Over The Counter Wormers-round Worms

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This is what I got for mine:

Strongid T small $9.00
Droncit under 5# $23.80 0.2ml
Medical Wast $ 1.00 (disposal of needle)

This is times two as I have 2 of them.


What is your opinion? Do they need another or not?

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I just called the vet and they said they were good with one dose unless I see more worms. I don't feel good about that as I am reading that 2 doses or 3 is recommended.

Any suggestions????

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You can always call another vet and ask for a second opinion. Perhaps their reasoning is that, if the Strongid was given as a precaution rather than as a treatment for a known infection, it is unnecessary to use the medicine twice. If you see dead worms killed by the dewormer I would call them back and say you did see worms, and that you would like to give the second dose. Hopefully they'd let you pick it up and just pay the 9$ rather than making an appt!
Don't worry yourself sick over it, though!

Sharky, I would love to know what your vet says about it. Please update.
 

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If you don;t see more worms and the vet said it is not necessary then I really don't think it is. Do you know for sure the cat had worms in the first place or did you just deworm her just in case?

I guess I lucked out with dewormers. The low cost vet I go to gives dewormer for free. The regular vet recommend I go to the local feed store and use their dewormers for whatever worms the cat has as long as I know the difference. This was when I explained that I take in strays and wondered if I could buy dewormer in bulk amounts to deworm the cats when I get them in and they said no they couldn't do that, which I expected. The vet said the local feed stores use exactly the same dewormers that they do and they told me the dosage I need to use.

The shelter I used to work at would use Panacur for livestock and just use a tiny dose (recommended by the vet) for the cats and kittens. I think there is a Panacur for cats too. The ingredients are Praziquantel, Pyrantel Pamoate, and Febantel so it treats all worms it looks like.
 

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Jen, is your vet recommending Ivermectin? I know there's an oral paste sold at feed stores for horses and cows and that it's often used for rabbits and dogs. Wasn't sure about giving it orally to cats, but my kittens got an otic (ear) version for their ear mites. It's supposed to be an excellant broad-spectrum antiparasitic and is often used for intestinal parasites and ear/fur mites.

Now before anyone goes and gives their animals Ivermectin without a vet's advice, the correct dosage is crucial! And certain breeds/colors of dogs (blue eyed collie? could be wrong) and possibly rabbits (blue eyed Dutch) might be sensitive to it and have a toxic reaction that requires immediate vet treatment. I would never, ever give this without a vet's advice because I know several people whose pets had problems.
 

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I thought that is what he was going to recomend but he said something with a P. This was awhile agoa nd I wrote it down at the time but I can't find it. He said just call the feed store and ask for the broad spectrum dewormer for cats.
 

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I did research and you can purchase it in bulk. It does appear it is the same but as you stated for livesock, or what I saw was for equine. Anyway it gave the dose according to weight and appears to be what I got at the vet. I will look at the feed store too.

I did see worms though. We fecal tested only one and that one was clean. A few days later we saw round worms and before I got to the vet the clean one had tapeworms. So I did them both for both worms.

Oh and the worms do appear to be gone. No evidence of any of them now and their appetite has slowed down consierably. Before I could not fill them up and felt like I was running the cat cafe and feeding every 30 minutes.

Thanks for the information!!!

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I am not necesssarily recommending going to the feed store for dewormer. I just asked the vet specifically about it since I take in strays all the time and most end up with fleas and worms. I never promote buying over the counter products but I am just saying the vet recommended it to me so talk to the vet if you are curious about it.
 

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I will see what they say.

The lady I got the kittens from told me the same thing and to get their shots there too as they do sell all but rabies that you can do yourself, but I am not that brave.

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Oh some how I missed the message about Ivermectin. The clinic I am using to spay mine uses that and gives it to all of them and rabies included in the spaying/neutering. I guess it is good stuff, but don't know for sure.

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The shelter I worked at told me about ordering vaccinations for my strays from drsfostersmith.com. I guess some breeders do this to save on costs. But I don't know if all vets will necessarily be okay with self-vaccinations when you bring your cat in for the bigger stuff that might come up. And rabies cannot be done yourself that I know of.
 
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it depends what state you live in, in some states you can do rabies yourself, others you cant. most vets are and should be ok with you doing any vaccines yourself, they just might want proof (the label from the vaccine bottle stuck on a 3x5 card with the name and age of the animal and date it was given).
 

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Originally Posted by jaycee

it depends what state you live in, in some states you can do rabies yourself, others you cant. most vets are and should be ok with you doing any vaccines yourself, they just might want proof (the label from the vaccine bottle stuck on a 3x5 card with the name and age of the animal and date it was given).
What states allow rabies to be done by a non vet???
 
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individuals who do not reside in one of the following states can purchase rabies vaccine from online stores. im assuming that would also mean you can administer them. if you live in one of the states listed here, you cannot purchase rabies vaccine online.

AK, AL, AR, CA, CT, GA, HI, IA, ID, IL, IN, KS, MD, ME, MN, MO, MT, NC, ND, NJ, NM, NV, NY, OR, RI, SC, TX, UT, WA, WV, WY.
 

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Thank you... I have only lived in one state not on that list and at the time you couldnt
 

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NO- they do not and they can wind up causing harmful side effects. That being said, you should only allow your cat to be dewormed with Strongent- (this can be done at a vets office, low cost spay/neuter clinic, or your local shelter)- it is very inexpensive and it works well. The only side effect is a touch of diarreah- you can help keep the kitty hydrated by giving it some pedialyte for a few hours after deworming. Pedialyte can be found in the diaper/baby food section of any grocery/wal-mart store
 

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Originally Posted by StarryEyedTiGeR

NO- they do not and they can wind up causing harmful side effects. That being said, you should only allow your cat to be dewormed with Strongent- (this can be done at a vets office, low cost spay/neuter clinic, or your local shelter)- it is very inexpensive and it works well. The only side effect is a touch of diarreah- you can help keep the kitty hydrated by giving it some pedialyte for a few hours after deworming. Pedialyte can be found in the diaper/baby food section of any grocery/wal-mart store
Is it Strongent or Strongid? Or are those the same thing? Strongid I know is just for hook and round worms. Drontal is for Tapeworms and the Panacur from the feed store is for all of them. So assuming Strongid and Strongent are the same, why would you only allow that when there are other worms which meds like Drontal or the broad spectrum dewormers can treat?

I am looking into ordering vaccines from drsfostersmith.com for the huge number of strays I take in. It has been recommended to me and I have given vaccinations before. I only vaccinate one time though with adult cat shots and thats it. I don't revaccinate every year or three years or whatever it is. And it is really inexpensive if you buy in bulk amounts.

But rabies I didn't know
 
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strongid i thought is only for round worms and pin worms, not hook worms?
 

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My vet gives us Pyra wormer. I am to use it once a week for four weeks. i have done this with all of my cats. Is this correct??
 

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Jaclyn, assuming it's Pyran and that's a typo, it's the same thing as Strongid (pyrantel pamoate). I'm sure your vet knows what he's doing, and that the dosage instructions are correct, it is a different med and may be a different dosage meant to be given 4 times in one month rather than two.
 
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