Hello!
I’ve made a couple posts here before with questions, and I feel that we’re now in a place where we can actually work on this diet for Diana (as soon as we dig out the freezer and buy a couple things).
I’d just like someone to check over my final recipe I made, to check the meat/bone/organ ratio and the supplement amounts (and a couple other minor questions). I feel I’ve done enough reading and I pretty much averaged the recipes from Cat Nutrition, CatInfo, and Feline Nutrition; I just want to double check.
I’m going to start out getting most of the meat from Hare-Today (they’re luckily only a couple hours from me, so I could do pickup) and the supplements from iHerb.
Diana is allergic to every type of poultry we’ve tried and eggs, so those have to be left out of recipes. That’s why I’ve focused on pork/beef. She does like both (despite her many allergies, she’s the least picky and the most food driven animal I know), and honestly- rabbit is dang expensive - so I'm leaving that out for now (except for the bone, since that's the cheapest bone source on hare-today I could grind myself that's not chicken).
Recipe: (You guys can ignore the cost columns, that was just for my math purposes, there's links to each product in the name).
*I based my per ounce/per pound math for the skeletons off of 5lbs. Also, the skeletons appear to still have some meat on them, so I would assume that the bone content would actually be slightly less than in my math?
**Taurine: 100g bottle is 100,000 mg. 100,000/2,000 = 50 2,000 mg servings. This is correct, instead of what the bottle says, right?
***Getting salt at Walmart. Bottle says serving is ¼ tsp, 222 servings. Every recipe goes by ½ tsp-1.5tsp, so 111 servings.
Note: Each recipe says to add anywhere from 1-2 cups of water. I plan to add 2, depending on how it looks when I’m mixing.
RATIOS:
-Seem to fit the 80 meat/10 bone/5 liver/5 other secreting to me, as long as I’m not missing something
-Meat + Heart: (24 + 72 + 14) / 138 = 0.797
-Liver: 7 / 138 = 0.051
-Other Organ: 7 / 138 = 0.051
-Bone: 14 / 138 = 0.101
PORTIONS:
-I’ve seen it said that you should feed 3% of their ideal body weight in ounces.
-Diana weights about 10 lbs. 160 oz * 0.03 = 4.80 oz
-That’s what’s fed daily, right? She gets fed twice a day, so 2.4 oz twice a day.
TOOLS:
-I am going to need a grinder, as I’ve tried giving her little chunks of things and she struggles/doesn't like it. I’d feel a bit more comfortable giving her something similar to the canned/pate/etc she’s used to. I see that tasin grinder recommended everywhere, but it seems to be discontinued and I can’t find a used one. I found this grinder that (according to the reviews) seems like it’s strong enough to get through chicken bone, so I assume it could get through rabbit as well? I’ve never seen a rabbit’s bones, but they seem like they would be pretty weak to me. I’d prefer to keep it around $200, but if anyone has any other recommendations I’d appreciate it.
-Along with that, what would I need to break apart those rabbit skeletons(I’ve never broken down any sort of carcass before)? The picture on hare-today’s site isn’t super clear, I’m assuming I would need to cut a couple joints, and then the ribs and spine? Is a large knife enough to do that, or would I need to get a pair of poultry shears (or something stronger?)
And that should (hopefully, haha) cover it! Sorry for the dump of information, I’ve been reading and reading and I still feel a bit anxious, ya know?
I appreciate any help, thanks!
I’ve made a couple posts here before with questions, and I feel that we’re now in a place where we can actually work on this diet for Diana (as soon as we dig out the freezer and buy a couple things).
I’d just like someone to check over my final recipe I made, to check the meat/bone/organ ratio and the supplement amounts (and a couple other minor questions). I feel I’ve done enough reading and I pretty much averaged the recipes from Cat Nutrition, CatInfo, and Feline Nutrition; I just want to double check.
I’m going to start out getting most of the meat from Hare-Today (they’re luckily only a couple hours from me, so I could do pickup) and the supplements from iHerb.
Diana is allergic to every type of poultry we’ve tried and eggs, so those have to be left out of recipes. That’s why I’ve focused on pork/beef. She does like both (despite her many allergies, she’s the least picky and the most food driven animal I know), and honestly- rabbit is dang expensive - so I'm leaving that out for now (except for the bone, since that's the cheapest bone source on hare-today I could grind myself that's not chicken).
Recipe: (You guys can ignore the cost columns, that was just for my math purposes, there's links to each product in the name).
Name | Cost | Cost / Unit | Amount Needed | Cost / Needed |
Beef Trim | 22.19 / 5lbs | 4.44 / lb | 1.5 lb (24 oz) | 6.66 |
Pork Trim | 17.49 / 5lbs | 3.50 / lb | 4.5 lbs (72 oz) | 15.75 |
Pork Hearts | 13.49 / 5lbs | 2.70 / lb (0.17 / oz) | 14 oz | 2.38 |
Pork Liver | 8.29 / 2lbs | 4.15 / lb (0.25 / oz) | 7 oz | 1.75 |
Beef Kidney | 7.99 / 2 lbs | 4.00 / lb (0.25 / oz) | 7 oz | 1.75 |
Rabbit Skeleton* | 4.99 / 4-6 lbs | 1.00 / lb (0.06 / oz) | 14 oz | 0.84 |
MEAT TOTALS | 81.43 | x | 138oz | 29.13 |
Fish Oil | 15.00 /240 softgels | 0.06 / softgel | 6 softgels | 0.36 |
Vitamin E | 14.88 / 100 capsules | 0.15 / capsule | 2 capsules | 0.30 |
Vitamin B | 11.93 / 100 capsules | 0.12 / capsule | 3 capsules | 0.36 |
Taurine** | 7.28 / 50 servings | 0.15 / serving | 1 serving | 0.15 |
Morton Lite*** | 2.44 / 111 servings | 0.02 / serving | 3 servings | 0.06 |
SUPP. TOTALS | $51.53 | x | N/A | $1.23 |
TOTALS | $132.96 | x | 138oz + N/A | $30.36 |
**Taurine: 100g bottle is 100,000 mg. 100,000/2,000 = 50 2,000 mg servings. This is correct, instead of what the bottle says, right?
***Getting salt at Walmart. Bottle says serving is ¼ tsp, 222 servings. Every recipe goes by ½ tsp-1.5tsp, so 111 servings.
Note: Each recipe says to add anywhere from 1-2 cups of water. I plan to add 2, depending on how it looks when I’m mixing.
RATIOS:
-Seem to fit the 80 meat/10 bone/5 liver/5 other secreting to me, as long as I’m not missing something
-Meat + Heart: (24 + 72 + 14) / 138 = 0.797
-Liver: 7 / 138 = 0.051
-Other Organ: 7 / 138 = 0.051
-Bone: 14 / 138 = 0.101
PORTIONS:
-I’ve seen it said that you should feed 3% of their ideal body weight in ounces.
-Diana weights about 10 lbs. 160 oz * 0.03 = 4.80 oz
-That’s what’s fed daily, right? She gets fed twice a day, so 2.4 oz twice a day.
TOOLS:
-I am going to need a grinder, as I’ve tried giving her little chunks of things and she struggles/doesn't like it. I’d feel a bit more comfortable giving her something similar to the canned/pate/etc she’s used to. I see that tasin grinder recommended everywhere, but it seems to be discontinued and I can’t find a used one. I found this grinder that (according to the reviews) seems like it’s strong enough to get through chicken bone, so I assume it could get through rabbit as well? I’ve never seen a rabbit’s bones, but they seem like they would be pretty weak to me. I’d prefer to keep it around $200, but if anyone has any other recommendations I’d appreciate it.
-Along with that, what would I need to break apart those rabbit skeletons(I’ve never broken down any sort of carcass before)? The picture on hare-today’s site isn’t super clear, I’m assuming I would need to cut a couple joints, and then the ribs and spine? Is a large knife enough to do that, or would I need to get a pair of poultry shears (or something stronger?)
And that should (hopefully, haha) cover it! Sorry for the dump of information, I’ve been reading and reading and I still feel a bit anxious, ya know?
I appreciate any help, thanks!