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What kind of dog is she?

post #1 of 26
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We've had her for about 4 months now. Her name is Cebbie, and she sit, speaks, lays, and shakes. But we have no idea what kind of dog she is. At first we thought she was a Spitz, because of her long fluffy hair, shortish legs, and curled forward tailr, but she grew out of all 3 things.

This is what she looked like when we got her.


And this is what she looks like now.



And now I'm starting to think shes pregnant, because she's acting different, and her stomach stays hard as a rock..even when I go out in the mornings to feed her. haha puppies, thats all we need. =]
post #2 of 26
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Originally Posted by brittwarwi
We've had her for about 4 months now. Her name is Cebbie, and she sit, speaks, lays, and shakes. But we have no idea what kind of dog she is. At first we thought she was a Spitz, because of her long fluffy hair, shortish legs, and curled forward tailr, but she grew out of all 3 things.

This is what she looked like when we got her.


And this is what she looks like now.



And now I'm starting to think shes pregnant, because she's acting different, and her stomach stays hard as a rock..even when I go out in the mornings to feed her. haha puppies, thats all we need. =]
She is a mix...but it is difficult to know what exact mix she is given that we do not know who her mom and dad were.

So you have a pregnant dog on top of a cat that recently had a litter??? Please take her to the vet to verify this. Also, as I have stated to you before, any intact animals should remain away from other intact animals (preferably indoors only) until they are spayed/neutered. There are several low cost spay clinics in Kentucky:

KENTUCKY
Alley Cat Advocates
Serves Kentucky and southern Indiana

Web www.alleycatadvocates.org

Save the Animals Foundation
Lebanon KY
270-692-6833

web savetheanimalsky.com
Program for residents of Marion and Washington counties.

Home At Last
PO Box 144
Salvisa, KY 40372
502-839-1974
www.homeatlastanimals.org web site
Spay/neuter assistance for feral cats.

The Animal Refuge Center
PO Box 400
Vine Grove, KY 40175
502-877-6064
Offers certificates for low cost spay/neuter and vaccinations, from designated veterinarians.

Michael J. McDonald, DVM
Spay/Neuter Surgery
Lebanon Junction KY
502-955-1409


Harlan County SPCA
PO Box 11
Dayhoit KY 40824
606-573-5915
Call to learn whether assistance is available (This group depends on outside donations and on grants, so funds are not certain).

Ken-Tenn Humane Society
PO Box 1526 Fulton KY 42041
Area code 731
Email: lkiplingNOSPAM@utm.edu Remove the nospam to send email
For residents of northwest Tennessee and southwest Kentucky (Obion and Weakley Counties in Tennessee and Fulton County in Kentucky), low cost s/n for pet cats and feral cats. Also, they offer advice on how to maintain feral cat colonies.

Woodstock Low Cost Spay/Neuter Clinic
Lexington KY
859-277-SPAY

If you cannot take them to be fixed....then you should work with a rescue group to get them fixed and to place their litters. If you let me know what county you live in...I can try to find you a rescue group.

Katie
post #3 of 26
I see maybe some Border collie in her, how much does she weigh? I also second her going to the vet to be checked out, has she gone into heat yet? How old is she? Puppies are alot of work (they are very messy and if things are done correctly they are very expensive) and having un-spayed animals puts them at risk for mammary cancer and pyometra (an infection in the uterus that is life threatening and will result in an emergency spay that will cost you 4-5 times a normal spay). On top of all this you have the pet overpopulation problem, of which cats are the worst. Cats are now being labeled as pests because their are so many wild colony's of them and they are impacting the enviroments where they live. Unfortunately cats are still considered disposable by too many people and if their cats is causing problems inside the house (spraying, getting into things, etc.) then they just stick them outside and if they never come back it is no big deal, they figure they will just have better luck with the next one. So please at least get your puppy in to the vet and checked out.
post #4 of 26
I think she looks maybe collie and gold retriever? She is very cute no matter what she is.
post #5 of 26
I see Lab or Golden and Collie or Sheltie.
post #6 of 26
Golden Retriever/Border Collie. Why on earth would you not spay your mutt dog? I'm sorry, but you're putting puppies into the world with questionable medical conditions and an unknown breed mix.
post #7 of 26
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Don't get grumpy. More than half of the worlds population couldn't tell you why cats/dogs get fixed, other than having an owner who doesn't want accidents. I didn't know until I joined this forum, which is why she hasn't been spayed yet. Stop preaching, because I know now. I asked a question about breeds, not spaying or low cost clinics. The push to have your animals fixed is posted a billion or more times on this forum, and I certainly don't need every person who replies in my topic to mention it. I got it the first time.

I can't get her fixed IF she's pregnant..depending on how far along she is.
And I can't take her to the vet until I get the money.
She's been to the vet many times. Our vet always describes her as 'mixed' but never takes the time to elaborate. She's a healthy dog, and very well taken care of - don't spaz out.

She's an inside dog 90% of the time, and if she were pregnant, it would be the work of our other dog Zac. But since the kittens arrived, it's been almost impossible to keep her from carrying them off to random places in the house, so she's been banished to the front porch for a few weeks. Which isn't really a big deal, because theres a little bit of yard, with a fence around it. No dog is getting in or out of there.

Thanks to those who attempted to answer the actual question.
post #8 of 26
Britt...you also stated this dog may be pregnant...which is a valid enough reason to yet again mention the importance of spaying/neutering. Frankly, half the world isn't on this board and if they were...I'd explain the importance to them as well. I won't ask why Zac isn't neutered, why this female had not previously been spayed or why you allowed 2 intact dogs to have any interaction with each other and not think that the potential was there for pregnancy. I provided you with low cost options because right now...I count:

At least 1 intact female cat
4 intact kittens
1 intact male dog
1 intact female dog
and who knows if she is indeed pregnant...what number of puppies that would mean.

Hopefully, now that you have gotten it...you will do what is needed to ensure that this doesn't happen again.

Katie
post #9 of 26
Some of us work very hard to help all the unwanted animals out there, and who have also had to been there to hold them when their time has run out because there are not enough homes. You said money was an issue and Katie was kind enough to try to help you find places that might be cheaper for you. You would be amazed out how quickly an unspayed female cat and dog can overun you with more unspayed cats and dogs, we just want to help before it gets to that point. We are also concerned about your pets health, and spaying and neutering is in their best interest.
post #10 of 26
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I can't get her fixed IF she's pregnant..depending on how far along she is.
And I can't take her to the vet until I get the money.
She's been to the vet many times. Our vet always describes her as 'mixed' but never takes the time to elaborate. She's a healthy dog, and very well taken care of - don't spaz out.
Firstly, yes you can have her spayed if she's pregnant. Secondly, if you don't have the money you shouldn't have gotten an unspayed dog. If you were a responsible breed you'd be buying good food, and having the puppies wormed and given their first shots at a vet clinic. With the money you would spend on shots and worming,s paying is a LOT cheaper, and better on the mind because you don't have to find homes for all of the puppies.

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Which isn't really a big deal, because theres a little bit of yard, with a fence around it. No dog is getting in or out of there.
Why would you have two intact dogs? Did you think they wouldn't do anything? And dogs can and have been known to breed through fences. A female in heat will back her butt right up there no problem.

I'm sorry you're offended by the fact that I think you're an irresponsible dog owner. If you can't afford to take all of the precautions of owning an animal, you shoudn't have one.

I DID answer your question, whether you read it or not.
post #11 of 26
She looks like a golden/lab mix of some sort. The vet can't elaborate because he doesn't know. No one does for sure.

Why would you get a dog that you can't afford to spay? You may have a huge problem on your hands soon. I can't bear to think of several puppies that you can't afford to spay either.

Some people need to repeat themselves on these boards because some people just don't seem to get it.

I, for one, hope to doG you do....
post #12 of 26
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Originally Posted by brittwarwi
Don't get grumpy. . Stop preaching, because I know now. I asked a question about breeds, not spaying or low cost clinics. The push to have your animals fixed is posted a billion or more times on this forum, and I certainly don't need every person who replies in my topic to mention it. I got it the first time.
We don't mean to be snippy or grumpy. This IS an animal welfare site and we are very pro speuter. We don't know how many posts you have read and actually listened to or not. We just like to keep the animal population iundercontrol and hate to see innocent kittens and puppes be put to sleep because they couldn't find a good home. Noone is judging you are jumping your case. We just want to help educate you. It is necessary to repeat that spay/neutering is important, some people just don't understand that.



Back to your question. I have no idea what breed your cutie is but she is very pretty!!
post #13 of 26
Your dog looks like she may have several different mixes. I notice some features that are collie in the older pics, but the younger pic she looks more retriever or lab.


On the note of her being pregnant, no one is trying to say you are a bad person. I know it is hard to come up with loads of money for vet bills but it is best that you take care of the females first. If you are having a hard time paying now, imagine having a litter of pups that you don't even know what mix they are and there isn't any money in mix breed dogs, so the cycle will continue and you will just become responsible for altering even more animals.

Please consider that we only care about you and your pets and we want what's best for the animal's sake, so stop making excuses and take advantage of one of the low cost clinics and get it done before its too late.
post #14 of 26
First thing's first, welcome to TCS! To start with, she is a beautiful little girl! I'm not sure what she's mixed with...my guess would be Ibanez hound and something else like a spitz or other type hound. Eithor way, she is a lovely girl and i'm glad she found a forever home!

Also in a little side note:This basis of the cat site is to educate people on how to be responsible owners. Sometimes that means hearing the truth and even if it's not what you were prepared to hear.People who have responded to your posts were only trying to educate you on the importance of providing adequate veterinarian care for your animals and the importance of spaying/neutering, maybe it just should have been in a way that would have made you feel less threatened? Since you feel you're being preached at by the people who have already posted ( and they're not preaching, they're living it...it's a different story when you volunteer all your spare time doing shelter rescues, traping for spay/neuters, fostering kittens around the clock who have been abandoned, abused, and left homeless because nobody took the time to care for them or spay and neuter, and personally watching animals be euthanized in large numbers because people do not spay and neuter...it's different when you are in those shoes, so please try to walk in them a day and don't get as offended. The members of TCS mean well and are thinking of what's in the best interest of animals. Their hearts are in the right place, please try to remember that if you stumble across a post that rubs you the wrong way. I don't doubt for one minute that you don't love your animals- otherwise, you wouldn't have come onto this site to socialize with other animal lovers and try to educate yourself on what your pup is mixed with. So please be considerate of others who are trying to help you, as should they be considerate of your situation. Maybe nobody every explained WHY it's important instead of just telling you that you should have them altared....so i'd like to help you by letting you make up your own mind...so i'm posting a link with the pros and cons of spaying your animals...and i will let you judge for yourself. If there's anything you have a question about or need help with i'd be happy to try and help you.

I've attached the following links so that you can read them for yourself without anyone "preaching to you" to read them. This way, it's on your own terms. Hopefully this will explain why it is so important, not just wind up being a soap box sermon I really hope this helps you.

http://www.almosthomerescue.org/spay...spayneuter.htm
http://www.doghause.com/spaywhy.asp
http://www.hsus.org/pets/pet_care/wh..._your_pet.html
http://www.savesamoa.org/html/spay_neuter.html
post #15 of 26
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Originally Posted by Plebayo
Firstly, yes you can have her spayed if she's pregnant. Secondly, if you don't have the money you shouldn't have gotten an unspayed dog. If you were a responsible breed you'd be buying good food, and having the puppies wormed and given their first shots at a vet clinic. With the money you would spend on shots and worming,s paying is a LOT cheaper, and better on the mind because you don't have to find homes for all of the puppies.



Why would you have two intact dogs? Did you think they wouldn't do anything? And dogs can and have been known to breed through fences. A female in heat will back her butt right up there no problem.

I'm sorry you're offended by the fact that I think you're an irresponsible dog owner. If you can't afford to take all of the precautions of owning an animal, you shoudn't have one.

I DID answer your question, whether you read it or not.
I may be an irresponsible dog owner, according to you. But that really isn't any of your business. I didn't ask for your opinion on myself, or my dog.

I'm seventeen. I didn't pick either damn dog - they showed up out of nowhere. Judging me before you know all the facts, is pretty lame, and the facts weren't stated, because that's not what this topic is about.

have a nice day..
post #16 of 26
I know you may be pretty upset by a member calling you an irrisponsible dog owner. i would be too.

i dont mean to offend anyone but i think this definetly could have been handled better guys. i know we at this site are very pro speuter, but come on!!! are we 3? we dont have to call names. she's 17! there isnt much she can do about it! i know! i'm 15 and if my mom says no, then its no and i cant do anything about it.

please dont judge the entire site by a few rude comments that were made. we really are here to help.

please guys... i have seen this go on alot and i really think we can educate people without calling them irisponsible or whatever name. i know i wouldent want to listen if i was called irrisponsible! some people may be irrisponsible but please keep the comments like that to yourself. would you want to listen to a bunch of people who were calling you irrisponsible?

good luck with your dog... BTW she does look like collie and lab mix of some sort.
post #17 of 26
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Originally Posted by JESSIEnKITTY
I know you may be pretty upset by a member calling you an irrisponsible dog owner. i would be too.

i dont mean to offend anyone but i think this definetly could have been handled better guys. i know we at this site are very pro speuter, but come on!!! are we 3? we dont have to call names. she's 17! there isnt much she can do about it! i know! i'm 15 and if my mom says no, then its no and i cant do anything about it.

please dont judge the entire site by a few rude comments that were made. we really are here to help.

please guys... i have seen this go on alot and i really think we can educate people without calling them irisponsible or whatever name. i know i wouldent want to listen if i was called irrisponsible! some people may be irrisponsible but please keep the comments like that to yourself. would you want to listen to a bunch of people who were calling you irrisponsible?

good luck with your dog... BTW she does look like collie and lab mix of some sort.
Jessie...I can appreciate your imput..and I agree that name calling should not occur.

Britt has been to this site numerous times now and will hopefully use the information she has gained here to improve the situation for all the animals that they own.

Katie
post #18 of 26
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I may be an irresponsible dog owner, according to you. But that really isn't any of your business. I didn't ask for your opinion on myself, or my dog.

I'm seventeen. I didn't pick either damn dog - they showed up out of nowhere. Judging me before you know all the facts, is pretty lame, and the facts weren't stated, because that's not what this topic is about.
Firstly, my oppinion is free. Secondly, I don't care what the story is, or the excuse. I'm 18, and neither of my dogs [who are both rescues] have been pregnant, so unfortunatley I can't say age plays a huge role in this. I pay for all of my animals vet care and food, I'm sorry I care about the fact that you're putting more puppies and kittens out there that will be looking for homes, and taking away possible homes for the kittens and puppies already in shelters.
post #19 of 26
Thread Starter 
Your 18, and the dogs legally belong to you..and only you. That's a huge difference.
post #20 of 26
Can we lock this thread now before it becomes more of a cat fight than it already is?
post #21 of 26
Wowee! I am a member of another site about dogs and these issues happen all the time. It is natural for anyone on here to want to educate about spaying and neutering. What I see, though, is somebody who stated earlier that she didn't know the things we are saying when she first got her dog, which is why it was not spayed. She was not a member of this or any other board, and came on here to get educated and find some like-minded people. She has already stated that she understands now. Let's not drive her away from the site by banging through a message that she has said she understands - and that was learned by coming on this site in the first place.

And the point made about all the unspayed animals running around her house is a valid one. The point that she needs to get now is that waiting is NOT an option, vets will sort you out financially and let you pay things off so that you can get out of these situations quickly and prevent things from getting worse. So, Brittwarwi, that is my only advice to you. I think that perhaps, like many others, you have been inadvertently irresponsible, but hopefully will in time become very responsible, which is a wonderful thing.

Plebayo, of course your opinion is free. But what makes it relevant is how you project it. Being superior is not going to help here. Everyone who is on this site is concerned for animal welfare, not just you. It is a theme that constantly runs through our threads. However, this is a friendly, lovely site where people make an effort to understand each other, be friends and be kind. Giving this girl a hard time is not what we are about, and saying that you don't care what the story or excuse is, unfortunately, makes you the narrow minded one in this argument. Being only 18 yourself I can understand why you may not be able to see all sides of a story, but your values are to be applauded. Animal welfare is a serious issue. But more messages are received and listened to when delivered with maturity and understanding than with high-handedness and close-mindedness. More people will take what you have to say more seriously if you are able to acknowledge all sides and still make a good argument.

So, let's be friends, let's be nice, and let's leave this where it is because the points have been made and we want Birttwarwi to hang around and keep learning!
post #22 of 26
Hello. Your dog is beautiful no matter what breed, I love the ears!! Too cute!

I am not going to tell you what should be done with your dogs. But I just want to say that I think providing you with low cost clinics is a good thing for TNR1 to do. MANY people do not know they exist and just assume it will be too expensive to vet their animals and therefore don't do it. So please at least look into those places. I know that isn't what this thread is about originally but that is at least helpful and appreciative. Maybe you didn't know about low cost clinics.

One other thing too. If it is basically up to your parents to pay the vet bills since you are under 18, why don't you look into these cheaper alternatives and show them to your parents. Maybe they don't know about low cost places either. We are just trying to help. That's all. Print out some of the information about the disease and cancers that unspayed and unneutered animals can get, I mean, it is scary and maybe they don't know about that either. Tell them about the risk they are putting the dogs in. Offer to drive the dogs to the vet for the appointment if they help pay. Have you told them how important it is to do and that the dogs can get cancer if not altered? Act worried so they see and realize how important it is. Point out too that if she is or gets pregnant then you are going to have to spay and neuter all those puppies as well as vaccinate and worm them. That is going to cost a ton.

I know that altering is not what this thread was about. Aside from some of the rude comments, please just realize we are trying to help and inform you of other options then the super expensive vets. Most people would appreciate the little extra help aside from answering your original question. Please just look into those low cost clinics, you may even qualify for a free spay or neuter.
post #23 of 26
very well and maturly (SP?) said guys .
post #24 of 26
WAIT A SECONED!!! We dont need a fight now. not when there was a fight when the declawing vote came on.
post #25 of 26
Well no one is fighting at all. Plus this thread is like 5 days old and no one posted, so it was probably a done deal (bringing up an older thread is fine, but it may just start it up the tension again). I think we have said all that needs to be said. It is up to the OP if she wants to try and get her parents to be responsible and spay and neuter their dogs. And we all told her how absolutely adorable her dog is, and she is! What a cutie.
post #26 of 26
Ok. It just looked like it. SORRY PEOPLE.
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