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Please help - female kitten peeing everywhere

post #1 of 15
Thread Starter 
Hi All.

Ok, i have a 6 month old female Norwegian Forest Cat, she is gorgeous.

She was spayed about 3 weeks ago.

I also have a 1 year old male neutered ragdoll. The ragdoll (Riley) occassionally used to pee on his bed.

When i got the female cat (jasmine), she was 14 weeks old and was always excellent at using her litter tray.

about 1 week before she was spayed her saw her weeing, tho i think it was spraying, on the carpet. I told her off and she was fine after that. Then she got spayed.

Since she has been spayed she has been weeing - not spraying - everywhere, on my carpets, her own bed, a bean bag, pretty much anything she can find.

Ive taken up the carpet to get rid of the smell and used various deterant sprays everywhere else, but as soon as i put a spray where she hasjust wee'd, she find somewhere else to go! Always soft spots tho.

But what i do find strange, is she doesnt wee outside the litter box all the time, 90% of the time she goes in the tray, but once a day, usually first thing in the morning, she wees outside the tray. But then goes into the tray to poo!

I have 2 covered in litter trays which she has always been fine with, they are cleaned several times a day, and shes on whiskas wet kitten food.

Im taking her to the vet tomorrow to see if its an infection, but does anyone have any ideas what it could be?
post #2 of 15
Im thinking about this - why is she peeing outside litter the first time, in the morning??

Perhaps you could try with a litter used a little, ie not SO clean as you usually have...
A third litter??

Do you use parfumed cat-sand? dont.
post #3 of 15
Thread Starter 

I use plain cat litter gravel stuff, usually Catsan. I dont like the perfumed one.

I have only noticed her peeing first thing in the morning, tho i know once she did do it in the evening, but more recently it has been in the morning,then the rest of the day she is fine.
post #4 of 15
I am glad that you are taking her to the vet. Your description sounds as if she has a urinary tract infection, which will cause the cat to pee outside the litterbox. However, it is important to note that some female cats will mark their surroundings with urine when they are in heat, and sometimes a cat will have a "left-over" heat soon after being spayed. So, her peeing could also be due to residual hormones that will go away soon. Your vet will be able to determine whether it is a medical or hormonal problem.

Let us know what the vet says.
post #5 of 15
Thread Starter 
I had no idea about the "left over" heat female cats can have!

The very first time i saw her weeing was before she was spayed and she was definitely in heat, calling to my neutered male cat, rubbing round him, and then lifting her tail up and spraying the corner of the room. Unfortunately i havent actually seen her do it since, i just seem to catch her as shes finished, so i cant tell if its weeing or spraying.

How long can the left over heat last?
post #6 of 15
That's a good question! I'm thinking that it usually lasts little more than a week, though I might be wrong about that!
post #7 of 15
Thread Starter 
Well it turns out its not an infection, and shes not marking.

The vet thinks it could be a behavioural thing so is referring her to behavioural classes!

Ive also had to give her rescue remedy.

post #8 of 15
I would suggest trying feliway, if you haven't already. As well as using an enzyme cleaner to clean up after her accidents. It is rumored that using bleach, can sometime attract the cat back to the same spot. I don't know if that is fact.
Do you think adding another box would help? My cats believe one box is for urination and one box is for defication, and they would be so upset if someone in the crew didn't follow these directions. If a newbie kitty comes in and makes this mistake, the other cats will rebel, until Meowmy or my hubby cleans it up.
I also have dealt with heat cycle after spay, and for me it lasted through one full heat cycle before she returned to normal. I hope that your kitty does soon.
post #9 of 15
Thread Starter 

I am considering getting a feliway actually, ive heard a lot of good things about them. i do have 2 litter trays already, my ragdoll seems to use one and jasmine uses the other.

Im wondering if i should try changing the litter, at the moment i have one tray with catsan original and one with wood litter, but ive heard Yesterdays News is good, and ive also seen one called Cat Attract which is for problem cats.
post #10 of 15
Stopping Inappropriate Urination

First, we need to know for sure that the problem is urinating rather than spraying. If the cat is standing and the urine shoots straight back so that he/she is aiming high on the wall or side of the couch, it is spraying. If the cat squats while urinating, it is normal urination. This hand-out is for urination problems rather than for spraying.

The first and most important thing to do is to take the cat to the vet! You need to specify that the cat is urinating outside the box so that the vet knows what to look for. Urinating outside the litter box is the #1 symptom of urinary tract problems! A urinary blockage can quickly kill a cat!

If the vet says she is okay, then consider making a few changes:

• If you use a covered litter box, take off the lid. Many cats refuse to use covered boxes.

• Most cats prefer fine-grained unscented litter. So, try changing litter even if she liked this litter in the past.

• Most cats prefer to poop in a different box than the one in which they pee. So have at least two boxes for one cat.

• If you have more than one cat, make sure you have at least one litter box per cat PLUS one extra box. So, if you have two cats, three litter boxes is ideal. Do not place the boxes right next to each other. Two boxes that are together is the same as just one box in the cat’s mind!

• Make sure you scoop the litter box daily, and with multiple cats, scoop twice daily. Cats often refuse to use dirty boxes. Most of us avoid toilets that are full of pee and poop. Cats are even more fastidious than us humans and certainly have more delicate senses of smell, so of course they do not want to step in a box full of old feces and urine! A clean rug is much more attractive than a dirty box!

• If your litter boxes are old, they may have absorbed odors even if you regularly clean them. So, try buying new boxes.

• Make sure your litter boxes are in a place where the cat feels safe while going potty. If she is disturbed by you or your kids or another cat or dog while she is trying to potty, she will choose to use a safer location. So, move the litter box to a location where she can see the comings and goings of the other people and animals in the house. You can set up the box in the corner of a room, then surround the box with nice house plants. It will be attractive and open enough for the cat to feel safe!

• Put a litter box on each level (floor) of the house.

• Make sure you thoroughly clean all old urine spots on the rug and elsewhere. If she can smell the old urine she will think that place is a good place to potty. Use a flourescent black light to find old urine and treat all old spots with an enzymatic cleanser.

• Try putting a plastic carpet runner upside down on the places she likes to urinate....most cats don't like to walk on the "spikes" so they will avoid the covered spots.

• Put something real smelly where she likes to urinate...most cats hate the smell of citrus, so try putting citrus scented air freshener or orange peels or citrus potpourri where she urinates.

• According to Cat Behaviorist Amy Shojai- if your cat is peeing on personal items the cat is probably stressed out over something. Urinating on some object that holds your scent is calming to him. If you can eliminate the stressor, chances are good that the potty problem will end.

• If your cat is standing inside the litter box and aiming outside the box, you simply need a larger box! Try a Rubbermaid under-bed storage container as a litter box instead of the typical small box.
post #11 of 15
I don't know if anyone has suggested it, but perhaps you kitty just doesn't like the litter your using? Have you tried some boxes with differnt types of litter? Also I would suggest trying "Cat Attract" litter it has worked for people I know.
post #12 of 15
I have had this very same promblem with my female cat. I got her when she was 4 months old. She would do ok for a few days in the litter box and then she started going in the corners of my den. At first I thought it was b.c she could smell the old smell of my older cat that I had just recently put to sleep. I had two litter boxes at the time so I didn't think that was the problem. I tried everything, got a self cleaning litter box since it seemed that she would do fine until it was used too many times and wanted it cleaned, tried every litter sold in the stores even the Cat Attract, rescue remedy,feliway,cotton ball coated with pure citrus,tin foil,and finally pulled up the carpet. She moved into my bedroom corner!! I read to put the litter box there and then slowly move the litter box each day to the place that you want it for go. I did this and I don't know if it was a combination of all of the above and that or if she just finally decided to quite given me such a hard time or not but she stopped. This went on for about 4 months. I was so to the point that I was going to get rid of her so many times but I just couldn't give up on her. And I am so glad that I didn't. So just hang in there and be understanding that there will be a light at the end of the tunnel.

post #13 of 15
Thread Starter 
Thanks for all the replies.

everything seemed to be going well for about 3 days, i was giving her rescue remedy and she seemed ok.

Then one morning i got her up and she ran into the hallway and wee'd on the floor.

So i then decided when i got her up in the morning to keep putting her in the litter tray until she pee'd, which worked the first day.

But from then on she refused to use the tray first thing in the morning despite me putting her in it, instead she runs and wee's in the hall.

Everytime i block the area off she wee's in she goes somewhere else, but only ever for her first wee of the day. from then on she will use her tray.

I cant put up with this much longer, shes ruining my carpets and furniture.

Does anyone have any new suggestions?
post #14 of 15
It's only a temporary solution...but can you put down pee pads..the ones they use for dogs...in the hall for now?? How many boxes do you have....you may need a few more.

post #15 of 15
Thread Starter 
i did wonder if those pee pads would be a good idea, but i dont want to encourage her to use that area really.

I have 2 trays already
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