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well the 1 who had the club foot has complety gone , i'm up the vet's on tuesday as there not open untill then , but i have seen a flee!!!! we havn't had flee's since we last took in a stray cat 5 year's ago ffs anything i can do in the mean time ??? the 1 who came out first who seemed to be the bigest seem's to be the runt after all i am getting scale's tomorrow to keep a check on her i phoned up the vet's today as Lilly dosn't seem to have hardly any milk but they said as long as the kitten's are getting bigger it just mean's there drinking her dry and not to worry there name's are midnight... forest.... and tigerlilly thanx for all ur help and support through this