Oh my this is just awful

http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/hybriddogs.htm

Makes me sick. Nothing more wrong then "designer" dogs...

Plus check out that Sheltiedoodle. That is one messed up looking dog!

Yea, they all look like mutts... which they are. At least it says "these are not purebred dogs" at the beginning of each one.

This one got me though-- Taco Terrier For real?

It's also weird how if there are pictures of more than one of a "breed" they all look different. Talk about BYB. Do they know how many mixed breeds are in shelters who look just like these!

What's really sad is that in maybe 10-20 years these "designer breeds" could become the purebreds of today. They're working hard on the goldendoodles/labradoodles etc.

I think it's absolutely stupid. People who own these dogs have them so they can tell people that they have them. It has nothing to do [in my oppinion] with superior health or temperment, because they don't have either. We've got labradoodles that come in with severe skin allergies, you want a dog with allergies, go get a lab.

It's so funny also because my childhood friend had a cockapoo... you know back in the day when "poos" weren't the fad. It's amazing now how people are like "OMG I want one!"

Designer breeds are just a get rich quick scheme. People selling mutts for thousands of dollars. I don't think these designer breeds are any better than me taking my dogs [two 100% mutts] and breeding them with two other mixed breed dogs.

I have two Labradoodles who are the loves of my life. That being said, I will argue for hours about the beginnings and benefits of Labradoodles. They are a `breed' that I am convinced will be recognised by the AKC not too far down the track. They are a combination that works beautifully, they are magnificent dogs, and they were bred deliberately for a reason.

The only thing that makes me sad about the Labradoodle is that it gave birth to the new swathe of designer dog `breeds' around, which to me is truly disgusting. I have no problem with people trying to create a new breed or a genuine cross-breed when there is a valid and genuine purpose behind it, as there was with the Labradoodle.

But to cross dogs willy-nilly, because of a fad or because its trendy and particularly to make a quick buck, is truly repellant and unfortunately I do think the Labradoodle is responsible for that. It is truly a shame, they are such wonderful beautiful dogs, and yet anything people see that they can emulate to make money, to promote a gimmick, is just a terrible thing for the dog world as a whole.

I would do anything I could to stop the spread of F1 crosses that is sprouting like a noxious weed all over the world, but I would never protest the existence of the Labradoodle. That was a great idea and has achieved a wonderful new breed, albeit an `unrecognised' one.

I do have to say that I've given my share of lectures to people who have blithely asked me if I intend to breed them. NO WAY. They are neutered and have been since they were six months old. No BYBreeding here. Unfortunately not everyone has the knowledge or understanding, and just see $$$$ every time they think of crossing a poodle with anything. Its a terrible mess and a real black mark on the breeding world, but I don't see how it will ever be stopped now, too many people are on the bandwagon

Originally Posted by CherokeeDreams

It's funny. Almost 20 years ago, I had a "cockapoo" that we got for free. These days, you spend, what, $400-500 on one?

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I know!! Last year there was a guy in town that had chiweiner pups and of course I just HAD to get one!! And best of all she was *FREE*!! Now, I see that they are a new designer breed and costs lots of $$$$.

I hope you gave him a talking to on the subject of spaying/neutering!!
I hate free puppies as much as I hate the idea of BYB puppies (not the puppies, just how they came about and what the majority of these dogs and puppies will go through in their lives).

They all come from the same source, except that one wants to unload them a bit faster, or some other strange reason..

I even hate these mixes being called "breeds". These aren't "breeds"!!
They are mixed dogs. Anyone with two breeds of unaltered dogs can make one with equally unpredictable results.


Sad. Sad. Sad...

why oh why are people doing this????? There are tons of dogs like this sitting in shelters in EVERY state and you have people deliberatly crossing these.

I'd like to cross post this to our labrador message board. We deal with posts on labradoodles a lot; I didn't imagine how horrible this problem is.

I clicked on the Afalab - afagan hound and lab - that POOR pup - its really ugly.

BTW we are totally against the labradoodle as well as poodle breeders are. They are NOT non-shedding/hypo allergenic as many breeders of these mutts claim. And they are NOT consistent with any type. I own a lab. Also we have found out that the original intentions while good, didn't pan out and the original creators in Australia have adandoned the idea because they were NOT consistant.

Originally Posted by GoldenKitty45

I'd like to cross post this to our labrador message board. We deal with posts on labradoodles a lot; I didn't imagine how horrible this proble is.
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I know that lab people are really up in arms everywhere about the labradoodle phenomenon! I see at least 3-4 labradoodle ads a week (and they are the horrible.."I have pups all the time!" ads)...and at least a few other of the glorified mixes ads as well. I ALWAYS want to call them up and give them a piece of my mind!

To bad the labradoodle is what started it all! They are the most annoying, see them the most, and anything-poo. rrgggg. Stop breeding these mutts people!!

Originally Posted by Jen

To bad the labradoodle is what started it all! They are the most annoying, see them the most, and anything-poo. rrgggg. Stop breeding these mutts people!!

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Actually, the cockapoo has been around since the 50's or 60's. The labradoodle has been around since the 80's and is just in the same category as the cross breeds that haven't been recognized or fail to breed true...both are still mixed breeds...

I totally understand that people can love these dogs, just like I love my cat, a pretty little moggy girl. But I don't understand how anyone could call them a breed. If anything it's an "unbreed" because usually breeds come about when people select for characteristics and such and refine it. Taking two separate breeds and mating them is unbreeding them back into mutts. I have no problem with mixed-breed dogs, in fact I will never own a purebred anything in my life unless it is a rescue, but why pay so much money for one when they have always been in shelters waiting for someone to love them.

IMO, anyone who breeds these is just a BYB. They certainly aren't doing it to make the breed better. Since, you know, it's not a breed.

Really there's nothing wrong with mixed breeds there just that 2 breeds mixed toghther. There still loving and heart warming dogs just like an expensive pure-bred.

No, there isn't anything wrong with the dogs. There is something wrong with the people breeding them, making false claims about them, and making money off of basically backyard breeding.

Look at Zissou. She's certainly a mutt cat. And I love her with all my heart. No animal is inherently better than any other animal, purebred, three-legged, moggy, mutt, blind, old, young, etc. It's just incredibly sad that there are so many mixed breeds crowded into cages in shelters, and being put to sleep for no reason but lack of a home, and these people breed dogs on purpose, for money, selfishly.

It is the people contributing to overpopulation by breeding "designer" dogs for money that I have a serious problem with.

Yea i agree its not fair to these poor animals. The go threw so much and get put to sleep because selfish people. There not helping anything but there wallets, think of how many puppy mills there are in the world.

Originally Posted by Zissou'sMom

IMO, anyone who breeds these is just a BYB. They certainly aren't doing it to make the breed better. Since, you know, it's not a breed.

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Of course they're not a breed yet! No domestic dog was a `breed' until it was recognised and registered. And look at the Bengal cat - if you want to go into its history you will discover much that might surprise you.

I am not defending those who BYB labs and poodles to get `Labradoodles' - they are just F1 crosses like the rest. But I still hold to the belief that this one day will be recognised as a breed in its own right. The reason it is not yet is one that has already been stated - they do not breed true, there are plenty of inconsistencies and the claims that they do not shed are not consistent either (my Labradoodles shed - well, Ruby does, Chester doesn't, so yep - inconsistent!!).

However, all breeds had to start somewhere. All dogs came from wolves, so we didn't have breeds intially. They all had to start somewhere and all came from mixing dogs to promote their best qualities and eliminate their undesirable qualities. It is naive to say that the Labradoodle is not a `breed' - no, its not, but as soon as its recognised and starts to show some consistency, it will be

Please do not take this as an insult to your dogs. Whether or not any animal is a "breed" or not has nothing to do with the value, goodness, etc of a dog or a cat. I am not actually a big fan of purebred anything in general, although I don't talk about it. So I do not hold these beliefs out of purebred snobbery or whatever. I honestly think that it's wrong.

If someone said "I want to breed my Himilayan and my Ocicat together and sell the kittens for 500$" would you think that was right? Just because a Labrador and a Poodle together is more common doesn't make it more right.

Yea i agree with Zissou's its wrong to breed just for money. Period, pure-bred or not its wrong.

Originally Posted by Zissou'sMom

Please do not take this as an insult to your dogs. Whether or not any animal is a "breed" or not has nothing to do with the value, goodness, etc of a dog or a cat. I am not actually a big fan of purebred anything in general, although I don't talk about it. So I do not hold these beliefs out of purebred snobbery or whatever. I honestly think that it's wrong.

If someone said "I want to breed my Himilayan and my Ocicat together and sell the kittens for 500$" would you think that was right? Just because a Labrador and a Poodle together is more common doesn't make it more right.

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No absolutely not - I don't agree with breeding for money and do agree with everything you say. I feel more need to defend the Labradoodle because of the reason it was crossed in the first place, but I do agree that subsequent crosses are usually purely for profit. I certainly don't agree with just breeding anything - definitely not! I can just see the original purpose for Labradoodles - which of course has now been abused by profiteering BYBs with no eye to improve or better the cross so that it can one day be recognised as a breed. And I still think it is one of those crosses that has just had a beautiful result, thought I would rather there were no Labradoodles in the world at all, because a beautiful result doesn't equal a genuine purpose.

Having said that, I also have to acknowledge that Max and I got our dogs from a pet store - really a fancy puppy mill, albeit one with health checks, microchips and so forth. They are still a puppy mill, they still accept dogs from BYBs, and they are still in it for profit.

This was before either of us knew any better. Since getting them I have joined a dog forum which opened my eyes to the world of puppy mills and BYBs - something I didn't know about before.

We have both agreed that we will never get another dog from somewhere like that. All the dogs in our future will be rescues, or purebred poodles from a reputable breeder. The poodle was the reason we got Labradoodles in the first place - we wanted Standard poodles and none of the breeders in WA had any litters (something I know now is a good sign - but didn't know then) so we got Labradoodles instead.

But since my time volunteering with the RSPCA, I have come to believe that if you get a dog it should be a rescue, which is what we'll do in the future, and Lord knows shelters are full of `crosses' which people have not been able to palm off for money. It is so sad.

Besides creating more unwanted dogs in the end and creating mixed breeds on purpose, my biggest beef is that these people are CHARGING hundreds - thousands of dollars for a mixed bred dog that you could adopt from a shelter for far less AND save a life!

And if cockapoos have been around that long, why are people still insisting they are purebred dogs and charging hundreds for them?