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post #31 of 53
I think plastic surgery should only be done for people who were born with deformities and accident victums.
post #32 of 53
My husband's 2 aunts had gastric bypass surgery. The 1 aunt had no complications, the other had a few. She had to go back into the hospital a few times, there was an infection, etc. But now she is fine. They have both dropped over 100lbs each. And look fabulous. I do know that when they had the surgery, it was not just operate and send them on their way... they had to join a fitness program (curves was the recommended one), and attend nutritional/dietary classes. This way it will be a life changing experience, and not another surgery later on.
post #33 of 53
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Originally Posted by eburgess
I think plastic surgery should only be done for people who were born with deformities and accident victums.

I'm going to have to agree with you on that, we were watching "Untold Stories of the ER" last night and they had a story about a young woman who was attacked by a cougar. Which in itself would be a frightening experiance. In cases such as that they do what they can.

So there are medical reasons to perform plastic surgery, not all are for personal gain. I think that's one thing we should remember.
post #34 of 53
Yes, so true - there are reasons other than cosmetic reasons for plastic surgery. I've had three lots in two years to remove a large area to ensure that cancer didn't spread and to remove a lump without leaving a big scar.

On one occasion when I was operated on, there were many babies and small children who were having health problems corrected by plastic surgery. Only two people out of two wards full of adults and children were having cosmetic procedures.
post #35 of 53
I think too many times people resort to surgery to lose weight (which isn't the case in the original poster's situation, gastric bypass is medical IMO) and it's sad...I think that's how plastic surgery is being blown too much out of proportion.

My mom had four kids and gained some weight. She got tired of carrying it and bought a bike...and she'd bike miles every morning. She lost like 20-30 pounds and looked awesome. Then she gained it back because she stopped. When I was a junior in high school, she told me she was having surgery on her stomach and wasn't telling my dad, so I had to drive her there and back. I did, not knowing what it was...and quite worried. I found out later it was liposuction...and I was so angry. I felt it was very lazy of her...and you know what? I couldn't see the difference in her this time, not like when she had worked to get it off. And now she's gained back whatever weight she lost from it, and she talks about how she needs to go on a diet.

What people need to learn is how to maintain a healthy lifestyle, not resort to surgery to fix their imperfections.
post #36 of 53
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Originally Posted by Crystal211
I found out later it was liposuction... now she's gained back whatever weight she lost from it, and she talks about how she needs to go on a diet.

That is something I don't understand. If you have the surgery and make no changes whatsoever to your lifestyle/eating habits and gained it all back+more, you've just risked your life, endured unnecessary pain, and spent piles of money for no reason whatsoever, but people still fly under the knife as if it will solve everything forever with no changes made on their part. Is there no screening/educational visit for receiving cosmetic surgery? (not referring to your mother, your story just reminded me of that)
post #37 of 53
My feelings on this subject are that it really is up to the individual and if they can afford it and feel better about themselves, it's their business.

I've seen the ones that have gone overboard and look worse for their surgeries, but again, it's their choice.
post #38 of 53
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Originally Posted by Yosemite
My feelings on this subject are that it really is up to the individual and if they can afford it and feel better about themselves, it's their business.

I've seen the ones that have gone overboard and look worse for their surgeries, but again, it's their choice.

That is how I feel about it. It's not for me, personally, but others doing it doesn't concern me.
post #39 of 53
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Originally Posted by CommonOddity042
That is something I don't understand. If you have the surgery and make no changes whatsoever to your lifestyle/eating habits and gained it all back+more, you've just risked your life, endured unnecessary pain, and spent piles of money for no reason whatsoever, but people still fly under the knife as if it will solve everything forever with no changes made on their part. Is there no screening/educational visit for receiving cosmetic surgery? (not referring to your mother, your story just reminded me of that)
The worst part of it is that she's a nurse. I'm not trying to talk bad about my mom at all, I was just disappointed with the situation...and it's the perfect example of why NOT to do it.
post #40 of 53
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Originally Posted by IloveSiamese

How you do guys feel about plastic surgery??? Would you ever have any done??? If yea, what and if not why?[/color][/size][/font]
Well, I had LASIK about a month ago, which is considered cosmetic, but I don't consider it plastic surgery like lipo or a facelift.
post #41 of 53
One of my BIL had gastric bypass not once but TWICE!!! The 1st time he probably only lost about 50# but did not change hi seating habits (take out pizza etc) He is a bachelor and never cooked for himself. They 2nd surgery was like 3 yrs agpo-he had to pay for himself (it was like 40K) He had complications and remained in the hospital for a longer time frame. He was 5'8" 330"-has be lost 100#-no maybe 60-70# I saw him just last week and he looked heavier again. He was trying to do some swimming and eat better however it doesn't seem to be working very well. You would like if you had to spend that money $$ out of your own pocket that it would be incentive enough to lose the weight.
post #42 of 53
I think you have some misinformation... I'd double check on it if I were you.

She's an adult, she can do what she wants. This procedure helps a lot of people, I don't have a problem with it myself, and if I ever get to that point (if I ever get over 250 lbs), I will consider it myself. However, I wouldn't do one that extreme, there are other procedures that have less risk and are more easily reversible... there is some stomach balloon that can be inflated and deflated by minor surgery, and it's inserted via laparoscopy.

This may make your mom really happy in the long run... support her in it.
post #43 of 53
I just want to add something: these surgeries are ALWAYS accompanied by intensive counseling. Yes, some patients are truly not helped by the procedure, but the initial loss of weight is often enough to motivate a patient to make lifestyle changes.

Don't judge fat people unless you've walked a mile in their shoes. This is huge pet pieve of mine (and I'm not even that fat!).
post #44 of 53
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Originally Posted by Godiva
Don't judge fat people unless you've walked a mile in their shoes. This is huge pet pieve of mine (and I'm not even that fat!).
I completely agree with that. I've never been hugely fat but I've struggled with my weight quite a bit through life. It's so easy to call someone "fat" and move on with your life...but think of the hard work that goes into losing that fat. Some people can do it on their own, some can't. I just think plastic surgery should be a last resort...but I don't consider gastric bypass cosmetic, I see it more for health reasons.
post #45 of 53
I agree. They usually don't do these kinds of treatments (if insurance is paying for it ) unless the patient has tried other methods. I definitely consider it for health... there are so many risk factors that can be reduced or eliminated through this kind of procedure. I have no idea why someone would be against it! Hello, people... let me put it this way for you--this type of surgery, in the long run, will theoretically reduce your own insurance premiums!

The only reason I can see for someone to be against it is that they are making some sort of moral judgement or issue out of being fat, and they blame the person without trying to understand.
post #46 of 53
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Originally Posted by Godiva
I just want to add something: these surgeries are ALWAYS accompanied by intensive counseling.

I was wondering about that. Thank you.
post #47 of 53
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Originally Posted by GailC
One of my BIL had gastric bypass not once but TWICE!!! The 1st time he probably only lost about 50# but did not change hi seating habits (take out pizza etc) He is a bachelor and never cooked for himself. They 2nd surgery was like 3 yrs agpo-he had to pay for himself (it was like 40K) He had complications and remained in the hospital for a longer time frame. He was 5'8" 330"-has be lost 100#-no maybe 60-70# I saw him just last week and he looked heavier again. He was trying to do some swimming and eat better however it doesn't seem to be working very well. You would like if you had to spend that money $$ out of your own pocket that it would be incentive enough to lose the weight.
another problem is that insurance companies [& some surgeons] think that Roux-n-Y is a 'one size fits all' weight loss surgery. there are several different surgeries out there, but this is the most common. for super-morbidly obese people [ i didn't make that up, BTW - it's an actual condition] longer bypasses and/or more malasorptive surgeries are more likely to be successful. also, there can be problems with hypertrophy [intestines growing back] & enlarged stomas [the passage from the new stomach to the intestine stretches, emptying the stomach more quickly]. both of these can cause regain even when the person is doing everything right.
post #48 of 53
My mom had bags under her eyes removed and the creases added unto her upper eyelids.

It didn't do anything to the marriage. I thought a friend of my Dad performed the surgery so she didn't spend a lot of money either. She felt very, very good about it for awhile, but the psychological effects are only temporary. I thought it was worth it for her. I think even thought it only brought temporary happiness, it was a welcomed relief for our family.

I was born with creases on my upper eyelids (unlike most Asian people) so I would never have to go through such a surgery. For me I much rather use expensive creams and potions, and avoid the sun.

My hubby once told me that a woman automatically looks better if the skin is smooth. My skin is smooth now. I don't think I'll need cosmetic surgery done for a long time.
post #49 of 53
Thread Starter 
Oh I don't judge fat people...I'm one of them :P

I'm atleast trying to change my lifestyle. I have cut out pop and fast food and increased exercise and to date (in about 2 1/2 weeks time) I've lost 6 lbs and I weigh in tomorrow...might be more YAY!

Anyways, I think that in the case of my mom, she should atleast try to do something about her weight before taking such a drastic measure. People need to want to do this. If there were medical reasons prevent my mom from losing weight, such as a thyroid problem then I would be more supportive. Heck, I'd be more supportive of this plan if she went and saw a dietician (sp??).

I've been reading a lot lately about this surgery and it made me sick with worry. Depending on where I read, the chance of death is anywhere from .5% to 5 % and if you don't die, there are other risks involved due to lack of being able to absorb the right nutrients, which would affect my mom in older age.
post #50 of 53
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Originally Posted by IloveSiamese
Oh I don't judge fat people...I'm one of them :P

I'm atleast trying to change my lifestyle. I have cut out pop and fast food and increased exercise and to date (in about 2 1/2 weeks time) I've lost 6 lbs and I weigh in tomorrow...might be more YAY!

Anyways, I think that in the case of my mom, she should atleast try to do something about her weight before taking such a drastic measure. People need to want to do this. If there were medical reasons prevent my mom from losing weight, such as a thyroid problem then I would be more supportive. Heck, I'd be more supportive of this plan if she went and saw a dietician (sp??).

I've been reading a lot lately about this surgery and it made me sick with worry. Depending on where I read, the chance of death is anywhere from .5% to 5 % and if you don't die, there are other risks involved due to lack of being able to absorb the right nutrients, which would affect my mom in older age.
my insurance company required nutritional & psychological counseling, as well as documented attempts at weight loss, before approving the surgery. & should she get the surgery, she will need to supplement for life in order to remain healthy - something the doctor should make clear.
post #51 of 53
Thread Starter 
I'm not sure how it works here because we don't go by insurance here....we have a universal health care system. I want to find out more about who pays for it and the requirements for getting it done.
post #52 of 53
I don't have a problem with plastic surgery. I'd kind of like a little nose job or a breast lift, mine droop and there's only so much excercise and good bras can do. My sister got breast augmentation and my mom got a face lift and nose job. She hated it at first and said her face didn't feel like her own for a long time, but she really looks lovely. Since I resemble her so much, I should start saving now for mine in 20 years. She was really quite jowly before the surgery.
post #53 of 53
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Originally Posted by Catkiki
I have known several people who have had the surgery and they look fantastic now. It isn't for everyone though.

I have had plastic surgery, but it was not for vain cosmetic reasons. I have NF and have had a few topical tumors removed. One was on my lower back and the waistband of my pants would rub it and it would cause irritation.

I would like my boobs lifted and some more of the tumors removed, but will not even consider it until I lose more weight. I am currently on a diet and have lost about 15-20 pounds. Once all my weight is lost, I might need a tummy tuck to remove the loose skin.. LOL

I probably will not even have that because since it is considered cosmetic, my insurance won't cover it.
I had to go look up NF. Very interesting!

I agree with the original poster that considering lifestyle changes is the first step. But if her Mom is determined to have the surgery, she will need to be supportive. I know several people who had it done, successfully. Gastric bypass is a major surgery, though, and not to be done without much thought!
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