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Will Mel Gibson's arrest for alleged DUI hurt his career?

post #1 of 35
7/31/06 at 7:28am
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The article is about Mel Gibson being arrested for alleged DUI, and his supposed anti-Semitic remarks to law enforcement. It's long (a bit too long, IMO) and at the end rather provocative that the public might shun Gibson for this: http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060731/...9mBHNlYwMxNjk3
Considering all the other misdeeds that celebrities often do, this shouldn't be that big of a deal. He should face the same punishment as the rest of us for DUI, though, and if guilty, have to take a First Offender's Program.
Will this incident affect whether or not you will see his future work?
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post #2 of 35
7/31/06 at 7:53am
One word answer: Nope.
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post #3 of 35
7/31/06 at 7:54am
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Will this incident affect whether or not you will see his future work?
Only if his mug shot makes him look like Nick Nolte! Sorry, couldn't resist.

It seems a little strange that a guy gets drunk & starts insulting the Jewish community. My husband always says that liquor gives some guys b*lls, and that's when they show their true colors. This incident probably won't affect my decision to see his movies. There are very few actors whose work I would pay to see just because they are in it or had a hand in it. Gibson isn't one of them. I think he's gotten a little full of himself as the years have gone by. I liked the Mad Max/Lethal Weapon Mel; this one doesn't do much for me.
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post #4 of 35
7/31/06 at 8:37am
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It seems a little strange that a guy gets drunk & starts insulting the Jewish community. My husband always says that liquor gives some guys b*lls, and that's when they show their true colors. This incident probably won't affect my decision to see his movies. There are very few actors whose work I would pay to see just because they are in it or had a hand in it. Gibson isn't one of them. I think he's gotten a little full of himself as the years have gone by. I liked the Mad Max/Lethal Weapon Mel; this one doesn't do much for me.
I have to agree on that one. I do think he's gotten cocky, especially with all the press he got over The Passion. However, on whatever comments he supposedly made, maybe he's one of those drunks whose true inner feelings comes out. Maybe he really has a bit of a problem- there again, does it really matter? I know we as people try to be accepting of everyone and everything, but if I were drunk and mad at someone, I have no clue what might fly out of my mouth pertaining to a certain culture/race etc. just due to my own personal feeling on some situations. I'm sure people say nasty things about religions while they're drunk all the time, so I don't see why he's so special regardless of his status as an Actor or based on movies he's directed.
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post #5 of 35
7/31/06 at 8:41am
The first one didn't, so why would this one/
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post #6 of 35
7/31/06 at 9:15am
No this doesn't affect my decision to watch his movies because I wasn't to likely to be watching them anyway. I also liked Lethal Weapon and Gulliver's Travels and Braveheart and such. Ever since then, he hasn't been a good actor in anything and you couldn't pay me to watch the Passion. For one thing, I've actually read the Bible.

And Lookingglass, good point. Celebrities (some of them) behave ridiculously, because they can and it doesn't affect their careers. No such thing as bad publicity and all that. Like in the Longest Yard where he is pulled over for a DUI and hands the cops a beer, saying "I've got plenty more!". Normal people get fired for a friend having a picture of them drinking on their Facebook. Celebrities get more publicity.

Didn't we all already know that Mel Gibson is a crazy jerk who doesn't like jewish people?
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post #7 of 35
7/31/06 at 10:53am
heck NO - nowadays any publicity is good publicity!!
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post #8 of 35
7/31/06 at 11:02am
nope it wont.

but the last movie of his i went and saw...was The Patriot and i saw that cause of Heath Ledger
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post #9 of 35
7/31/06 at 6:07pm
In vino veritas certainly seems to hold true, in this case. Sean Connery's more my type, anyway
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post #10 of 35
7/31/06 at 6:56pm
Should it, No will it No. cause he makes money. The bottom line is that is all they want is money.

there is talk on the radio today that ABC is going to pull some show he is working on for them(at least they said the jewish lobby was trying to get them to, and i guess some of the high ranking people in abc are jewish)

above was all stuff they said on the news today.

If you remember in the movie passion he also has line in there that alot of people took to be anti jewish.
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post #11 of 35
7/31/06 at 7:06pm
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Originally Posted by Zissou'sMom
No this doesn't affect my decision to watch his movies because I wasn't to likely to be watching them anyway. I also liked Lethal Weapon and Gulliver's Travels and Braveheart and such. Ever since then, he hasn't been a good actor in anything and you couldn't pay me to watch the Passion. For one thing, I've actually read the Bible.

Didn't we all already know that Mel Gibson is a crazy jerk who doesn't like jewish people?
i had no problem with the passion, he did a very good job showing the final 12 hours of Christ. It i remember right, gibson is catholic(someone can help me or this part).

I do have issues with any movie that pokes fun at other people's faith, no matter what faith that is.. Since the passion did not make fun of it, and was well done. its fine.

yea, we do know that he does not like jews, he still goes along with jews killed christ.
Well someday maybe people will get over all of this bull. I know that some of famly are not happy with my wife being muslim, and some of her family hate me cause i am not .. lol lol

bottom line, as long as his movies keep making money.. no one will care.
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post #12 of 35
7/31/06 at 7:30pm
Perhaps he should remember that Jesus was, in fact Jewish, as are the vast majority of biblical characters. Hating Greek people for oppressing Christians makes about as much sense (by which I mean, it's absolutely ridiculous). I don't like his movie because it is inaccurate if you study the story in-depth, in all its different available versions, with historical and scholarly contexts (The Oxford Annotated is great for this). It is cheap and makes a spectacle out of something that, if you believe in the faith, shouldn't be. It isn't about blood and guts and hate, if anything it's the opposite.

The Hijack Ninja is now leaving....

That is so true that as long as they keep making money... well, money talks.

Someday maybe people will look for reasons to love instead of hate, and to heal instead of blame. Doubtful...
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post #13 of 35
7/31/06 at 7:45pm
yep, he did pull stuff from different areas. but since it was about the final 12 hours, then it is nothing but blood and guts and hate. i dont think there is a easy way to nail a person to a cross hang them in the air and be nice about it. That is what he wanted to show, hmm i think it called the points of the cross? i dont remember i am not catholic.

i know people that become christen(never said i could spell), because of the movie, and several that left crying.

"Someday maybe people will look for reasons to love instead of hate, and to heal instead of blame. Doubtful"

that would be a nice idea, maybe some day that will happen.
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post #14 of 35
7/31/06 at 10:59pm
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Originally Posted by theimp98
"Someday maybe people will look for reasons to love instead of hate, and to heal instead of blame. Doubtful"

that would be a nice idea, maybe some day that will happen.
it IS happening - look at all the wonderful TCS members in this site! And think how far animal rights, esp. for cats has come - several years ago, i hadn't even heard of a "no-kill" shelter! Even our county kill-shelter has a rescue group that sponsors neuters and as a result, PTS numbers are down by 91% it's a small start, I know, but it is a start
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post #15 of 35
8/1/06 at 8:09am
I was soooo disappointed when I heard about this. I expected much more from him. I did not realize his anti-semitic feelings.

I would think that any Christian would realize that the Jews are the chosen people of God.

I most definitely think this will harm his career.


But Jews did kill Christ, can't argue with that, his own people killed him.
Fulfilled prophecy.
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post #16 of 35
8/1/06 at 11:14am
I'm surprised that there are those who are unaware of his views. They were widely publicized during the whole "Passion" hoopla. His father is a vehement anti-semitic, and Mel, when pressed, would not deny he shared these views. They are not Roman Catholic, but belong to a small "fundamentalist" splinter sect of Catholicism.

This is the same man who believes that his wife, the mother of his children, will go to hell because she is not Catholic...even though he himself admits that she is a better person than he is.

This is the man who, when questioned about his views about Jews, said that he has "Jewish friends", and that he "prays for them".

He's a treat alright. That is part of the reason I never went to see the Passion, and I'll never rent it. I refuse to put one nickel in that man's pocket. He'll never miss it, I know, but I'll know. The other reason is that critically it's not a very good movie.

So what he said when he was drunk? I believe he meant every single word of it.
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post #17 of 35
8/1/06 at 11:36am
I can forgive him his drunk driving. I don't approve of drinking at all, let alone drinking and driving. However, I can forgive that. After all he's only human.

However, being a Jewish person myself, I don't forgive his hateful remarks. In fact I'm so sick and tired of anti semitic remarks everywhere. There is a guy I work with, who's always telling me, how Jews are the most hated people on earth, and that we (being Jewish people) should let Lebonon do whatever they want in this war that is going on, because No one will be on our side, because we're Jewish. Then to hear Mel Gibson spout off all of that Anti Semitism, it just infuriates me. I cannot forgive him for hating me, and my people for no reason that we can help.
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post #18 of 35
8/1/06 at 1:12pm
I think what's going on in Lebanon has gotten a lot of people upset, and led them to (over)react. Two of my colleagues (one British, one Greek; you can't get "real" opinions from actual Germans due to the historical burden of the Holocaust) were going on and on today about Israel "protecting itself from women and children", and weren't too pleased when I pointed out that Hezbollah started the bombings, many of the victims in northern Israel were Arabs, and that Iran was conducting a "war by proxy". What a mess.
Will this hurt Gibson? I doubt it. Michael Jackson probably should have been ostracized when the first reports of pedophilia became public, but that wasn't the case.
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post #19 of 35
8/1/06 at 6:15pm
you know this is one thing that has bugged me for a long time.
why do people care what the "stars" do or say. they are just here to give you entertainment. i for one dont care about there personal life, or any of there views.
really up until 80 years ago hotels and such had signs up that said, no actors allowed.

gibson made some dumb statments that people are reacting to just cause he is gibson. most normal people know that is statment was crazy,

Roman Polański fled the us for having sex with a minor(i think she was 14) but yet people still go see his movies. the list goes on and on, of media people who say and do dumb things,

lol really lets remember they are there just to Entertain us normal people
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post #20 of 35
8/1/06 at 6:26pm
The reason we can care about what famous people say is that, like it or not, there are thousands of people (mostly minors) who idolize them. Sometimes this is used for good (like Angelina Jolie's campaign for refugees) sometimes it's neutral (like Madonna's interest is kabbalah that has sparked interest in people who never would have heard of it) and sometimes its negative (like when certain people dress promiscuously and suddenly all the 12-year-old clothing stores are full of miniskirts and belly shirts). Yes, it is parents who should be influencing children, but it's impossible to deny that celebrities do too.

No, we shouldn't care about their personal life. I don't really, the stuff about who is dating who or whatever, but racist remarks shouldn't be tolerated.

When you go see a movie, you're in a sense hiring someone to entertain you. I wouldn't go to a doctor who was anti-semitic. I wouldn't go to a store if I don't agree with their labor policies (ie, Walmart), so why should I hire someone to entertain me who is anti-semitic?
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post #21 of 35
8/1/06 at 6:31pm
Well, I think its disgusting. I don't care what he came out and said afterwards to backpedal as quickly as possible, it has long been known that Mel Gibson is racist, sexist and most of all anti-Semitic. It matters what he says because he is in a position where a lot of people will get to hear what he says, and that is why even though he's a celebrity and his opinions shouldn't matter, they do matter, because of the widespread publicity and therefore widespread notice they get.

I haven't watched one of his movies for years because of his attitudes - although I did watch The Passion - and was sick for days afterwards.

I think he is a vile man, probably not in all things, but certainly in his outdated and terribly prejudiced opinions, and I hope that the world begins to see him for what he is, and stop lining his pockets as a result. But it won't happen. If our prime minister in this country can lie and lie and lie, and people will still vote for him, I don't think a giant movie star with surface charisma and entertainment value will suffer one bit for his transgressions.
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post #22 of 35
8/1/06 at 7:58pm
I am not Jewish myself, but work in an office that is primarily Jewish and consults with those who are primarily Jewish as well. The opinions since the incident have been split down the middle.

Half said that they would no longer endorse him or his projects (half of that haven't done so such since the first news of him being anti-semetic years ago). The other half said that while they do not agree with his actions or words that they are his perogative and that they will still continue to watch his movies should they so feel the need.

One co-worker broke it down and said, "If we didn't watch movies or listen to music because we don't agree with the actors or singers personal beliefs and morals we would limit ourself to a very small library." I have to say I agree with that.

I don't condone nor agree with what he did. Words of hatred make me sick to my stomach, but I don't think he will suffer for it careerwise.
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post #23 of 35
8/1/06 at 8:29pm
hmm this is a toughie!

I absolutely love all of Mel Gibson's films and own many (including the passion). Because I'm younger, I never really heard of him being anti-semetic before. I don't really know how to react to it.

I disagree with what he did and said, but it's not for me to judge. I guess he will have to recieve his judgment one day from who ever is his maker.

I don't think it will hurt his career in the long run. I personally don't like what he did in his personal life, but that is not why I enjoy his films. I go to see his character, which is not him. I will probably still continue to watch his films.
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post #24 of 35
8/2/06 at 3:02am
I think the public cares too much about celebrities. They put their pants on one leg at a time just like we do. Anyhow Mel Gibson isn't God, he's entitled to make mistakes just like anyone else and with the sordid things that some of these others do a DUI is a walk in the park after playing a game of Candy land with a six year old to me! Esp. seeing as though there are so much more pressing issues, like war, missles, homeless people, and what not. What is the most amazing thing to me is that people who claim to love God are the first ones to judge someone yet the bible says, "Judge not lest ye be judged" Hmph, in fact it's mentioned so many times about not judging you would think we would get the point. Thank God for mercy! Anyhow!

Now I am not diminishing the importance of driving sober, but I'm just saying if that stops you from watching his movies then you'd better get to your closet and sell your tv quick! 'Cause that aint all that's happening in the world JACK!
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post #25 of 35
8/2/06 at 3:12am
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Originally Posted by ms_joshica
I think the public cares too much about celebrities. They put their pants on one leg at a time just like we do. Anyhow Mel Gibson isn't God, he's entitled to make mistakes just like anyone else and with the sordid things that some of these others do a DUI is a walk in the park after playing a game of Candy land with a six year old to me! Esp. seeing as though there are so much more pressing issues, like war, missles, homeless people, and what not. What is the most amazing thing to me is that people who claim to love God are the first ones to judge someone yet the bible says, "Judge not lest ye be judged" Hmph, in fact it's mentioned so many times about not judging you would think we would get the point. Thank God for mercy! Anyhow!

Now I am not diminishing the importance of driving sober, but I'm just saying if that stops you from watching his movies then you'd better get to your closet and sell your tv quick! 'Cause that aint all that's happening in the world JACK!
I don't think its the drinking or driving or even doing them both at the same time that people are discussing here - its his anti-Semitic comments upon being pulled over and arrested that are the issue. I certainly agree that celebrities get too much attention, but this is a more serious issue because he IS in the public eye and these kinds of comments are just not acceptable for someone with a lot of influence in the world - whether they should have that influence or not.
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post #26 of 35
8/2/06 at 3:33am
But you know what just b/c someone is in the public eye doesn't mean that have to be in YOUR public eye. I wasn't really discussing his drinking and driving so much as I was the fact that he is human and entitled to make mistakes. No matter what his job position. The bible says to whom much is given much is required, but we as human beings dont have the right to judge no matter what. Now I'm not trying to be funny, but people need to stop using celebrities as crutches for why the world is going mad and look into the home first. I mean lets be real, if we want role models for our children, nieces, nephews, etc. we need to be that and stop depending on the unreliable celebrity feel for it all. IMO Mel Gibson is a man, anti-sematic or not, he is human, just like you and I and that is the base where we all need to start when examing one another.
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post #27 of 35
8/2/06 at 3:37am
Well said, and I agree. But I do think it is unrealistic to never judge anybody, otherwise people in this world who do the wrong thing (and not just things they say, but things they DO) would get away with anything, through our fear of not judging. Pointing the finger, however, is a different thing, and I'm guessing that's what you mean.
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post #28 of 35
8/2/06 at 3:42am
There is a difference in judging and using wisdom though When you judge you are basing all your actions on how you treat that person from now on based on what they've done. Hence, going to see his movies, etc. etc. Wisdom says I can't let a killer run free on the street w/ out punishment or he will hurt others, but inspite doesn't change THEIR OWN HEART b/c of it. That is what I mean. You know what I mean you don't allow your own heart to be turned, blackened and become hateful. B/C believe me there are some bad bad people out there and I'll be dog gone if they need to run free, but I don't have to fill my heart with hate to ensure their punishment. Same with Mel he needs to be punished for the DUI b/c he could have really hurt someone, but I don't have to fill my heart with hate for him because of it.
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post #29 of 35
8/2/06 at 3:46am
Good point! Although I don't hate him, I just think he's an idiot
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post #30 of 35
8/2/06 at 3:47am
lol, yeah that was pretty stupid but I'm 31 we don't even want to talk about my dumb stunts
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