dry & wet food. I realized I also gave her treats when it was time for her medication and after. She gets around 5-8 treats depending on how good she did (2-4 before and 3-4 after). So that's roughly 10 to 16 extra calories going into her belly. Which is likely putting her over her recommended calorie count daily.

This makes me more worried about her yellow pee. That means it more likely related to the UTI or her ursodiol than because she isn't eating. If thats the case, I need to be conscious to keep her calories up as much as I can to make sure we can rule out poor liver function due to HL as a cause.

For those interested, I decided to make the diary in health as I always appreciate and value knowledge from this community. You can find it here.
 
Top