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ocicat_steph

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the Iams Eukanuba for dogs is fantastic. but the cat food i have only had problems with. its horrible for the teeth and causes UTI's and kidney problems left and right with extended use. I work at a vet and we get cats in all the time with urinary and kidney problems on Iams. I would recommend Hills Science diet if your cat isn't prone to weight gain or my favorite is Royal Canin.
 

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Originally Posted by ocicat_steph

the Iams Eukanuba for dogs is fantastic. but the cat food i have only had problems with. its horrible for the teeth and causes UTI's and kidney problems left and right with extended use. I work at a vet and we get cats in all the time with urinary and kidney problems on Iams. I would recommend Hills Science diet if your cat isn't prone to weight gain or my favorite is Royal Canin.
Do you think it's the dry or the canned Iams and Eukanuba that's causing the UTI's and kidney problems?
 

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Originally Posted by moggiegirl

Do you think it's the dry or the canned Iams and Eukanuba that's causing the UTI's and kidney problems?
well considering the wet pouches have just come out over her in the UK i would imagine it's the dry. but we haven't had the wet round enough to tell if it's made an impact. but with a cats diet it's best to have a wet and a dry food for digestion and teeth. their teeth are made for chewing! not for slurping and smacking.
my ocicat actually snacks on broccoli, asparagus, melon, mango, banana, tomato and sometimes she steals my banana peels when i'm done.
Meow Mix and Whiskas are the other no no foods. very bad for the teeth.
 

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Personally I think there are better alternatives for my kitties, but it's better than some. We won't try it because I've read that Iams runs horrible cruel tests on lab dogs and cats, and we try not to support that sort of thing.
 

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Originally Posted by reddicequeen

I use Instintive from healthypetnet wet..
ingredients
INGREDIENTS: Organic Chicken, Chicken Liver, Chicken Broth, Turkey, Chicken Meal (Preserved With Mixed Tocopherols), Shrimp, Fish Oil, Ground Agropyron Repens Grass, Calcium Sulfate, Guar Gum, Minerals (Iron Amino Acid Chelate, Zinc Amino Acid Chelate, Cobalt Amino Acid Chelate, Copper Amino Acid Chelate, Manganese Amino Acid Chelate, Sodium Selenite, Potassium Iodide), Choline Chloride, Sea Salt, Taurine, Vitamins (Vitamin E, A, D3, B12 Supplements, Thiamine Mononitrate, Niacin, D-Calcium Pantothenate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Riboflavin Supplement, Folic Acid, Biotin), Inulin, Rosemary, L-Carnitine.
Those ingredients sound really good. I wanted to read more about this food and see how much it costs, but the website isn't working for me. What is "Ground Agropyron Repens Grass"?
 

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Originally Posted by momto3cats

Those ingredients sound really good. I wanted to read more about this food and see how much it costs, but the website isn't working for me. What is "Ground Agropyron Repens Grass"?
I don't know what kind of grass it is but they're supposedly trying to create a food that's as natural to how they would eat in the wild as possible in a canned form so they included grass. I too, am eager to try this food on my cats and that's why I ordered a sample. The website is www.healthypetnet.com. If you can get to the website it's worth checking out because you can't even find this food on the pet food direct website. I just hope my cats like it.
 

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Originally Posted by spiritedstef

Personally I think there are better alternatives for my kitties, but it's better than some. We won't try it because I've read that Iams runs horrible cruel tests on lab dogs and cats, and we try not to support that sort of thing.
You might want to consider that there are two sides to every story.
www.iamstruth.com

Their video actually shows that they do not perform these cruel tests. They don't even keep their cats in cages. They live in a home like environment with cat furniture, toys, window perches, interaction from pet lovers and they have a partnership with the ASPCA who regularly come out to the Iams facility to give guidelines on how to improve conditions for the cats that are only being used for feeding studies and no other experiment.

I don't know if Iams may have supported harmful research in the past but they aren't doing that now and haven't done so for years. The radical animal rights organization who continues to accuse Iams of this cruelty is known for twisting the facts.
 

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When a food is only marginally better than say, Cat Chow, and charges nearly twice the price, because they market it as a better food and say it's "Good for Life" or something, I see it as a whole heck of a lot of marketing and I won't touch it. I don't want to pay for fancy TV commercials, I want to pay for good nutrition. So far I have yet to see a brand of food advertised on TV that I consider good enough to feed my animals.
 

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Originally Posted by fatkitties

When a food is only marginally better than say, Cat Chow, and charges nearly twice the price, because they market it as a better food and say it's "Good for Life" or something, I see it as a whole heck of a lot of marketing and I won't touch it. I don't want to pay for fancy TV commercials, I want to pay for good nutrition. So far I have yet to see a brand of food advertised on TV that I consider good enough to feed my animals.
Excellent point!!

Reddice, those foods sound fabulous, but way to expensive to feed my crew
 

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It's not only marginally better than Cat Chow. It isn't as good as it should be for the price, but I think sometimes there is a false polarity in the foods. They aren't all either "terrible" or "great". Some of them, like Iams, are somewhere in the middle.
Zissou ate 9lives for a month while staying with my sister, and she was not doing as well as she was before. She smelled, and she had an oily coat. As soon as she'd started back eating Iams she was sooo much healthier.
 

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Originally Posted by moggiegirl

You might want to consider that there are two sides to every story.
www.iamstruth.com

Their video actually shows that they do not perform these cruel tests. They don't even keep their cats in cages. They live in a home like environment with cat furniture, toys, window perches, interaction from pet lovers and they have a partnership with the ASPCA who regularly come out to the Iams facility to give guidelines on how to improve conditions for the cats that are only being used for feeding studies and no other experiment.

I don't know if Iams may have supported harmful research in the past but they aren't doing that now and haven't done so for years. The radical animal rights organization who continues to accuse Iams of this cruelty is known for twisting the facts.
Thank you for that information, I'm not a member of the organization of which you speak, but a friend passed along info from them. I appreciate your sharing that link! Makes me feel a lot better about them.
 
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