TheCatSite.com › Forums › Our Feline Companions › Cat Health › My Poor Simon!
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

My Poor Simon!

post #1 of 12
Thread Starter 
Well, this is the 3rd time I've written in this forum since yesterday and it never seems to be for a positive reason. I wrote earlier talking about my oldest cat Sox who I love dearly, who has an eye problem (or so we think), but now its on to another one of my cats. As I've mentioned before, I own 4 cats, ages 6-12. All of whom are unbelievably great pets and are hilarious on a daily basis. However, the youngest of the group, Simon, may have to be put down.
Its such a shame. We think he may have bladder stones again, and I say again because he had them 2 years ago. It can be with some cats a very serious and re-occuring problem as we are finding out. We noticed he was peeing outside his litter box (this was 2 years ago) and as we all know, cats wont and dont like to do that unless of course, something is wrong. So, we got him checked out, thinking it was a UTI. Well, low and behold, it was bladder stones. The vet informed us that he needed them out A.S.A.P, as they could form a blockage that would not allow him to urinate, something he could die from. Realizing the seriousness of this problem, we agreed to have the surgury. Before we did that, the vet also informed us that there are two kinds of bladders stones. I'm not remembering the technical terms, but basically, theres a "good" kind and a "bad" kind. The good kind could be surgically removed and would probably never come back, the second kind had a 50/50 chance of re-occuring. Not fun.
The vet then told us that JUST for the surgury it would cost $1000. Something we werent willing to spend. So the option was to then put him down. I couldnt bear to do that to a 4 yr old cat who was once a street kitty. (he followed me home after a i went for a walk and never left my front porch)
So, I called around to some other vets and found a good deal. $600 for the surgury, anti-biotics, and testing of the stones to see what kind they were, etc. So, the surgury was done and Simon was once again back to his normal self and urinating in his litter box. Some discomfort followed the surgury obviously with stitches along his entire belly. He got better though.
We also found out through the testing, he had the "bad" stones. Not good news. But up until now, he was fine...no bladder stones. We thought we lucked out thinking he'd never get them back.
However, for the past little while we've noticed him peeing outside the litter box. Not good news either. As we havent taken him to the vet yet, we are discussing which path to go down. We can spend the $600 AGAIN....make him have the surgury AGAIN and wait until they come back AGAIN some years later to do it all over again....OR, just put him down. So far, everyone has opted for putting him down, not that they really want to. I certainly dont want to. But can we really keep spending $600 every 2 years? and even worse, can we keep putting him through surgury after surgury? What kind of life is that for a cat?
So...I feel as though I'm at a loss no matter what route I take. I would much rather get him the surgury then put him to sleep. I've never in my life had to do that yet or even experienced a death of a pet. So I'm not sure how I'll deal with this if that's the conclusion we come to.
Simon is a wonderful cat - he's a 6 yr. old Bombay cat, (he pretty much looks like a panther, all black...shiny fur, thick too...big nose...big ears...big green eyes...well, he's just a BIG cat all around - he also weighs in at 20-22 pounds! He's not all fat though, he's a big boy...lots of muscle) He's our gentle giant, intimidating on the outside but an affectionate suck on the inside. *sighs* This is so sad for me and the rest of my family. Our 4 cats have made such an impact in our lives, it'd be weird to only have 3.
It's odd, we have 2 boys (sox and simon) and 2 girls (tabitha and molly)....only the boys have had health related issues...never the girls though. I wonder if this is common? Probably not. But, it seems to be that way for us. Anyway, I guess this is pretty long...I just needed to get my thoughts out.
Thanks to whoever read this
post #2 of 12
I have no advice to give but I just wanted to sympathise. I guess you have to think of Simon and his quality of life, assuming you can afford the surgery (which it seems you can so I would put that out of the equation). Is he enjoying life enough to make it worth him going through a few weeks of discomfort every couple of years or so? Good luck with whatever you decide - he does sound a wonderful cat.
post #3 of 12
I have two cats, one male and one female, and my male cat is the one that has had all the health problems. I think other than urinary blockages though there really isn't any difference. I am sure there are people with both sexes of cats and they have a female that has had more than it's share of health problems. I really have no advice for you on Simon though. I think it's a decision that only you can make. He sounds like a unique and loveable cat and I am sorry that he is having to go though being so sick again.
post #4 of 12
Have any of the vets you've seen discussed with you possible methods of controlling Simon's stones, such as diet? I have a female kitty with both types of stones, so granted I don't face the same blockage issues as you, but it is my understanding that there are alternative treatments, rather than waiting for the cat to block and doing surgeries.
post #5 of 12
Poor Simon. This is so sad, I can't even imagine what you must be going through. I am so sorry Simon is sick again.

Maybe since you haven't gone to the vet yet this time, it might be something else? I know its not likely, but you never know until you go get him checked out.

This is very hard, you mentioned that the bad kidney stones have 50/50 chance of recurring...maybe he'll have them all his life and you would have to keep having surgery on him. But putting him to sleep seems such a waste.

I do not envy your situation and have no real advice. Many people on this site believe if you really look into your cat, they will let you know what to do.

Good luck. Keep us updated.
post #6 of 12
Assuming money isn't an issue, I would opt for the surgery. Simon sounds like a sweet-heart, and I don't think you are even close to making the choice to have him PTS. If this is something that only crops up every few years, I wouldn't let the second occurence be the deciding factor. Just for a moment, take the peeing outside the box out of the equation. Is Simon still his usual self? Is he happy & active, eating & drinking well? I think you should get Simon to the vet before you worry yourself sick about this.
Sending loads of (((healing vibes))) to your sweet Simon.
post #7 of 12
Did your vet happen to do a biopsy when they did the first surgery? It sounds to me like Simon could have cystitis, which my Polly was just officially diagnosed with. She was unofficially diagnosed (without a biopsy) about 6 months ago. There are many treatments, such as special diets and medications that I would look into before putting Simon down.
post #8 of 12
I would consider quality of life. If he has good quality of life I'd do the surgery and then see about changing diet or forcing fluids or something else to see if it comes back. But if you can afford it I'd not put him to sleep.

Jenn.
post #9 of 12
Quote:
Originally Posted by PurrPaws
Did your vet happen to do a biopsy when they did the first surgery? It sounds to me like Simon could have cystitis, which my Polly was just officially diagnosed with. She was unofficially diagnosed (without a biopsy) about 6 months ago. There are many treatments, such as special diets and medications that I would look into before putting Simon down.
Please investigate your options with your vet. You may not need to have him PTS.
post #10 of 12
Wondering about Simon; has he seen the vet yet?
post #11 of 12
Hello,
Please, please do not put him down!!
Please go to www.catnutrition.org and read, read, read!!
It talks about raw dites for cats and goes into great detail about the benefits. I have just only started it for my cat which was diagnosed with diabetes and he's like a whole new cat. You have nothing to lose and only to gain by giving this a try on poor Simon. It should help clear up his urinary problems. My cats will never go back to dry food!

Thanks
Helen.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Flynner85
Well, this is the 3rd time I've written in this forum since yesterday and it never seems to be for a positive reason. I wrote earlier talking about my oldest cat Sox who I love dearly, who has an eye problem (or so we think), but now its on to another one of my cats. As I've mentioned before, I own 4 cats, ages 6-12. All of whom are unbelievably great pets and are hilarious on a daily basis. However, the youngest of the group, Simon, may have to be put down.
Its such a shame. We think he may have bladder stones again, and I say again because he had them 2 years ago. It can be with some cats a very serious and re-occuring problem as we are finding out. We noticed he was peeing outside his litter box (this was 2 years ago) and as we all know, cats wont and dont like to do that unless of course, something is wrong. So, we got him checked out, thinking it was a UTI. Well, low and behold, it was bladder stones. The vet informed us that he needed them out A.S.A.P, as they could form a blockage that would not allow him to urinate, something he could die from. Realizing the seriousness of this problem, we agreed to have the surgury. Before we did that, the vet also informed us that there are two kinds of bladders stones. I'm not remembering the technical terms, but basically, theres a "good" kind and a "bad" kind. The good kind could be surgically removed and would probably never come back, the second kind had a 50/50 chance of re-occuring. Not fun.
The vet then told us that JUST for the surgury it would cost $1000. Something we werent willing to spend. So the option was to then put him down. I couldnt bear to do that to a 4 yr old cat who was once a street kitty. (he followed me home after a i went for a walk and never left my front porch)
So, I called around to some other vets and found a good deal. $600 for the surgury, anti-biotics, and testing of the stones to see what kind they were, etc. So, the surgury was done and Simon was once again back to his normal self and urinating in his litter box. Some discomfort followed the surgury obviously with stitches along his entire belly. He got better though.
We also found out through the testing, he had the "bad" stones. Not good news. But up until now, he was fine...no bladder stones. We thought we lucked out thinking he'd never get them back.
However, for the past little while we've noticed him peeing outside the litter box. Not good news either. As we havent taken him to the vet yet, we are discussing which path to go down. We can spend the $600 AGAIN....make him have the surgury AGAIN and wait until they come back AGAIN some years later to do it all over again....OR, just put him down. So far, everyone has opted for putting him down, not that they really want to. I certainly dont want to. But can we really keep spending $600 every 2 years? and even worse, can we keep putting him through surgury after surgury? What kind of life is that for a cat?
So...I feel as though I'm at a loss no matter what route I take. I would much rather get him the surgury then put him to sleep. I've never in my life had to do that yet or even experienced a death of a pet. So I'm not sure how I'll deal with this if that's the conclusion we come to.
Simon is a wonderful cat - he's a 6 yr. old Bombay cat, (he pretty much looks like a panther, all black...shiny fur, thick too...big nose...big ears...big green eyes...well, he's just a BIG cat all around - he also weighs in at 20-22 pounds! He's not all fat though, he's a big boy...lots of muscle) He's our gentle giant, intimidating on the outside but an affectionate suck on the inside. *sighs* This is so sad for me and the rest of my family. Our 4 cats have made such an impact in our lives, it'd be weird to only have 3.
It's odd, we have 2 boys (sox and simon) and 2 girls (tabitha and molly)....only the boys have had health related issues...never the girls though. I wonder if this is common? Probably not. But, it seems to be that way for us. Anyway, I guess this is pretty long...I just needed to get my thoughts out.
Thanks to whoever read this
post #12 of 12
I am not sure what bladder stones are and where they cause the blockage. IF it is the same as cystits, years ago I had a cat who kept getting it and he got, what I refer to as, a Christine Jorgenson operation. His penis was removed and he had a new opening from which to pee. He had it done young and lived to be 14 when he developed a tumor on his liver. Is this a possibility for your cat? Or do the stones cause a block above the penis. Removal of the penis gave a larger opening which allowed passing of the irritating material.
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Cat Health
TheCatSite.com › Forums › Our Feline Companions › Cat Health › My Poor Simon!