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post #1 of 44
Thread Starter 
Today when my son went out to feed and water Bandit(our pup) he came runiing into the house hollering.It scared the you know what out of me.First thought,pup was hurt or worse......second there was something dead in the yard.
But, guess what I saw as soon as I walked out the door and looked?2 sets of eyes!!! LITTLE eyes!So, on further looking, there were 6 KITTENS in his dog house. OMG!!! Where is the Mommy?I am 99% sure she is the cat that we saw laying beside the road dead.
These babies are soooooooooooo young!!! I mean old enough to have JUST opened their eyes and started walking.They're about the size of my hand.
I know NOTHING about raising orphan babies.Only what I've read here.I got some goats milk,eye droppers (store was out of bottles),pouch kitten food,hard kitten food-which I added warm water to,a small litter pan and some litter.They are in my garden tub with a pillow to lay on,foods and water with them.I will feed them every 2 hours?!Right?
What else should I know?I'll add some pics in a few.I have to add them to my photo bucket first.I brought them in the house,bathed them as they were fly larva INFESTED,towel dried them. Fed them and now they are resting all snug in a ball.
ANY help will be VERY VERY much appreciated!!!!
post #2 of 44
OK, first of all, take a deep breath.

Then go straight to www.kitten-rescue.com . There you ill see lots and lots of information on how to care for these little ones.
post #3 of 44
I'm guessing it is hot where you are at the moment?

Home-made Pedialyte
1 cup water (boiled then cooled)
Small pinch of baking soda
Small pinch of Salt
2 teaspoons of sugar
Mix all ingredients well. Make sure the mixture has been slightly warmed before feeding to your kitten. The mixture will keep in the refrigerator for up to 3 days. Feed 1ml (1cc) every half an hour for the first two hours using a dropper or feeding syringe. Also make sure your kitten is on his tummy and not his back when you feed. Feed very slowly so the fluid does not go down the wrong tube and choke your kitten.
post #4 of 44
If you can take a picture and maybe post it, I will be able to help you out with how old they are.

Home-made kitten formula (Kitten Glop)
8 ounces water (boiled then cooled)
1 envelope Knox unflavored gelatin
8 ounces whole evaporated milk (not skim)
2 tablespoons mayonnaise (not low fat)
2 tablespoons plain yogurt (not low fat)
1 large or 2 small eggs yolks (raw)
1 teaspoon clear Karo syrup
* 1-3 drops liquid pet vitamins
* 1 capsule acidophilus
* 1 drop Grapefruit Seed Extract (GSE)
* Optional, though very beneficial.
Boil the water, add the gelatin and mix well. Add the following ingredients in order, mixing well after each addition:

1/2 of the canned milk
Mayonnaise and Yogurt
Rest of the milk
All other ingredients

You can substitute canned goat's milk for the canned evaporated milk, if you prefer it. This mixture will keep in the fridge for up to four days. It is jello-like in consistency in the fridge so you can just scoop out as much as you need and warm. It can also be frozen in ice cube trays and defrosted as needed. You can find pet vitamins at a pet store or your vet, and acidophilus and GSE in the liquid form at a good health food store.

If you prefer, you can use this recipe permanently, instead of a commercially available kitten formula. If you are using a commercial formula, add a quarter of a teaspoon of full fat yogurt to the first bottle of each day. This will aid in your kitten's digestion.
post #5 of 44
If they are just old enought to have opened their eyes, they wil not be able to eat the pouched food or dry food (even when made into a moosh with warm water) for a few weeks yet.

I am betting they have fleas. Fleas can be deadly in young kittens. When you get a minute LOL, check on the colour of the kitten's gums. If they are whitish, greyish or a very light pink, they may be anaemic because of the fleas. Once we work out how old they are, you can click on the link on the web site or here: http://www.kitten-rescue.com/parasites.html to see how to treat fleas.

Donb't forget, you will need to stimulate them to go to the toilet. They may have full bladders and bowels. Click on the link called Pooping and Peeing on the web site to see how to do this.
post #6 of 44
You mentioned a litter pan and litter. It sounds like they are too young to use that for now. Just a note, make sure that when they do start to use the litter pan that you only use non-clumping clay litter or a wheat or newspaper based one. Part of their learning means that they will eat the litter as they explore it, so it's important to use a litter that won't harm them.
post #7 of 44
Thread Starter 
Their poor little gums are light pink.There looks to be 2 runts.As far as we can tell, there are 4 girls and 2 males.
grey tiger stripped-with little bit of Calico on it's face (girl)
2 mostly black with some Calico in them (girls)
darker grey-almost black with Calico on it's face (girl)
2 all black (males)
As soon as my stupid dial up down loads the pics, I'll add them!!

Thank you SOOOO much for your help!!!
post #8 of 44
You're welcome. They sound very sweet.
post #9 of 44
Thread Starter 
I only use Tidy Cats Multiple cat litter.
Here's one of the black boys


I'll post the rest of the pics in another post.
post #10 of 44
Thread Starter 

Yes, it is VERY hot here!!! With the heat index, it's about 105.I don't see fleas, but they had fly eggs all over them,They were dirty and are burr covered.So, I sit and slowly try to get them off of them.
post #11 of 44
They look to be 3 1/2 to 4 weeks old. They will be ready for the litter pan.

I'm not familiar with tidy cats litter. What is it made of?
post #12 of 44
Thread Starter 
Needless to say,Blaze (who is spayed) and Neela (also spayed) are NOT too happy about having Corwin (to young to neuter--8 weeks old) here and now I add in these orphan babies.
We saw a cat dead on the road on Friday!!! Surely these babies couldn't have gone that long without food/water/milk?!!
I was so suprised to see these babies in the pups dog house.He must have found them and tried to care for them.Or they saw him and thought he would feed them
post #13 of 44
Make sure that your babies and these little ones are kept separate so that they cannot pass anything on to each other.
post #14 of 44
Thread Starter 
It's a none clumping cat litter. Not sure what it's made of?
post #15 of 44
Thread Starter 
All of my babies are not allowed in our room right now.I have the bathroom door and our bedroom door shut.As I'm still trying to get Blaze and Neela use to having Corwin here.We just adopted him yesterday
post #16 of 44
Ahhhh, that makes things a bit more difficult!

With the litter, as long as it doesn't have deodorisers and isn't perfumed, it should be OK.
post #17 of 44
Thread Starter 
Thank you sooooo very much for your help!!! I sooooo appreciate it
I am new to this and want to do right by them.
post #18 of 44
Any time. If you need to, you can e-mail me at tania@kitten-rescue.com .

I'm sure you will do fine. It's not easy but very rewarding.
post #19 of 44
Thread Starter 
Thank you!!! I will probably take you up on your offer if I should have any more questions. I am hoping they thrive and can find them wonderful homes when they are 12 weeks old.
I can't thank you enough.Thanks again!!!
post #20 of 44
With it being so hot, make sure you keep their fluids up so they don't get dehydrated. They will need about 3 dropper-fuls of water or that home-made pedialyte every 4 hours, as well as the formula. Feed the formula first and then the water.
post #21 of 44
They are beautiful!

I am so sorry for the momma, but glad you found them--what timing, eh?

When it rains it pours.

I will be following this, anxious to get all the good news.

Glad they are old enough to use the litter! It would have been much more work...
post #22 of 44
Thread Starter 
Well, we made it through the night. I haven't had to feed something every 2-3 hours since my son was born 6 years ago.So, this was something!!I am VERY happy to report that they ARE using the litter pan.I have seen them go into it and poop/pee.
I didn't get much sleep as I was so affraid that when I woke up every couple of hours, that one or more might be dead.
It was a week ago today that we saw a cat dead on the side of the road.I am assuming that was their mommy.I haven't seen any other strays around here.
It's wheird that they either chose to go to Bandits dog house.....or he found them and put them in there.
Can you imagine a WEEK without food?No wonder they are so tiny.
I have copied down both recipes and will get the ingrediants today.
Thanks for the advice and well wishes.Keep your fingers crossed they all make it!!!!
post #23 of 44
I am so happy that you found this little monsters (they are unbelieveably cute) and that you all have made it through the night and things are going so well.

You are awesome for caring for these little ones.

It is amazing that they either found their way to your dogs house or your dog brought them to his house - animals are amazing creatures, aren't they?
post #24 of 44
wow !! what a story!! WTG Bandit (even if you didnt do anything lol)

how wonderful of you to take this bunch in and that Tania was able to give you so much support. So pleased to hear they made it through the night, they sure are adorable

Good luck!! simply wonderful of you I look forward to following their story
post #25 of 44
Gorgeous babies! I wish you the best of luck in caring for these kits! I think you'll do fabulously! So glad you found them, or rather Bandit found them?
post #26 of 44
I'm so proud of you (and Bandit) for rescuing these little doll-babies! How frightened they must have been without their momma!!!! To tell you the truth, it's the heat that may have been their saving grace...young kittens need to be kept warm, and since they were shaded, they probably were being kept at slightly above the right temp at the time! It's fabulous that they are using litter at this age...trust me, this saves you from the added task of having to stimulate them. As far as the larvae on them, gently comb each of them out with a flea comb to get as many eggs as possible out, and then warm up a 50/50 solution of distilled water and apple cider vinegar...dip a wash cloth in it, and gently rub each kitten down from back to tail with the solution. Follow it up with a nice rinse in water. The other option would be to give each kitten a quick bath with water, and just a drop of Ivory dish soap. Bundle each kitten up in a heated towel, and snuggle them dry, if too much struggling doesn't occur. Once they're dry, run the flea comb gently through again. Make sure you check for ear mites too.

A vet visit is in short order, so that he/she can check for parasites/worms/infections/disease. Please keep them quarantined for all pets until you get the "all clear" from the vet. Keep them warm, and try finding some KMR (Kitten Milk Replacement formula)...available at Wal-Mart, or in most grocery stores. A bottle kit should be available right next to the formula in the supermarket. There are all kinds of bottle-feeding tips and tricks on www.kitten-rescue.com , but in the interim the goats milk will suffice until you get the formula. The Kitten Pedialyte recipe on this site, which someone has already posted for you, is fabulous in treating dehydration...and it's super easy to whip up and store.

Please let us know if you're having trouble with the bottle-feeding, or if something comes up that you're not sure about. You sound like you're doing wonderfully.

Bless you for taking on such a big task!
post #27 of 44
Hope this helps!


Unfortunately, cow’s milk is not nutritious enough for kittens - they will slowly starve to death on it. It also causes diarrhea which is extremely dangerous for young kittens. If you can't get to a pet store right away, consult our recipes for a goat’s-milk based Emergency Kitten Formula. Your first purchase should be a pet nursing kit and kitten formula, available at pet stores. The nursing kit usually includes a bottle, several extra nipples, and a cleaning brush. Cut an "X" in the tip of your first nipple with scissors. Kitten formula (brands include KMR and Just Born) is more economical if purchased in powdered form to be mixed as needed. Pet supply catalogs offer very good values on these products. We recommend www.countrysidepet.com or www.valleyvet.com.

Some fosters prefer the Catac brand kitten feeders, which feature a specially shaped bottle and nipple, but these are harder to find. You know that you have made the nipple opening just big enough if, when the bottle is held upside-down, formula drips slowly from it. Too small an opening will make kittens work too hard to get their formula, tiring them out before they've had enough to eat. Too large an opening will force too much formula into them, too fast.

Before each feeding, sterilize the bottles and nipples by boiling them in water. Formula should be warmed to room temperature. You can do this by microwaving it in the bottle for no longer than 10 seconds (never let it boil), or placing the bottle in a bowl of hot water for a few minutes. Before each feeding, you should also sterilize your hands with antibacterial sanitizer or water with a touch of bleach added. It's a good idea to re-sterilize after you're done with the kittens each time. This way, the kittens and your own pets will be protected against one another's germs. An alternative to this is to purchase a box of latex surgical gloves and use a new pair for each feeding.

Many fosters like to keep a special t-shirt, sweatshirt, or apron in the room where the kittens are kept, and slip it on before feeding and removing it afterwards. Some viruses can live on clothing, and this can help prevent cross-contamination to and from other animals in the house. Kitten positioning for feeding is very important; this is where the crucial surrogate-mom bonding happens. Different people have different "styles" of bottle-feeding. Kittens are most comfortable in a position similar to the position they'd be in if they were nursing from a momcat. One position is simply to place the kitten on its stomach on a towel or cloth on which it can cling; it will "knead" its paws on instinct. You can also sit cross-legged on the floor with the kitten inside your legs, and let the kitten place its paws on your leg as it nurses. Remember to keep a towel on your lap for this-- and use a fresh, clean towel each day.

Open the mouth gently with the tip of your finger and slip the nipple in. Once your kitten gets the hang of it, they will search out the nipple enthusiastically! You will feel a real "vacuum effect" when the kitten gets into suckle mode. To keep air from getting into the kitten's stomach, hold the bottle at a 45-degree angle, keeping a light pull on the bottle. The kitten should be allowed to suck at its own pace. If a kitten refuses to take the nipple or won't suckle, try rubbing it vigorously on its forehead or stroking its back. This replicates the activity of a momcat's cleaning and can effectively stimulate the kitten to nurse. Sometimes you will hear a "clicking" noise which means the kitten's nursing instinct is in gear and should be ready for the nipple. Sometimes a kitten is simply picky; there are two kinds of nipples out there, one shorter and one longer, so you might have to make sure they don't prefer one or the other.

Kittens who seem too weak to nurse can often be stimulated by rubbing some Karo syrup on the lips. If a kitten still refuses to nurse, and this happens beyond the first few "getting the hang of it" times, it indicates illness. The kitten should be put on Amoxicyllin; if it does not respond in 10-12 hours then you should take the kitten to the vet.

Kittens have been known to accidentally suck formula into the lungs; if this happens, hold the kitten upside down until it stops choking. A kitten should eat about 8cc of formula per ounce of body weight per day (1 ounce = 30cc so this is just under 1/4 ounce of formula per ounce of body weight). Nursing bottles are marked with measurements so it's easy to keep track. Weigh the kittens daily to calculate the amount of formula they need; a kitchen or small postal scale should be used. Kittens under one week old should be fed every 2-3 hours; at two weeks old they can be fed every 4-6 hours; after three weeks old, until they are weaned, they should be fed every 6-8 hours. Divide their needed daily intake by the number of required daily feedings, and you'll know how much they should eat each time. Kittens who are extra weak or recovering from a "crash" may need to eat more frequently.

Keep in mind that the younger kittens are, the more accustomed they are to staying "latched onto" a momcat's nipple all the time, nursing small amounts periodically. If you notice that your kittens are not eating enough in one feeding, increase the frequency of feedings.

If you're feeding multiple kittens, you'll have better luck with them eating the required amount if you feed them each several times, taking turns. Feed the first kitten until it stops nursing, feed the second, etc. Then go back to the first and repeat this round-robin. Usually after 2 or 3 nursing turns, a kitten has had enough for one feeding.

When a kitten has had enough formula, it will usually get some bubbles around its mouth and its tummy will be very rounded, almost pear-shaped. After feeding, you should burp the kitten just like you'd burp a human baby; hold it upright against your shoulder and pat it on the back. Do not overfeed kittens, since this can cause diarrhea and a host of other problems. Kittens under four weeks will go happily to sleep after they're fed and full; older kittens will want some serious play and cuddle time.

It's natural for kittens to suckle on each other or on your fingers, even after they're finished eating. This is harmless unless you notice that this kind of activity is causing irritation to other kittens' fur or skin.
post #28 of 44
Thread Starter 
Thank you all!!! So much wonderful advice.
I have a 16 year old daughter and a 13 year old son that I have enlisted to help me with the kittens.We all sit around in a circle, so I can watch them, and we feed 3 at a time.I let them do this ONLY during the day.Nights are MY job!! I can tell they miss their Mommy so much.They meow for her and search her out.How sad!! I only wish I would have known Mom was pregnant with them and could have caught her before she had them and was hit.Now, all I can do....is take care of them and hope for the best.
As for the Vets, I am going to try and get them in ASAP!!! I don't have air conditioning in my mini-van and right now it's just too hot for them.We HOPEFULLY will be getting some much cooler weather next week.I can ONLY hope!!!If not, they will have to tolerate it as best as they can.
I got the goats milk, because when we had a litter of Rotties 8 years ago.....that Mom didn't feed......our Vet suggested Goats milk to supliment them.I got the ingrediants for the kitten glop and the pedilite.So, hopefully with those, the goats milk and water, we can keep them alive and they will grow up to be wonderful,loving,well nurished kittens.
post #29 of 44
Sorry about the momcat. It looks and sounds like you are being an excellent foster-mom to the kittens. They are very cute.

It is wonderful to see Neela all grown up in such a wonderful home.
post #30 of 44
You're gonna kill me for not telling you this yesterday LOL but because they are a little older, they only need to be fed every 4 hours. Keep offering them dropper-fuls until they are full and then move on to the next kitten. Once you get the bottle, feeding should be easier and quicker. Most nipples don't come pierced, so heat up a needle in a flame until it glows red (don't burn yourself - I hold the needle with pliers) and then quickly pierce the top of the nipple, in and out. Rinse the nipple well and suck gently on it so you can tell it will work. These babies are a bit older, so the hole needs to be slightly bigger than you would do for newborns. When you feed, unscrew the cap a little so that bubbles rise into the formula as the kittens feed. Don't forget to burp by patting them on the back as you cuddle them - one finger for each week of life, so these ones need patting with three fingers.
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