is is hard to breed?

I was thinking of this. is hard to breed simasse or bangels? I hope my spelling is right. because my friends have them.

Thanks

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well if u want to e a good breeder its costs alot of money and most good breeders dont make a lot of money off them becouse they spend alot on vet bills ect. also most good breeders are not in it for the money they are in it to (make) the best of the breed they do it cause they like the breed

Originally Posted by KittyLova

I was thinking of this. is hard to breed simasse or bangels? I hope my spelling is right.

because my friends have them.

Thanks

one more question. how do you put pictures up?
just asking

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KittyLova...this question would be better suited in the breeder's forum as that is where you would find breeders of those particuliar breeds who can answer your questions. Just be aware, if your friends do not have breeding rights, it would be unethical for them to breed their cats.

Katie

I am sorry!! I thought this part is were you can talk about it. SORRY.

Originally Posted by KittyLova

I am sorry!! I thought this part is were you can talk about it. SORRY.

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The breeders forum is a much better place for this discussion as you will be reaching those individuals who are already breeders and can answer your question...which is why I requested that the post be moved. Hopefully with it in the correct forum, you will get the replies you are looking for.

Katie

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Yes it is hard to breed. The females can spray more than the males when they are in heat. The males call constantly and it can be so loud that sleep is difficult. Females will pee all over the place when they are in heat to leave their scent for any males (this includes the bed and other favorite places). Females in heat can also be very loud. Heaven forbid something goes wrong and the heartache that follows. Losing kittens or even the mother do happen occasionally. Then you need to find good loving homes for the kittens. Now every cat is unique and may have varying degrees of what I describe with a rare "silent heat" can occur.

Overall I think breeding can be a challenge. Its best done when you have proper facilities that are easily cleaned. Also its best if you can keep your own male, if not then you will need to look into stud services and then you have to be careful of disease getting into your cattery.

There is a great deal of cost involved.

Originally Posted by KittyLova

I am sorry!! I thought this part is were you can talk about it. SORRY.

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Your ok This is just where people talk about their pregnant cat or kittens, and if you have questions about breeding, there is a section just for breeders to discuss aspects of breeding, and breeders will be more available in that section to answer your questions. I breed cats, just not the breeds you are asking about, I do believe some breeds are more complex, for example, persians have the shorter face and can or may have more difficulties in birthing kittens, and cats like manx (tailless) and folded/curled eared cats (scottish folds, american curls) have problems occur if you are breeding a folded to another folded, some or all of the kittens can die, so some breeds are more difficult to breed then others, I don't think siamese have lots of problems,(I am not sure though, I don't breed those either) but I am unsure of Bengals, it is a relitively new breed, and some earlier generation males are sterile, but other than that, I don't know if there are a lot of difficulties in breeding them, other then expenses, which is true of all breeds As some one has already stated, if they intend to breed them, they need to be sure they have breeding rights, first of all, getting a mentor is very helpfull too. There is a lot involved in breeding any breed, it's not as simple as placing two cats together to breed, the pair should be good to breed together, so they produce the best quality, they should have testing done appropriate for the breed, and lots and lots of vet bills, for de-worming, shots for kittens, altering each kitten before placing it, as well as just being prepared for any problems the queen may have during pregnancy and delivery, if any problems occur, you will want to have an emergancy vet on hand, the queen may need help, whether it is oxcytocin to help move labor on to a c-section. So It could be very costly to breed if any thing comes up like that. I hope this gives you some idea of breeding, in general, and hopefully, some one with expirience with those breeds can give you some breed specifics.

No its not hard to breed, but the better question is it WISE to breed? Breeding just cause you have a purebred is the main WRONG reason to breed. A good breeder studies the breed for years, shows the "chosen" breed to understand the quality, etc. Knows the health concerns associated with the breed. And really should have some basic genetic knowledge.

They also know how to read a pedigree and what to look for in good cats. You want to improve the breed - not just breed a cat for the sake of making money, or having a litter of cute kittens, or wanting a cat just like...(fill in the blank).

What are YOUR intentions for breeding?

I was not tring to breed cats. I just wanted to know. I am 21. and working in petsmart. I just see baby kittens and puppies. Thats why I asked.

It is hard to breed responsibly.
Doing it badly is easy.

IMO the only valid reason to breed any species the world is already full of is if you are making better ones than already exist. This means that you have to find the very best queen you can find, and get someone to sell it to you. In order to even get that far requires an investment of time as no breeder is going to sell you something this nice on faith alone- you have to earn it. You do so by learning everything you can about the breed, and cat care in general. You have to learn about every health issue known in the breed, and the inheritance of each.

Then you have to know the pedigree of your queen inside out, and find out as much as possible about every sibling of every ancestor. Genetics is a subject that is endlessly fascinating and equally complicated, and traits are not simply passed down from parents to offspring. There are recessive genes that remain hidden, dominant genes which mask other genes, and genes with incomplete penetrance that manifest only when combined with other genes. How will you avoid genetic disease without understanding what is behind your breeding queen?

Then you have to find a suitable stud, and if you thought understanding the genetics of one animal was hard, try putting two together on paper and understanding what the results might be. You have to think about everything!

Add to this the initial cost of the breeding animal, the veterinary costs, the housing and management requirements or owning intact cats (which is a whole 'nother chapter) and you have just scratched the surface of what it takes to be a good breeder.

And if everything goes perfectly (and it hardly ever does), the breeding takes, the kittens survive gestation, the delivery goes without a hitch, and the kittens survive their first months then you are faced with the most daunting task of all. You have to talk to strangers who want to buy your precious kittens. Here you've worked for years to get to this point, and you have to screen people until you find suitable buyers and watch them walk out the door with your darlings?? Sure, you will keep the best for yourself, but you can't keep them all. And to me if you bring an animal into this world you are responsible for it. So it is entirely up to you to see that all kittens go into good, secure homes where they will be loved and cared for.

And even then you aren't done. You are the support system for this kitten and its family for the rest of its life. The family will look to you for help and advice and you must always remember what it feels like to be new and full of questions. You can't ever be too busy or unconcerned to care about that cat.

It takes a very special, dedicated person to become a responsible breeder. I say leave it to them and don't crab at them about how much they charge. Just thank God they were willing to invest the time, money, and tears that provide you with that perfect ball of fluff.
Just kiss 'em on the cheek and write that check with a smile- you're lucky to have found them.