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They're like the Mary Kate and Ashley Olsen of the KKK!

I saw a segment on them with Diane Sawyer and I was just appalled. The girls didn't even have enough education to know to be ashamed that they thought playing the game "Ethnic Cleansing" (where you exterminate non-white people) was "sort of fun".

I just don't even know what to say, other than when people tell me racism is dead, I know where to send them!

~Julia
post #2 of 29
I saw a couple of news shows on those girls. I'm a Jew, and I pity those girls. That hate has been drilled in their heads since they were babies. They don't know any better.
post #3 of 29
When I was home sick the past 2 days, I saw a lot of interviews with them - I was in shock!
post #4 of 29
I'd never heard of them before. I'm just shocked, I just really don't get people who think like that. It's like round peg square hole - it just doesn't fit in my brain.
post #5 of 29
I read/saw something about them before, I can't remember where. That's just sad.
post #6 of 29
They are disgusting, as is what they stand for. I heard about them a long time ago and I think the story I saw said that Prussian Blue was the name for the cyanide tablets that killed people in the Nazi gas chambers of the Holocuast (or something similar). It's sad how narrow-minded parents and families breed future generations of hate.
I do not, however, believe in censoring their music because they have a right to sing what they want to sing here in America, just as I have the right to say that it's all full of .
post #7 of 29
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Originally Posted by ugaimes View Post
They are disgusting, as is what they stand for. I heard about them a long time ago and I think the story I saw said that Prussian Blue was the name for the cyanide tablets that killed people in the Nazi gas chambers of the Holocuast (or something similar). It's sad how narrow-minded parents and families breed future generations of hate.
I do not, however, beleive in censoring their music because they have a right to sing what they want to sing here in America, just as I have the right to say that it's all full of .

Well said Amy
post #8 of 29
I also saw an interview with them and they said that Hitler "had a lot of good ideas." Its hard for me to beleive that, in this day and age, there is still such a large sub-culture of skinheads and white supremacists.
post #9 of 29
I've never heard about them until now. Unfortunately, I went over to their website and had the displeasure of checking out their forums. Ick. Don't want to travel that path again.
post #10 of 29
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I also saw an interview with them and they said that Hitler "had a lot of good ideas." Its hard for me to beleive that, in this day and age, there is still such a large sub-culture of skinheads and white supremacists.
for whats it worth, Hitler did have some good ideas,

He pulled germany up from the mess that was left after WW1, and made it into a world power. If he had stopped there he would be seen today as a great leader. But since he did not, most people know him as a nut case which he was.

i dont know about a large sub culture, but of course it is there, in all groups, not just white people. For some reason it is just when some crazy white person does soemthing that is racist that it makes the news. Racist stuff goes in all ways,not just from white people.

lol but anyway, IMO there music is not very good, and they are not very cute.
post #11 of 29
this stuff makes me so angry. but i do pity the girls this is how they grew up. and they have known nothing but hate in their life
post #12 of 29
seriously their parents should be put in jail for child abuse. That is just HORRIBLE!!!
post #13 of 29
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for whats it worth, Hitler did have some good ideas,

He pulled germany up from the mess that was left after WW1, and made it into a world power. If he had stopped there he would be seen today as a great leader. But since he did not, most people know him as a nut case which he was.
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He did have some good ideas and was a great public speaker. If wasn't so crazy he would have been able to do great things. Instead he thought it was a good idea to invade most of Europe, and start a World War. Why he thought it was a good idea.... no one will ever know.
post #14 of 29
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I saw a couple of news shows on those girls. I'm a Jew, and I pity those girls. That hate has been drilled in their heads since they were babies. They don't know any better.
I agree with you. Over 3/4 of my fathers family were killed during the Holocaust. What saddens me even more was one of the comments the girls made stating "I think the Jews were exaggerating" when they talked about the number of people killed. It saddens me soo much that those girls have those viewpoints engrained in their head....Did you see the part where they played "tick tack toe" on a swachtica (sp?)...that is soo sad that people raise their children that way. I feel so bad for those girls. I wish i could just hug them and tell them that they are loved and how important it is to love other people too...

In a side note..I'm part Isralie
post #15 of 29
WHY are the so-called "news" shows providing them with free publicity? From what I've read, they aren't THAT popular. There are a number of neo-Nazi skinhead bands out there but, without getting a major record contract, radio play or music videos, they're not getting much of a following.
post #16 of 29
Ionly heard of them when I read the first post here. But they aren't something I am interested in listening too. Not necessarily for what they are saying but I don't care much for teeny-bopper pop music, even though their message seems like much more then that.

I have to say though they have a coolest names I ever heard. Lamb and Lynx and their sister is Dresden. Love the odd names. Don't like them at all though.
post #17 of 29
I heard about them awhile back and it was sickening.

I remember being their age, and actually having opinions of my own, and I don't pity them. They're 13, which is old enough to know better. In ten years, when they're still acting like idjits, will we still pity them for how they were brought up?

There is a huge racist culture in America. In my experience, there are areas of America where the majority of people are racist. Some violently so, some subtly so.

I would like to make a very important point real quick--- skinheads are not racist, actually, most of them are anti-racist and there is a subsection which goes out looking for fights with the racist skinheads. The racist skinheads sort of stole the image of a group of people who weren't racist at all.

And people who think the Holocaust is exaggerated remind me of people who think the Earth is flat.
post #18 of 29
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for whats it worth, Hitler did have some good ideas,

He pulled germany up from the mess that was left after WW1, and made it into a world power. If he had stopped there he would be seen today as a great leader. But since he did not, most people know him as a nut case which he was.
From what I understand (I'm no expert in European history), pretty much the only reason why the economy picked up in Germany under Hitler was because he launched a large program of re-militarization. That's not the kind of economic recovery that can really be sustained. He wasn't building much infrastructure or creating any wealth.

It is impossible to tell what would have happened if he hadn't launched a war and the holocaust... but it seemed that most of what he did was centered around finding ways to get more power to himself. He did crave popularity and as a result had some policies to help the 'German people' (that is... the white German people) but it was all done for the sake of solidifying his power and feeding his ego.

Once again, I'm not an expert on European history and I could be wrong on this (I'm mostly repeating what my prof said). I am not either rejecting the idea that Hitler might have had some good ideas (maybe I just haven't looked deeply enough). However, my impression is that he didn't really do anything for Germany's sake... mostly for his own sake.
post #19 of 29
Hitler may not have had pure motives, but he did do a lot that benefitted the German people as a whole. He did built a huge about of infrastructure - otherwise the military manufacturing wouldn't have gone as smoothly as it did.

He was also the one who came up with a volks wagon - a people's car. Something that every working family could afford. From Wikipedia
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Adolf Hitler's desire that almost anybody should be able to afford a car coincided with this design—although much of this design was inspired by the advanced Tatra cars of Hans Ledwinka.

Hitler, who had a keen interest in cars even if he didn't drive, demanded Porsche make changes to the original design to make it more suited for the working man. According to the historian Richard Evans, Hitler personally designed the distinctive rounded shape of the car he desired Porsche to build - making the Volkswagen "Beetle" Hitler's most lasting legacy to the world.[1]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagon

Hitler was hugely patriotic and truly loved Germany. That is why he started his political career to begin with. He was a soldier in WWI, and hated what had happened to his beloved homeland following Germany's defeat and the Treaty of Versailles that was signed, which basically halted Germany's economy as well as belittling the entire country. He wanted to see Germany in her full glory, and as a world power (which eventually became taking over the world!).

Yes, he is mostly remembered for the Holocause and his Anti-semitism, but that sentiment was not his alone - it was one of his running platforms that got him elected to begin with! It wasn't right, but it wasn't his only "accomplishment". There is a lot of history that is being overlooked in regards to WWII and Germany in particular.
post #20 of 29
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And people who think the Holocaust is exaggerated remind me of people who think the Earth is flat.
I agree with you on that one!!!!
post #21 of 29
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Once again, I'm not an expert on European history and I could be wrong on this (I'm mostly repeating what my prof said). I am not either rejecting the idea that Hitler might have had some good ideas (maybe I just haven't looked deeply enough). However, my impression is that he didn't really do anything for Germany's sake... mostly for his own sake.
valanhb already covered it alot of it so there is no need to add more. In terms of history class, they are only going to give you the basic information, History is much more then just a date. If i was a teacher i would care less if my students remember a Date in hisotry. Such as july 4, 1776. What i would want my students to know and understand is the steps or process that made that date important,, just so they know, the war of 1812 was before the american civil war

I still toy with the idea of going back to school to get a masters degree in history.
post #22 of 29
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Originally Posted by Zissou'sMom View Post
There is a huge racist culture in America. In my experience, there are areas of America where the majority of people are racist. Some violently so, some subtly so.
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Just to add that is just not in America, We just yell and complain about it more.
let see in hk i was often called a gwailo(ghost or white faced devil) granted in hk i did not hear it much(accept from my GF mother who used to ask if she was still dating that gwailo)

in indo anyone that is white is called a bule, eh bule, beli ini dong which means(hey white guy come buy this). Some dictionaries say the word means albino, how others list it as a impolite word for a white person.

i have never lived in europe so i cant really speak for how people are there.
i can of course only speak about places i have lived, but from those places america at least talks and complains, and has more people who think it is wrong. When we go to singapore my wife is a little dark, vs most chinese, so they assume she is a maid or something and is treated like a 4 class person. etc, anyway i could write a whole book on race problems in Asia but first i would need to learn to write.

maybe some day the human race will get past all this.
post #23 of 29
Oh, I certainly didn't mean to imply that bigotry is an American occurence, at all. A fear of what is different is intrinsically human, it's just that most sane people get over it at some point in their lives so they can be productive members of society. America is, however, a very unique experience in it's ubiquitous lack of homogeneity while at the same time a culture which tries really hard to be homogenous, a feat which very few cultures attempt.

People like the fans of Prussian Blue are almost hilarious to me, if the sentiment weren't so dangerous. They are angry and need a scapegoat, so they pick an easy target who they usually haven't had much contact with. It's a cowardly emotion.
post #24 of 29
You know, after mentioning them to my boyfriend and showing him the picture of them in the have a nice day shirt with hitler on it, he said "hmmm looks like a marketing ploy to me" hehe, thought that was funny.
post #25 of 29
I spent far too long on Germany and the 2nd world war in history a couple of years ago, and from what I remember Hitler was doing pretty well with the self sufficiency, road building to provide jobs for the masses, and population expansion drive thing. He just went nuts with the whole taking over the world aspect. If he hadn't ruined the country by diverting all funds and work force to the military and had stopped before Poland he'd have taken over quite abit of land. The rest of the world was perfectly happy to let him have Austria and the Rhineland.
I read about those girls a few months ago and think that shows one of the dangers of home-schooling! (obviously only if you have a mother like that)
I went on the forum via a link to the blog and ... I'm astounded that people can still have these views in this day and age. Mostly that they think it is acceptable to, really.
All I can say is I am NEVER going to deep south america! For every 1000 perfectly nice normal people, there's always the 1 racist who would lynch me.

"The wind of change is coming my friend. I believe the great race war is on the way. Things will change after all our fellow white comrades our joined under one banner. When all the KKK, Neo-Nazis, National Socialists, and everyone are united under one banner, that of "white pride" we will be victorious and things will begin to change for the better."

http://www.officialprussianblue.net/...read.php?t=908
post #26 of 29
Cata_mint, there's people like that everywhere, not just in the deep south. Indiana was run by the KKK for awhile (like, their governor was majorly in the KKK).

Anyway, I read as much of that as I could without vomiting, and it seems that they are hypocrites. They are whining about getting kicked off myspace (good) and at the same time you see absolutely no dissent. They all agree with each other, and you know people must join to voice alternate opinions. I bet they delete them all.

Amazing.
post #27 of 29
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Originally Posted by Zissou'sMom View Post
Cata_mint, there's people like that everywhere, not just in the deep south. Indiana was run by the KKK for awhile (like, their governor was majorly in the KKK).

Amazing.
I remember seeing that on the history channel (I think) or maybe it was A&E. Several town governments were run by the KKK, including Muncie, where I did my undergrad. It's really sad. The effects of that racism are still so far reaching around here. It's sad to think of the not to distant past and just how incorporated racism was into the culture here.
post #28 of 29
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. I heard about them a long time ago and I think the story I saw said that Prussian Blue was the name for the cyanide tablets that killed people in the Nazi gas chambers of the Holocuast (or something similar).
I dont doubt the girls said unmature and or stupid things.

But Prussian blue is as I know a colour, ie a paint, a shade of blue. Painters should know more here.
post #29 of 29
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I dont doubt the girls said unmature and or stupid things.

But Prussian blue is as I know a colour, ie a paint, a shade of blue. Painters should know more here.
StefanZ, yes it is a color. In fact the reason that the color is associated with Nazis is because its pigment base is iron cyanide, a compund used to kill thousands of jews, homosexuals, and even catholics. Because you can't be a good Nazi if you have any religious values, right?
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