Two dumped little babies.

I have 18 cats..... plus my two little ones I brought home today...

Selling cats?..........I dont' think so.. If I was inclined to finding a home for one of my "beloved animals", it would NEVER be to make a buck.....

Originally Posted by jcribbs

How can you say no when they are so needy? I just can't..

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Sometimes, sweety, you have to. I've seen it happen so several people and two shelters. And then everyone and all the animals suffer. You are in a fortunate position to be able to provide the shelter - but even it, with additions, will have limits. At a certain point, unless you're full time (and even then), you need help. When you've got 10 cats that needs meds twice a day, three cats that need eye-drops twice a day, and a number of kittens that need to be bottle fed, just medicating the animals and cleaning litterboxes can take all day. What happens to the kittens? We've been there. Reliable volunteers are hard to find. Been there too. So there is a point at which you will (or should) be able to find yourself to be able to say "no."

Everybody has a different limit. But sometimes the space and the animals provide it, even if your personality doesn't.

PLEASE don't take me wrong! I think you are an incredible, incredible person! And hubby is SUCH a dear to be so willing to help.

When it's done right, it certainly possible to care for many animals. But you do have to take precautions and have things set up correctly. And a place for newcomers and a sick ward, when you're dealing with so many cats, is really something that needs to be planned for.

Just... Lovin' ya and worrying about you at the same time.

Laurie

Oh yeah - more thought. I can't imagine you selling cats for profit either, lol!

However, I think MAYBE what she meant was, when adopting cats, it is ALWAYS recommended that an adoption form be used, and that money be charged. There's costs involved with the care of a cat, and if they've seen a vet, been vaccinated, and/or sterilized, anyone who truly wants the responsibility of a cat is willing to pay for those costs or to defray those costs. It's one way to screen out people who want cats to train attack dogs, for target practice, or for medical research. Or god knows what other horrible things. Or just "want a cat" and haven't thought about what goes into caring for it. And that's bad enough!

Laurie

Jenn, it might make you feel just slightly better to know that the horse thing was a joke he stole from Larry the Cable Guy. Maybe not much better, but the odds are that he's just trying to pull it off like it's his own joke...

Larry the cable guy??? I guess I better see that movie!! I feel like an idiot........ And he did pull it off.........!! hehe I'm so glad you told me that.

And..........I haven't seen any cats where we're moving. whew...

I will try to close my door........I think I've reached my limit. My son has a white persian. He would love the little gal with the bushy tail. I will ask him and his wife about it.

But I don't know anyone else.....

I have actually thought about sheltering cats before but I think it would get out of hand in our household and would not be a good idea.

If I can just stay like I am and not increase the number any more, I will be fine...

And I need someone to worry. I don't worry enough!

And nay, if I wanted to sell my cats........none would buy my cats. They are all cripples, three legged, and wild..... with a few babies thrown in.........

I think I will have to stay just this way. What I have is no trouble. They prefer outdoor life to being in the house so they are never underfoot. The only ones in the house all the time is Yellow [crippled gimp kitty], JJ the three legged wonder, and the babies. The rest are out mostly except at night time. I bring them in before bed but even then a couple are always outside. At 5:30am, they all go outside again. A little herd of cats... They wait because they know when 5:30 is here.

When we get moved and have the enclosure, life will be simple. They will probalby be outdoor most of the time. I am looking forward to NOT worrying about them. It's nice to have someone worry about me..

Right now, I have a means to get 3 feral male, a stray female and her three babies fixed for 15.00 each. So I don't have to worry about that. And with me working now, shots are a piece of cake. After we move, our bills will only be about 300.00 a MONTH total. Because everything is paid for. And our combined incomes [since I am working now] is approx 600.00 a week plus my bonuses. So with what we make AFTER we move, we will be fine with our critters..

All the others, 14 or so..... I have paid for and gotten fixed and given them their shots over the last three -six years. Expensive but worth it. I did not know about low cost spay neuter until recently... Plus our three dogs are all fixed with their shots. So the last 5-6 years, we have fixed quite a few animals.

I am moving 20 cats with us when we move that will live in the shelter unless my son wants the one with the bushy tail.

I probably won't be able to catch two of the feral males to et them fixed on the low cost program even though it is approved. And if I can catch them, I am not going to move them from their area after fixing them. Husband and I discussed this. They are going to stay in their area, which breaks my heart but is necessary for the well being of what I have......which is enough.. I have never thought I would TNR but I guess I am. But food wise, I am worried about them. What will they do? And even the poor little possoms eat on my porch. They are nearly tame. I can walk outside and sit by them a couple feet away while they chow down on kitty food and then amble over and get a drink of water. The cats are so used to them they eat with them.

Our move will be within the month..... Not more than 4 weeks.

They had an easy night...... They are using their litter box with no trouble and eating good.

I put frontline plus on them so they are flea free. I fell asleep on the couch last night and got up this morning with the darker kitten "Spice" on my feet.

Spice is a little corker. The others don't know what to think of her. She is all over the place. She loves every cat here.

Sugar slept in a box with packing stuff in it.

But they are both very active and playful with my kittens and with my other big cats.

They seem to be settling in. They are doing great too. All the other cats seem to like them. JJ has even been grooming them. He has claimed them.. Here they are with Hank and Honey. They are real skinny under that hair. I figure they were wormy so I wormed them this morning. They eat constantly trying to catchup.

How could someone have dumped them? And how could my boss not want them? It makes me mad! I did not go check on the others. I don't want to know. I am going to suggest to my boss to take them to the pound. Right now, they live around his house and they are being fed by the brother... I can't do any more than what I am doing.

Ahhh they are darling, you do have a Heart of Gold I would to, I can't beleive people are so cruel. I was in Petsmart today and the gal checking leaned over to her left side and said these babies are jealous because you must have alot of kitties to feed, she had 2 babies they could not have been at most 3 weeks old she found them in there parking lot in 113 degree weather, no water no momma nothing, Some other person saw a man drop them off and got his license number she's going to turn him in, these poor babies have to be bottle feed they were so tiny, a little orange and white and a black one both girls, she kept them at work so she can take care of them. The problem isnt lots better is it, I hate to even go to that shopping center where I got all the ones I rescued 16 of them, I kept 6 had 2, I am still beat up from all that, I love mine to death and I just do not understand why people do what they do...I hope you can figure out something good for them they look very sweet, I'm just glad you dont live in california I be saying where do you live

Aww Jenn your an Angel ,in every sense of the word

Thank you for taking in those little kitties ,I hope and pray you can find the others.

It sounds to me that it may be your boss who might have dumped these poor souls.
Its out in the country and these cats just 'happen' to be dumped
He must know how you feel about cats.so why did he say get them or he would shoot them?

Naah he sounds like a right and it sounds like they were his cats and he wants rid of them

I live in SW Missouri close to the Arkansas line........ in a little town called Cape Fair. It is just barely on the map..

Population on the weekend is about 400. During the week, about a 100... And that's due to the fishermen who fish on the weekend. It's right on a lake.

Are you hinting around you would like these kittens if I lived in California???..........hehe They are sweet and I have never seen such cuties. My cat toe was a beautiful kitten and he is a beautiful adult cat too. He reminds me of the long haired one except the color is different and her tail is bushier than his was.. She already has a few guard hairs too.

And I'm glad someone got that man license number. Hopefully in Ca someone will do something. Here it is hardly a crime... You end up keeping the rescues like me... It's hard not to.. I get attached real easy..

Furryferals, you might be right. My boss and his brother knew I had 18 cats and knew I was going to build an enclosure as well for my own cats. I have thought about this since yesterday wondering if they set me up to take the babies they didn't want. A couple days before the babies were at work, the wife told me her son was alergic to cats so they could never bring them in. At that time no mention was made that kittens had been dumped. I didn't hear about that until the day I took them home. It chaps me when I think they were kept in a tiny cage outside elevated in the air against the house.

This man has no telling how many horses. They are all fat with dirty water in their water barrell. One has a broken back that is in a healing process. We feed them carrots during our lunch break and talk to them.

He also raises german shepards for policemen. His is retiring his sire and dam and has two 6 months old that are kept in a pen AWAY from the house. Their pen is about 10x10 with nothing but dirt in it and two large dog houses. The dogs can't do anything but walk around their dog houses and sit down or lay down. They can't run or play because there is not room. It is sad. They are all taken care of physically as far as food and water but that's all. None have any type of human nurturing at all. He told me once he should get them out and play with them a little. Duh............is he just now figuring that out?

It was probably a set up... But that's ok..... I don't mind. They are better off with someone will will nurture them a little and pet them. I asked the brother if they had been treated for fleas since they were outside and he said NO, his brother treats the whole yard.

"Does that make sense"?....

And yeah, they knew how I felt about cats. So the shooting and the guns they take to work to show them off just primed me more than likely. Telling me they would shoot them was a sure fire way to get me to take them. I wouldn't have been able to stand it.

And we'll see what transpires with the other two... If they are sitting under my car Mondy evening, I will know definately it was a set up. I think one of them is a long haired grey kitten. Looks like the other long haired one except for the color. I heard the wife talking about it. I have no idea about the 4th one.

Originally Posted by jcribbs

I live in SW Missouri close to the Arkansas line........ in a little town called Cape Fair. It is just barely on the map..

Population on the weekend is about 400. During the week, about a 100... And that's due to the fishermen who fish on the weekend. It's right on a lake.

Are you hinting around you would like these kittens if I lived in California???..........hehe They are sweet and I have never seen such cuties. My cat toe was a beautiful kitten and he is a beautiful adult cat too. He reminds me of the long haired one except the color is different and her tail is bushier than his was.. She already has a few guard hairs too.

And I'm glad someone got that man license number. Hopefully in Ca someone will do something. Here it is hardly a crime... You end up keeping the rescues like me... It's hard not to.. I get attached real easy..

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It is hard not to get attached to them, I had momma ( sissy ) in my siggy who had 5 baby girls when I brought her home, and she was pregrant when took her to be spayed, had all of them done all 16 of them, spayed, neutered, 12 females 4 males, shots, tested, wormed, the whole smear, I was so lost trying to figure what to do, I made some phone calls to a few places like Actors and Friends for animals they payed for almost all the spay and neuter, plus the vet only charged $25 for females and $15 for the boys, and I got private money donated through other rescues and a place here close to where I live called H.O.P.E Helping out pets everyday, they do mostley shelter rescue, but they gave me a donation also and friends and family. The gal that works there is a very decated person to the animals, and I felt like I was defeated, feeding, trapping, bringing them home, getting them to the vet, It took me a year by myself, with the help of a wonderful hubby who built me an enclouser, and got his butt kicked and bite a few times when we were getting them to the vet, I went to that shopping center parking lot every day for a year and cried everytime I left there, I didn't know anything about ferals, but they weren't all that bad mostely scared. This site was so much help I don't think I could have done it with TCS. twelve out of sixteen of that group are all related, sissy, miniman, Ziggy, Zazzy, Zinger and some from the first group, So I don't think I could do it again and stay together, its a very emotionally draining deal. But she told me Lois there's a place in heaven for people like us, and I'm sure your included for what you do, it's not for glory or pats on the back it's for the Love of the animals isn't it? I have never had such loving sweet cats I know they appericate it all, and that's all that matters.. Good luck I hope you keep them if you can..

I'll keep them............... I wouldn't have brought them home otherwise... They are so darn sweet. They purr everytime I pick them up. They played all day yesterday and today they have slept most of the day. And they are unafraid of my other cats. They walk amist the dogs and cats like they were born in this house. They have no fear..

And I agree with you. It's all about love and it's only about love. Homeless animals just get to me. And yes, mine appreciate homes as well.

I remember when Mama first started coming around. I could tell she was a dumped pregnant stray. And she had been someones pet. She was very tame and sweet and when I would go outside, she would rub herself on my legs wanting some attention. When I went to work one evening, leaving a little late naturally, she had had her kittens on my porch in a box. I tucked them in and worried about them my whole shift. When I got home that night at 11pm, I brought mama and her 5 kittens in the house and gave them a room for privacy. She came right in. She knew she needed help. One baby was injured and died in less than 24 hrs. I tried to bottle feed him but he was too weak and didn't make it. When I found him he was still warm and she was laying on him and as horrible as it sound I tried CPR on him to try and save him so I could get him to the vet but he never responded. He was solid silver and very beautiful. I buried him in my front yard beside another kitten that a dog had killed that I had buried the year before... It still chokes me up to think about it. My husband was working out of state and I had no one there with me. It was horrible. But I kept Mama and got her fixed and I kept two of her babies. Angie, and Dovey. My son kept one and named him Tigger. Tigger was going to be a house kitty and he got out and when they were trying to catch him, a car hit him. They took him to a 24 hr vet in Missouri and the vet said he was just bruised and would be ok. So they kept in isolated and on his medicine so he could heal. No bones were broken. He lived three days. He was eating good, pooping good and they got up on the third day and he was dead. It made my son so mad that the vet said he was ok. My son said he would have rather put tigger to sleep than have him suffer three days with them thinking everything was ok... My son's family was so sad. They loved Tigger. The last kitten, Rowdy, who I also planned on keeping passed as well due to something with it's bladder. He stayed at the vet the last two days of his life. He was suffering and I had to make a hard decision. He was going to have to have a cathether for the rest of his life. A nerve going to his bladder was paralyed and he was in terrible pain. It was horrible to see. He would cry and cry. He was my little baby Rowdy man and I will never forget him.. I suspect my sister rat terrier bit him over the water bowl. There was no broken skin but when Rowdy initally screamed, him and Sam were by the bowl and Rowdy's back was wet.. That's what I think happened anyway. But he was never the same. He was 5 weeks old and was being fed on an IV drip.. He could not poop either. I never babysitted Sam again. Losing Rowdy iin that way was possibly the hardest loss I have ever experienced. My husband never got to know Rowdy guy... He was a bundle of pure energy and joy.

But this is mama and the two I have now. And they are all so extremely sweet. The girls are going on two years old now. They were born April 13th, 2005. It is a day I will never forget. And I'm sorry for going on about all this. It was just a very emotional time. Losing two babies in a close proxomity of time was very difficult.










These two and Mama are very special to me...... Dovey was the runt and the most active next to Tigger. They were buds. She is a very dominate little girl. Angie is a lovey cat. She was the biggest one. Her name initially was Angel but then I started calling her Angadena and it changed to Angie.... I have never known another cat named Angela. When I call her outside, in my high pitched human cat voice........"Angadena".........and here she comes. All mine end up with Dena on the end. Dovelenadena.........hehe She comes when I say it too... Dovey is a big talker. If I talk to her, she talks back to me... Angie still likes sleeping on top of me. She is slowly migrating to the living room or my feet. But I have had them since they were less than a day old.

I blamed myself for Rowdys death. I thought Sam was a dog who liked cats and I felt absolutely safe with him around my kittens. My sister had several cats. I never thought this would happen. But it did and I grieved for that little guy... He looked like a little striped raccoon. He was little fur ball. After this happened he could hardly stand up that he wasn't screaming. His mother cat ignored him after his injury so she probably knew he wouldn't make it. The vet was closed and I took him the first thing the next morning and I slept on the floor by him with him in a dog crate so I could keep an eye on him and give him a reassuring touch.......

And this is enough memory lane for me. Jeez....

Tell your boss I will humanly euthanize him for free.

Just kidding of course.

First it's drowning; now shooting them? What the heck was he going to shoot these little kittens with? a shotgun? Humans!

With all the educational programs about the treatment of animals--heck, even on the tellyvision--you'd think this type of thing would be a thing of the past, but it's not. I really despise people sometimes....

Lots of goodness, long life, safety, and health to these little ones.

Done!! I will tell him in the morning. It was a shotgun he bought a couple days before all this. Where did the drowning come in at though? That's news to me... I'm fixing to reread the thread and see if I had a typo.....

And the babies will be fine as wine! And I also much prefer animals to people. They are a lot more honest in every way... Emotionally, they play no games. They are always glad to see ya. They expect nothing and are happy for what they get.. People should be like that!

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Done!! I will tell him in the morning. It was a shotgun he bought a couple days before all this. Where did the drowning come in at though? That's news to me... I'm fixing to reread the thread and see if I had a typo.....

And the babies will be fine as wine! And I also much prefer animals to people. They are a lot more honest in every way... Emotionally, they play no games. They are always glad to see ya. They expect nothing and are happy for what they get.. People should be like that!

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I alway's say that I perfer animals over most people, I even told my daughter they don't ask me for new clothes car, gas money, I don't have to try and live up to what other meowey's do And your so right I have never had lap cats or cats that really liked to be loved on like these ones I rescued, that's why I know they think I'm absolutely MARVLOUSSS and I say the same about them, first time I ever really raised babies, It is emotional to see what happens to so many of them, I can't read Rainbow Bridge very often it breaks my Heart so much, I can't stand to see one dead in the road, It just makes me want to come home and hug all of mine, Sometimes I wish I werent so soft Hearted I really do. I have even thought what if something were to happen to me, I know my hubby couldn't do it, I am the person who made a decision to get them bring them home so I feel so very responsible for them, I often wondered did I do the right thing, and I just tell my self if it was or not I had to do it, I said when I finally got mommy and babies I felt like I had been on the worse airplaine ride for a year and that plane finally landed safe..We could go on and on couldn't we ? The work is lots but the Love is double.

I am totally in agreement................totally.

I checked on the other two kittens today and got the truth. The 4 kittens were not dumped. It seems my boss and his wife picked them several weeks back from a "free kittens" ad on the road. They had them a while evidently changed their minds or the husband changed his mind without telling the wife. Since they were out of town, it was put to the wife that they must have run off??? Now how dumb is that? I see this woman every single day I work. The kids are attached to the cats but one is allergic and his little eyes swell if he is around them. He is three yrs old.

So, right now, the two kittens are safe. They are not shooting the kittens but they "stressed to me" how dangerous it was for the babies at their house. Bologny!

So possibly after we move......... I might take them but not now...

When I took the other two, everyone knew what was going on except the wife. They let her think the babies had run off. I found this out because I told her how good they were doing and she said "YOU HAVE THEM???" She had been so worried and her husband and her brother n law did not tell her. She is glad I have them. I could hear her and her husband arguing over the fact she did not know and no one told her today. The were in the office behind closed doors but she told me she was so thankful and glad that I had them....... Those dumb men!

So, my two new kittens are safe and their litter mates are safe as well....... She told her kids that the kittens got a new home and are living in a kitty castle.... she did not want them to feel bad but she does not want them back due to her little son.