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post #31 of 47
Yes, but if the wages are raised for everyone, they may have 2x the amount of customers buying their products because people have the money to do soand therefore, the raise in wages shouldn't be that bad where they would have to raise costs so much that this con would out weight the pros.
post #32 of 47
To be honest, they would have to raise the mimimum wage a lot more than they are proposing, in order to give people more money to go out and spend and put money into the economy. The amount they want to raise the minimum wage to, is still not a livable wage.
post #33 of 47
Yes, but that is exactly the problem. It SHOULD be a liveable wage, especially in a country like America and especially if it would actually help the economy, not hurt it.
post #34 of 47
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Argh!!!! So yesterday I was job hunting for a second job just to make ends meet - i'm already swamped with one job, fostering, and going to school full time. Well, they were willing to hire me, but were only willing to pay $6.00 an hour! I can't live off of that at all- and none of my former jobs ever paid that low. I very politely declined their offer and told them the only way I would be willing to take the job would to be if they raised the hourly rate, otherwise, I simply couldn't live off of that. They "didn't" have the money to do that, so I politely declined the job offer. I definitely think that minimum wage should be raised to meet inflation and the costs of living.
post #35 of 47
There is a remote possibility that if we raise the minimum wage to $8, then all the people currently making $8 an hour would suddenly be on the bottom of the social scale, and they would quit their jobs because governmental aids pay better.

Also, since income is directly proportional to personal fulfillment (and confidence), raising some people's income while not raising others' income would decrease the fulfillment and confidence of many workers.

All of us know people who are slackers because they are stuck in a low-wage, low-advancement jobs. If we raise minimum wage we will create a new subgroup of social echleon which would be establishing the new poverty level.

It is absolutely demoralizing to make minimum wage when one did not work for minimum wage before.
post #36 of 47
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All of us know people who are slackers because they are stuck in a low-wage, low-advancement jobs...
You have made many good points. But i kindly have to disagree with you on that statment. I am not a slacker- nor have I ever been. I am definitely at the lower end of the pay scale. I work full time already- i own my own business (i'm a florist/wedding planner - i design out of my home since I don't have the money to open a shop yet). I attend school full time as I am currently working towards my degree in the medical field. I volunteer around the clock fostering kittens and puppies and at the moment, I am currently trying to find a second job just to make ends meet. Now I am definitely not the only person who makes lower wages and is a hard worker. My sister kimmy - she's 30, married with 3 children....and makes $7.00 an hour as a full time day care teacher -I used to work with her. There are many hard workers out there who are trying to better themselves, support their families, and make a difference in their communities- these individuals are certainly not slackers....yet they have for whatever reason, found themselves in jobs that do not financially provide them with adequate pay to even begin to make ends meet. I would certainly be out on the streets right now, were it not for me putting myself through several financial classes in previous years and learning to start good habits before I ever had an opportunity to start bad ones (i've very good with my money and savings). So yes, while there are some people out there who work minimum wage and are considered "slacker"- which most of them aren't- minimum wage jobs tend to be some of the hardest ones out there with no benifits, no bonuses, no paid holidays, no sick days, etc..and the employees are often treated like work horses....so while some people may view them as slackers because they are at the lower end of the pay scale- many of these people work harder than those who are currently sitting behind a nice cherry wood desk in a big office. Most people who work lower wage jobs have more than one job just to put food on their table and keep a roof over their head. So i definitely do not agree that all people on the lower end of the pay scale are slackers. I am definitely not a slacker- neithor is anyone else in my family- we work for everything we want and need. This is exactly why i'm trying to get me degree so that I can further my education and hopefully be able to provide for my future as well as any little ones that come along.
post #37 of 47
You and your sister are definitely not "low advancement" through.

You guys definitely try to better themselves.
post #38 of 47
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You and your sister are definitely not "low advancement" through.

You guys definitely try to better themselves.
Thanks, i appreciate that. Yet sadly- there is NO room for advancement in the job she is currently in...she's kind of "stuck" there in a sense. Regaurdless of not being "low advancement" -there is still no room for advancement in her field of work. I've really been encouraging her lately to try and get her GED so that she can hopefully begin to further her education and find a better paying job with room for advancement. (She became pregnant about 3 months before she would have graduated high school- and instead of graduating, they would have let her, she decided to drop out. She's 30 now, with three children and a wonderful husband...but still stuck in a dead end job trying to make ends meet...it's sad..I help them as much as I can) Me personally- I graduated with a 4.0 and have been in college the past 3 yrs....still no work advancement (that degree will definitely be helpfully once i graduate) I know you understand that - you have your degree as well - what field is it in again?
post #39 of 47
I don't think ANYONE who works is a slacker. To me, a slacker is someone is who lays around doing NOTHING, and expects everyone else who is working to pay their way. Just because a person has a low paying job, does not make him or her a slacker. Some low income people are out there working 2 or 3 jobs to try to make ends meet. How can that person be a slacker?

I've always believed that the lower your pay, the harder you work.
post #40 of 47
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I don't think ANYONE who works is a slacker. To me, a slacker is someone is who lays around doing NOTHING, and expects everyone else who is working to pay their way. Just because a person has a low paying job, does not make him or her a slacker. Some low income people are out there working 2 or 3 jobs to try to make ends meet. How can that person be a slacker?

I've always believed that the lower your pay, the harder you work.
Well put Hope....

I work for 6 different companies and only after nearly four years of adding companies and jobs am I getting to where I can pay all the bills ( within the grace) on time( knock on wood) .... I put in many many hours I am not paid for amd lucky to get one day off a week .... I do make double to triple minimum wage but am not quite up to a " living wage" in my area...
post #41 of 47
With the cost of living going up,minimum wage should too
post #42 of 47
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Originally Posted by HopeHacker View Post
I don't think ANYONE who works is a slacker. To me, a slacker is someone is who lays around doing NOTHING, and expects everyone else who is working to pay their way. Just because a person has a low paying job, does not make him or her a slacker. Some low income people are out there working 2 or 3 jobs to try to make ends meet. How can that person be a slacker?

I've always believed that the lower your pay, the harder you work.
!!!!! I couldn't agree with you more Hope!!!!!!!!!! Preach on!!!
post #43 of 47
and underwear should be changed daily and worn on the outside so the police can check.
post #44 of 47
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and underwear should be changed daily and worn on the outside so the police can check.
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post #45 of 47
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Originally Posted by HopeHacker View Post
I don't think ANYONE who works is a slacker. To me, a slacker is someone is who lays around doing NOTHING, and expects everyone else who is working to pay their way. Just because a person has a low paying job, does not make him or her a slacker. Some low income people are out there working 2 or 3 jobs to try to make ends meet. How can that person be a slacker?

I've always believed that the lower your pay, the harder you work.
Well said!
post #46 of 47
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duh it's non sequitor humor. I am sick, ignore it .
post #47 of 47
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duh it's non sequitor humor. I am sick, ignore it .
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