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post #31 of 43
got my attention too!!! i already signed it too
post #32 of 43
I was getting ready to give you a piece of my mind and tell you to GET OVER IT!! Glad I finished reading the post! I will sign!!
post #33 of 43
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Originally Posted by furryferals View Post
So I got your attention

Please click here and sign this petition

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takea...ltl=1155031737

50.0000 DOGS BEATEN TO DEATH,PLEASE PUT YOUR NAME TO THE PETITION!!
Since there is already a thread on this subject, I have merged the new one with it.
post #34 of 43
Thanks for posting that. I was going to post that two weeks ago but any political thread I start becomes kinda heated, so I gave up.

I don't usually follow PETA's advice, but I have been boycotting China for two weeks.

I know a couple of my black dogs were stolen to be eaten when I was little. However, they were Cantonese (a very specific people from a very specific of China. People in the Central China don't eat dogs.

Rabies vaccination could easily cost a person's monthly salary in China, However, I have heard that out of the 50,000 dogs slaughtered, 2% of which actually had rabies tags on them. Some of those highly-loved dogs that the owners spent a month worth of salary vaccinating had been forcefully taken from them despite protests and bludgeoned to death. That would be at least 1000 dogs wrongly slaughered. That is why I am currently boycotting Chinese goods.

By the way I believe the official designation was to kill all unvaccinated dogs, but the police was so corrupt (they get paid per dog) that they even killed dogs with rabies tags on them.

Hopefully after this tragedy people with vaccinated dogs wrongly killed would start protesting. Otherwise, why bother vaccinating?

In a country where a person is worth less than a feather, how much would a dog be worth? Why are we even debating the slaughter of 50,000 dogs when they just slaughtered 50,000 Falun Gong members? Communism is a disrespect for ALL life. Communism is the triumph of evil over good. It is the depth of despair and the extension of many horrors.

This is not the first time in China that they had done this. Two years ago they killed many dogs in Beijing due to dog overpopulation. I am not sure of the exact number, but it is rumored to be 100,000.

Here is one more article about Beijing. It seems that dog overpopulation is once again a problem:

http://www.theepochtimes.com/news/6-8-7/44682.html

About the paranoia, it is true. My relatives constantly ask me if I am ready to die for my five cats. My answer is YES.
post #35 of 43
I actually got into a huge argument with some people about this.

I don't care if they don't have money to humanly euthanize them. What they did was WRONG. I will never look at China the same way again.
This is horrible and disgusting and I am extremely angered by what they did.

When they had that horrible SARS outbreak (and god knows what else), you didn't see people pulling other people from their homes and clubbing them to death, now did we?

I can't even say anything else.. I just get myself more and more angry.
post #36 of 43
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Originally Posted by Leto86 View Post
When they had that horrible SARS outbreak (and god knows what else), you didn't see people pulling other people from their homes and clubbing them to death, now did we?

I can't even say anything else.. I just get myself more and more angry.
Actually during the SARS outbreak it was a death penalty for a doctor or nurse to leave the hospital in affected regions.

That is totally offtopic, though.

They don't have respect for either humans or animals.
post #37 of 43
There is a huge difference between Communism and China. There has never once been a true communist society in the world, aside from very small (a couple dozen) communities. Chinese policies do not represent Communist policies whatsoever. For one thing, a true communist state should develop from an affluent, industrialized society, not a poor one. But only poor states have fallen to Communist rule, and when they do, it should be a huge signal that the human condition in that country is so terrible that people would rather have a dictatorship than whatever they had before. That is, in recent human history, a Communist rule has meant only one thing: The rest of the world has failed miserably to help out with massive humanitarian, human rights, and economic disaster.

I am totally agreed. But when a country does not even respect human life at all, or freedom of thought or knowledge, how are you surprised when they have no regard for animal life either?

And incidentally, China does have enough money to euthanize them. But when an economy, and its released numbers, are fabrications by the government, you can't tell how much money they have. Just like the problems with the Iraqi currency. Supposedly, the Iraqi Dinar was worth a stable amount, nearly the same as the American dollar. Obviously, that was about the furthest from the truth. They aren't worth the paper they're printed on. But when a paranoid dictatorship is telling you what money is worth, and how much they have, the numbers are completely unreliable and usually downright lies.

Nobody in China is going to protest, because they still remember what happened last time they did. That is what happens when a society is scared of its own government. They are allowed to trample rights, and decency. Perhaps those of us in America should heed the warning. I am not talking about any particular leader, please please note that.
post #38 of 43
Communist policies have an effect on everything in China- i(notice i said communist policies, not communism, because like Zissou's mom said, there has never been a true communist country.) including their dogs....That article is just horrible. What's next? If a cat scratches it's owner- will they drown all of the cats in China in a river....or if a rabbit bites it's owner- will they slaughter all of them? People really need to get a grip. If you can't afford to properly vaccinate an animal against rabies, don't buy one! Vaccinations are a part of responsible pet ownership. Those 3 people that were bit were probably bit by feral or wild dogs, not even domesticated dogs- yet over 50,000 dogs who probably didn't even have rabies had to suffer and loose their lives because of it! Ignorance, or rather ignoring the facts- is not bliss! Rabies is preventable- look at Hawaii- there has never been a case of rabies there. It is preventable and there are vaccinations against it.The fact that China blindly turns their eye to that fact makes me sick. What makes me even more nauscious is the number of innocent children in orphanages all across China because male children are "preffered" to females! As someone who has worked around children for years, including 5 different little girls who were adopted from China, and has an enormous family- i just can't see how you can pick and choose children- children are a blessing- not a disposable product! I firmly believe that every child deserves the right to life and love...reguardless of gender. I personally believe the brunt of China's issues stem from their communist ideals that are upheld by their government. Things will not improve in the impoverished parts of China until their government makes a change for the better of China.- and that would include eliminating their communist policies. I am so saddened to hear about the deaths of those dogs....I am even more saddened about how the impoverished Chinese citizens are treated and the numbers of little girls that are dumped off in orphanages every day- if they are lucky enough to make it to the orphanages
post #39 of 43
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What makes me even more nauscious is the number of innocent children in orphanages all across China because male children are "preffered" to females

While the slaughter of those poor dogs is just unbelievable, what can you expect from a country that has "dying rooms" for their unwanted baby girls? As a mother of an adopted foreign child, I spent several years researching every country that had a foreign adoption policy. China allows only a very small percentage of female children to be internationally adopted. The majority of girls are sent to "dying rooms" that China tries to pass off as orphanages. The girls are not systematically put to death, but are given only the bare minimum of care-- just enough food to survive, no health care, no attention. If human life is such a worthless commodity, why would the Chinese government care about dogs?
post #40 of 43
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While the slaughter of those poor dogs is just unbelievable, what can you expect from a country that has "killing rooms" for their unwanted baby girls? As a mother of an adopted foreign child, I spent several years researching every country that had a foreign adoption policy. China allows only a very small percentage of female children to be internationally adopted. The majority of girls are sent to "killing rooms" that China tries to pass off as orphanages. The girls are not systematically put to death, but are given only the bare minimum of care-- just enough food to survive, no health care, no attention. If human life is such a worthless commodity, why would the Chinese government care about dogs?
I did not know this about chinese girls! I knew many were aborted, and adopted out of the country, but I did not realize many were allowed to die of neglect! Do you have some links?!?
post #41 of 43
It all just saddens me...it really does. Life is prescious. When will people start to realize that!
post #42 of 43
No sorry, I don't have any links, altho' I doubt that it would be difficult to find something on the web. As I stated, I went thru an international adoption, and there was info about adoption in China. A few years ago, I also saw reports on news-shows such as 20/20, Primetime, etc.

Later:
after a very short search I found this site: www.gendercide.org
Also:
Likewise, if a Chinese infant girl is turned over for adoption rather than being killed, she risks being placed in one of the notorious "Dying Rooms" unveiled in a British TV documentary. Chinese state orphanages have come in for heavy criticism as a result of the degrading and unsanitary conditions that usually pervade them. In one orphanage, documentary producer Brian Woods found that "every single baby ... was a girl, and as we moved on this pattern was repeated. The only boys were mentally or physically disabled. 95% of the babies we saw were able-bodied girls. We also discovered that, although they are described as orphans, very few of them actually are; the overwhelming majority do have parents, but their parents have abandoned them, simply because they were born the wrong sex." Woods estimated that "up to a million baby girls every year" were victims of this "mass desertion," deriving from "the complex collision of [China's] notorious One Child Policy and its traditional preference for sons." (See Brian Woods, "The Dying Rooms Trust".)
This is from the site I mentioned; it contains more info & links. As I stated in my OP, why would a country care about killing dogs when they so easily kill their daughters?
post #43 of 43
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well, china does have the one child law. There it is expected the male child will take care of mother and father when they are old.along with carry on the family name

With over 1 billion people they did need to do something.

the draw back is that people leave little girls out to die or drop them off so that some other family can take them,

if you read newspapers from around the world china male pop. is now having issues finding women to marry, i even saw some stuff that women where being kidnapped(sure i spelled that wrong) in some areas and being sold to as wife to someone else.

One of my friends, she been trying for years to have baby and could not.. So they got one from china, and how they where there, there was a little girl with no left hand, so my friend took both!!!!

funny part is, she was back for 6 months and found out she was pregent with twins, she went from 0 kids to 4 in under a year.

ok i will shut up now, this thread is about dogs
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