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KItty and litter box

post #1 of 8
Thread Starter 
Hello everyone.

I have a little problem with my kitten. She is 16 weeks old and we have had her for about 8-9 weeks.

When we first got her, she never really used her litter box, and at that stage she had diarrohea. The ONLY places she would go were the corners of the lounge and living rooms. We tried everything, yelling, smacking on the nose, sparying with water, water diluted with vinegar, we sprayed where she pooped with vinegar. Nothing worked.

We took her to the vet, he said it was most likely her diarrohea, and we should maybe try refilling her litter box every two days and see if that does it. Well it started to work, started pooping in the box, she would even stop playing to walk all the way to her box to do it. It was excellent. She even got diarrohea again, but yet still used the box. Now her poop is solid, yet she wont touch her box, she waits to be let out and runs straight to the lounge room and defecates there. It is very frustrating, could someone please help????
post #2 of 8

The first thing you need to do is isolate her in one room with her cat box, food and water. Keep her there till she gets the idea. It should take about 24 to 48 hours. If you don't have a spare room, try the bathroom. When she does go in the box, praise her and give her treats. She WILL eventually get the idea.

Cats don't respond or understand snapping the nose or any kind of physical punishment. So don't waste your time. My oldest cat Mollie Rose used to poop behind my living room chair. I was so frustrated (she was my first cat) that I didn't know what to do. Someone who was knowledgable in cat behavior told me to isolate her and good golly, it worked!

Good luck and keep us posted!

post #3 of 8
Thread Starter 
Thanks for ur advice donna, one thing I'd like to ask is, that she was use to it for a while, why would she all of a sudden just stop using it?? Oh, and one more , I feel really bad when I lock her up when we are eating, she meows, constantly, and I feel slack, and I let her out. I'm not sure I could stand ocking her up for 2 days!! ANy more advice is gretky appreciated.. Thankyou.
post #4 of 8

Believe me, locking a kitty up for 2 days is not going to hurt them. It will let them know that they need to use the litter box. I also have to lock up my Sphynx MooShoo when I eat, otherwise he'd be in my face. I only do it till I'm finished eating.

As far as your kitty's litterbox problem, if she was used to going in the box before, you may want to have her checked out by her vet to make sure she doesn't have an undlying UTI (urinary tract infection) problem. You can also try having two litterboxes. This way if one isn't clean enough for her liking (cats are very clean animals. some won't go in the box if there is even one poop in it) she'll have another one to use. If she gets a clean bill of health, try the isolation technique. If she cries, try putting a radio in with classical music playing. It is only temporary and it should work (it worked for me). You may also want to ask your vet.

Let us know how it goes and good luck!
post #5 of 8
Hi, I just wanted to encourage brles with litter box duty. I have the 2 adult cats that were litter trained when I adopted them. At that time, they shared a box. Since coming to me, Mony (the female) prefers to use "her's". And she usually waits until the morning right after I clean it to poop. My male on the other hand,waits until I get home and does something really horrendous so I have to clean again. (I think he has been around my son too long). He has another habit that might be similar to your cat's: he does not and Will Not use a litter box if anyone is in the room with him or, heaven forbid, watching him. Mony couldn't care less.

Good luck and the patience of Job to you.
post #6 of 8
Thread Starter 
I'd like to thank everyone so far for their advice, but I let the kitty out of her room after two days of being locked up, with food and water, and clean litter boxes of course , but as soon as we opened the door, zoom, straight to behind the tv and the pooping began.. What do I do now??????

Confused, agitated and losing hope
post #7 of 8
Pulled some stuff together for you from other websites - just things for you to consider (food for thought)!

Cats are very clean animals that love habit, so when she goes to the bathroom in places other than the litterbox you can rest assured that something isn't right. If she has a litterbox problem you should first consult your vet to rule out any sort of medical reason behind the problem. If your cat is given a clean bill of health and is still having 'accidents' then you can probably be safe in listing it as a behavioral problem.

Behavioral reasons for improper elimination can be for any of the following reasons:

Litterbox is too dirty to use. Cats are very clean and if the box is irty they will find another place to go.
Litterbox is in too high traffic of a place. Cats won't go to the bathroom in a place that is loud or congested, so keep your box somewhere that is quiet and calm.
Litterbox is too small/large. Your cat's box should be large enough (not too large) for your cat to stand in and move around and the litter should be no more than a few inches deep.
The litter itself isn't of your cat's liking. Yes cats can have litter preferences and some of these start when the cat is young. Also don't get into the practice of continually switching brands and types of litter, this may throw off your cat's routine and confuse your cat as to
where to go to the bathroom.
Your cat has recently been declawed. A newly declawed cat will not like the feeling of litter on his/her paws and may thus avoid the litterbox altogether.
Litterbox is too close to food or water. Cats will not eat and go to the bathroom in the same place, so keep these two areas separate.
You have changed the location of your cat's litterbox and your cat is having trouble finding or remembering the new place. Once your cat gets used to his/her box in one place try not to change it. If you do change the location make sure to show your cat where it is and be patient as he/she learns the new location.
Litterbox doesn't have 2 easy escape routes. Cats like to be able to see two clear directions of escape while in the litterbox, this is an instinctual feeling stemming from not wanting to be 'snuck up on' at an inopportune time.
Other cats also use this litterbox (in a multiple cat home) and your cat wants his own box. As a general rule you should have at least one box for each cat in your home.
Your cat doesn't like to urinate and defecate in the same litterbox. If so try to keep two litterboxes available for your cat and clean each often.
Your cat is in heat or is looking for a mate and is marking or spraying. For many reasons other than this one, get your cat spayed or neutered.
Your cat is overly aggressive and marking. Try to find out what the cause of the aggressive behavior is and counteract that.
Your cat feels his/her territory is being invaded and is marking. Have you gotten a new cat or another pet? Can your cat see other cats from the window? Has something changed in the home?
Your cat is marking to exhibit his/her dominance in the home. This can happen when a new cat is brought into the house or your cat is being treated against the natural cat hierarchy in the house.
Your cat has had a bad experience with his/her litterbox and is scared to go there. This is one reason why it is important to not put your cat's face in the 'mistake' and then toss him/her into the box. Any bad event surrounding the box can make your cat even more likely to stay away from the litterbox.
A stressful situation has occurred in your cat's life such as a move to a new home or a new child or cat being brought into the home. In this case you may also need to retrain your cat to go to the box.

If your cat has made a elimination mistake DO NOT take your cat over to the scene of the crime or the litterbox and rub his/her face in it and punish your cat. Many owners like to, after an accident, place the cat in the box and yell at him/her. Unless you have caught your cat in the act
chances are your cat has no idea why it is being punished, nor does it link that spot on the carpet or being placed in the box with being in trouble for not using the litterbox. All your cat knows is that using the litterbox or going to the bathroom is a dangerous event that results in
punishment. This will only exacerbate the problem as your cat will now detest the box even more.

In most cases such behavioral problems as the ones listed above can be corrected by making simple changes to the litter or litterbox. However if you feel you have tried everything and your cat simple won't use the box you may need to retrain your cat how to use the box. This is not
difficult but it will take time and patience. Reintroduce your cat to the litterbox, show him/her how to use it, giving praise and treats when the cat 'gets it right'. Note that many cats hate their paw pads to be touched or their paws to be held, thus you can show your cat how to scratch (if he/she is using the box but not scratching) but unless your cat is comfortable with you touching his/her paws you may need to use your hand (or a scooper) as an example. Also watch your cat for signs thathe/she is going to go to the bathroom, if you see the sign take your cat to the box, and give treats when your cat finishes going in the box. You
may also need to use aversion techniques to help your cat stay away from new favorite places to go to the bathroom. And make sure you clean the old area with a cleaner specially designed to eliminate cat urine odor such as Pheromone Magic (an emzyme cleaner) - there are others, this is just an example) this will also prevent your cat from returning to the scene of the crime so to speak. Regular cleaners do not do the trick. Although the area may smell fine to you, unless you use an appropriate cleaner it
will still smell like urine to your cat. And if it smells like a litterbox your cat will most likely treat it as a litterbox. If you still need help correcting this type of problem you may want to consult a behaviorist.

Good Luck to you and your little one
post #8 of 8
Thread Starter 
Thanks for all ur advice, i'll give it all a try.
Hopefully the kitty will pull through and we can all have a nice time

Thanks again
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