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Originally Posted by ScamperFarms

And useing the manual labor excuse..I dunno while I sat thinking for a bit about it. Lots of people make Min wage, work hard and dont get tips.

Kennel staff, Horse Barn Staff...Farm workers..ect.
Darn good point.
 

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As far as tipping in a motel-hotel situation I have obseved this, A lot of poeple doing that job might not be atractive enough or have bubbely enough personalitys to work in lets say a waitress position where they can tally up great tips. Or it might be that they don't speak enough english to allow them access to better jobs so they do what they can. Housekeeping Chambermaids. If I close my eyes I can't visualize these people going home and sinking into their quilted sofa watching their 40 flat screen tv in the air conditioned parlor with the hardwood floor. A lot of these people are working for less than mimimum wage to do what they can to make ends meet. I leave them a tip. If I had a horse and somebody was taking care of it like it should be taken care of with no complaints I'd tip them too.... Probably not at the office. The hand with the shovel. I bet five bucks would go a long way when it came time to water your horse. If I can afford a horse I can afford to toss the stablehand 5 bucks now and then. Same thing when it comes to staying at a hotel for 150 bucks a night probably preluded by a 85 dollar meal. If you can do that then you probably can afford to leave 5 bucks behind. I say don't neglect the oppertunity to brighten someones day a bit that might not be as lucky as we.
 
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Originally Posted by marie-p

I never used to, until I worked in a motel myself. I was making $7 an hour (which at the time was just barely above minimum wage for people without tips) BUT I was only working 2-3 hrs a day, if I was lucky. I didn't get tips very often, but when I did, it really made my day.

Tipping every day is harder though. I know when I was cleaning a room where people were staying another day, I would never touch any money lying around. Just in case it's not a tip. I guess people could just leave a note making it clear that the money is a tip for the cleaning staff.

Usually, I'm the kind of person who tries to save money all the time... but tips are the one thing were I will usually give more than expected... because I know that people who work for tips have to deal with a lot of difficult people and they really appreciate that little bit of extra money.
That is what I was trying to say. Thank you
 
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Originally Posted by GingersMom

You don't have to agree with me. You asked a question, and I answered honestly.

I've never worked in housekeeping, but I have worked in the service industry, and I am fully aware of the rules and etiquette surrounding proper tipping across various industries. As a waitress, I worked for $2.01 an hour, plus tips. I'm no stranger to manual labor.

Here's an important note: Tips are not supposed to be EXPECTED, they are left in appreciation for a service well performed. They are not manditory, they are suggested.

Therefore, when I am paying through the nose for a hotel room, with all of the hospitality taxes added on to that, etc., etc.., and I do NOT request any additional housekeeping services beyond having my room be ready when I get there, and then them cleaning the room when I have left it - and I am NOT a pig, by the way, I make sure that the bed linens are on the bed, the towels are on the floor of the bathroom in a pile if they were used, and there are no messes that require additional cleaning - then I will NOT leave a tip.

If I do not have my room cleaned daily when I am there, then I do not tip because I have NOT used the services. If I DO use the services, then I absolutely DO leave a tip, and it is generally at least $5, because I appreciate the service provided.
I never said YOU were a pig ,I said some people are,and some times I walk into a room that has been trashed!SOME people think,ok,this is not my house,so I can make a big mess,and I do not have to clean it up. I have had pizza thrown on the celing!And worse!
 

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I am a waitress at both of my jobs.

$2.35 an hour, and they take $3.00 away from out checks everyday we work for food. Even if we dont eat (no time, not hungary), they still take that 3.00. That irks me.

ANYWAYS-Everytime we clock out, we have to put in our "declared tip" amount. Well the first couple weeks I worked there, I just put in the actual amount I got. I didnt know anything about declaring tips. But then DH asked me about whether or not I have to delcare tips, and I told him what happens.

And he was like "OMG! ONLY PUT IN 10% of your total sales!!"

I still dont get it. So scince then, I've had to print out my total sales, and just do 10% of that. Anyone know why? Cuz I sure dont.

AND..yes..tips for waitresses. Matter greatly. I'd just like to say that no matter what happened before work, you've got to put a smile on your face, and be happy. And sometimes that's almost impossible. It's like being a cheerleader for 8 hours.
So, when I'm having a bad day..I make bad tips. And that really blows. I dunno..Maybe I'm saying if the waitress does a bad job, maybe just ask her how things are in her world. I'd love to spill my beans sometimes to customers. lol.

If she's fine, and bubbly, and she's just being a bad waitress, then yeah..A dollar makes a fine statement.
 

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The Hotels in the states can be such good value.
But yes a minimum decent wage needs to be set including healthcare hotels in general can afford to pay staff!
Minimum wage is getting on for $12 a hour here.
Unless you find a deal a weekend away in Uk ( 2 nights) can easily cost $800
 

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Originally Posted by Sailfish

As far as tipping in a motel-hotel situation I have obseved this, A lot of poeple doing that job might not be atractive enough or have bubbely enough personalitys to work in lets say a waitress position where they can tally up great tips. Or it might be that they don't speak enough english to allow them access to better jobs so they do what they can. Housekeeping Chambermaids. If I close my eyes I can't visualize these people going home and sinking into their quilted sofa watching their 40 flat screen tv in the air conditioned parlor with the hardwood floor. A lot of these people are working for less than mimimum wage to do what they can to make ends meet. I leave them a tip. If I had a horse and somebody was taking care of it like it should be taken care of with no complaints I'd tip them too.... Probably not at the office. The hand with the shovel. I bet five bucks would go a long way when it came time to water your horse. If I can afford a horse I can afford to toss the stablehand 5 bucks now and then. Same thing when it comes to staying at a hotel for 150 bucks a night probably preluded by a 85 dollar meal. If you can do that then you probably can afford to leave 5 bucks behind. I say don't neglect the oppertunity to brighten someones day a bit that might not be as lucky as we.
dont bet that just cause someone can afford a horse than can afford to toss extra bucks at the stable hand. Although while it would be nice. I certainly dont expect it and every horse gets the same Good care. *it would be irresonsible IMO not to* alot of people who have horses scrimp greatly so they can keep their baby. They arent the cheapest critters.
 

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I ALWAYS tip, for any kind of service. How *MUCH* depends on the service that I've recieved. Even if the service is subpar, I still tip 15%. We've all made mistakes or had a bad day. Just because you get mediocre service doesn't mean that person isn't working hard and that they don't deserve a tip.
 

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The person at Macca's is providing a service, but I never tip them. I never tip fast food places, and I don't believe there is an expectation to. But then, I've recently moved to the US from Australia where people don't tip, so I'm still getting my head around when it's appropriate to tip and when it isn't!

I was surprised when I was asked if I would like to leave a tip at a hairdressers when I gave them my credit card. As far as I'm concerned, it's their job to provide a good service, I shouldn't like I HAVE to tip. It was also a REALLY bad haircut, and they didn't do any of the extra stuff they do in Australia (head massage, nice style at the end etc) which I never tip for.

I mean do you HAVE to give a tip for every bloody thing you do in life over here?? If the checkout person at Safeway packs the bags well and doesn't manage to break anything and puts the meat and washing detergent separately, do you give them a tip??? If not, why not??
 

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I'm sure horses arn't cheap. It might also be inapropriate to expect ones horse to get an apple while the one next to it goes without. But for shure I do understand that some horse owners are teetering on the fence as to being able to afford these animals. I can relate. I have a boat and run it out of Provincetown. Without becomming pollitical... "Jab". In the last few years everything has increases in price so fast I'm not able to keep up with it. Gasoline is headed to six bucks, Real estate taxes have doubled. Two years ago it cost 75 bucks to neuter a cat.. Now thats 150 bucks. I'm now in a position where affording the boat is questionable. So I'm going to mothball it for some years. I'm sure thats something that you can't do with a live animal. If I'm being forced into a position like this I wonder how the chambermaid or stablehand id fairing? I believe that if one can afford such luxurys, A certain sense of generousity should be attached. In some instances the government certainly thinks so. I guess I'm a people person.
 

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I never feel a tip is mandatory even though it's often expected (I don't think it's considered as mandatory over here as it is in the US). As far as I'm concerned it's simply a reward for good service. Give good service and you get a good tip (I usually give above average tips to people who are friendly, helpful and go out of their way to give good service), give poor service and you get a poor tip. Give really lousy service and there'll be no tip from me, expected or not. I see it as an opportunity to reward service and for low paid workers to earn a bit extra - earn being the key word there
I can't remember how much I earned when I worked as a maid but there was no minimum wage in this country at that time. As I grew up mostly in seaside resorts most of my early jobs were as waitress, maid etc. It just always struck me how some of those jobs (eg waiting on tables) would almost always bring a tip while others (eg maid) didn't, despite the fact that servicing someone's room for a week required a lot more work on my part than serving someone a single meal.
 

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here in germany you do not tip the people at mc donalds or any fast food place, because they are not allowed to have more money in the cashier than whats been sold.
You even get fired because its classified as "stealing customers money"
Youre only allowed to have a few cents less or more than the total sum sold in the computer/cashier thing.

I only tip when i go to bars and restaurants

I didnt tip last night at the restaurant the graduation was at because that cow was so slow and made me mad. Also my meal was ew
 

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I'm sorry but only 2 bucks an hour is absolutely rediculous!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I had no idea that minimum was so low in the states. Here in my province min wage is 7.00 dollars(CDN) per hour plus tips and it is going up to 7.50 an hour soon.
When I did housekeeping for a motel I got paid $10.00 an hour and I thought that was low, I'm shocked! that job is a lot of work.
 

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Originally Posted by lilleah

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And he was like "OMG! ONLY PUT IN 10% of your total sales!!"
Uncle Sam taxes your tips aswell if you clain them. When I waitressed I only put the minimum it would let me enter.

BTW I respect all the good waitstaff and tip them atleast 20% if the service is good or evenjust okay. If you are a sorry waitress/waitor I have been known to leave 2 cents!
 

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Originally Posted by IloveSiamese


I really understand what you are saying, especially since your min. wage isn't regulated as it is here.
It's not that our minimum isn't regulated, it's that the law sets the minimum wage much lower for jobs where tipping is customary, such as waiting tables. The theory is that because people get tips, they don't need their base pay to be as high (I could definitely go on about how absolutely ridiculous that is, but then we'd have to move this thread to IMO... )
 

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I know when I was a waitress that 2.13 min wage was taken away in taxes, because my employer "reported" my tips for me, often way more than I actually got. So really when you don't tip waitresses in America you are asking them to work for free, which is why it is so much different than not tipping a hairstylist or housekeeping or someone else who is still at least being paid for what they're doing.
 

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The US should just pay everyone minimum wage, increase the minimum wage so you can actually live off it, and then allow people to tip only if they think the service is extra good - like every other country in the world!!!

The whole tipping thing is just stupid. Why should I supplement everyone else's income, especially when I'm not even working myself.

So if I go to a hairdresser, I'm not expected to tip? What about a massage therapist? Are these the sort of services where you tip if you choose to because they've done an excellent job, not because their job expects them to live off tips?
 

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You're not supplementing a waitress's income you're paying her. There is no other income for a waitress than tips, in most places.

I agree, the wages in the US are sort of scandalous, but if they're raised likely more and more people will be unemployed as American companies move more and more jobs overseas. It's funny that Honda and Toyota are creating more jobs than the traditionally American car companies like GM and Ford.

If you can't afford to tip someone you're supposed to tip, go to a restaurant that is not full-service, cut your own hair, etc.
 

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I tip at restaurants and hotels. At hotels I usually do $5/day, but do it at the end of my stay. I also tip a lot at bars but that's so the bartender will put me first in line on the next round. I think it's very rude to not tip, especially at restaurants. A lot of my friends in highschool & college didn't tip on purpose to be jerks but I would always sneak a tip on the table anyway. I don't really agree with tipping hairstylists but I do anyway. There have been very few times whn I did not tip, and all for good reason, though I've always felt guilty afterwards.
 
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