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post #1 of 29
6/8/06 at 6:56am
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http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/...awi/index.html

Finally - a breakthrough and hopefully this will turn the tide...
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post #2 of 29
6/8/06 at 7:09am
I'm sure there are dozens willing and able to take his place.
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post #3 of 29
6/8/06 at 7:26am
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Originally Posted by Yosemite
I'm sure there are dozens willing and able to take his place.
Unfourtunatley you are probably right
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post #4 of 29
6/8/06 at 7:47am
You know I heard this driving to work on Bob and Sheri. My first thought was GOOD!!! But how can I sit here and be glad someone is dead. Is that odd to anyone else? But I have to agree that there are some of his minions that are eager and willing to take his place.
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post #5 of 29
6/8/06 at 7:59am
There maybe thousands that may want to take his place, however, I don't see this happening successfully, at least in the next few months. There will be a lot of infighting among groups (which well, there has been anways) but we did get the guy who commanded a lot of people. We got a guy that some thought to be a god. I am glad though that he is gone personally.
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post #6 of 29
6/8/06 at 8:15am
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Originally Posted by Phenomsmom
You know I heard this driving to work on Bob and Sheri. My first thought was GOOD!!! But how can I sit here and be glad someone is dead. Is that odd to anyone else? But I have to agree that there are some of his minions that are eager and willing to take his place.
My supervisor and I talked about that this morning, how it's kinda disturbing that we're almost celebrating someone's death. But then, did the world celebrate the deaths of the Nazi Generals? Didn't many in the US almost celebrate when Ted Bundy was executed? I don't think that we're celebrating someone's death, but rather the end of an evil being (from our point of view).
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post #7 of 29
6/8/06 at 8:18am
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Originally Posted by valanhb
My supervisor and I talked about that this morning, how it's kinda disturbing that we're almost celebrating someone's death. But then, did the world celebrate the deaths of the Nazi Generals? Didn't many in the US almost celebrate when Ted Bundy was executed? I don't think that we're celebrating someone's death, but rather the end of an evil being (from our point of view).

I agree. But in their opinion we have invaded their homeland and killed many civilians and are the "evil beings". I am just playing devil's advocate here. I am glad we are slowly making progress in this war on terror.
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post #8 of 29
6/8/06 at 9:09am
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post #9 of 29
6/8/06 at 9:10am
This won't change anything
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post #10 of 29
6/8/06 at 9:17am
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Originally Posted by eburgess
This won't change anything
No it wont but it still feels good to send an evil person to hell.
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post #11 of 29
6/8/06 at 10:10am
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Originally Posted by Phenomsmom
I agree. But in their opinion we have invaded their homeland and killed many civilians and are the "evil beings". I am just playing devil's advocate here. I am glad we are slowly making progress in this war on terror.
But al Zarkawi was a Jordanian, not an Iraqi, so "homeland" really doesn't apply.
I wonder who will get the $25 million?
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post #12 of 29
6/8/06 at 10:44am
I was wondering about the fact that it is against the law in the USA to assassinate people. Wasn't this an assassination? Or...is it okay to assassinate during a war?

I think his death (and that of his aides) is probably a good thing, though I have already heard of a flurry of reprisal killings in response to his death.
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post #13 of 29
6/8/06 at 10:53am
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Originally Posted by Yosemite
I'm sure there are dozens willing and able to take his place.
But only one was organized and coherent enough to do it.

That's what people say about gang control (Al Quida is nothing but a gang in my opinion). A lot of people say why do we keep going after the head hunchos if the evil minions will only take place. What happens everytime we kill or capture a head huncho is that the gang start to fractionate and turn against each other.
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post #14 of 29
6/8/06 at 11:32am
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Originally Posted by lotsocats
I was wondering about the fact that it is against the law in the USA to assassinate people. Wasn't this an assassination? Or...is it okay to assassinate during a war?
If I remember correctly, it is against the law that Carter signed back in the 70's to assassinate a leader of a country. However, with this situation, this would not be considered a hit or what have you or even near an assassination. We just took out the command and control structure in sense. Now if we took out the Iranian president, that would be a different story.
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post #15 of 29
6/8/06 at 11:34am
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Originally Posted by eburgess
This won't change anything
And you know this how? Are you over there in Iraq right now? Do you know the structure of Al Queda (sp) in Iraq that this death won't make a difference? Do you know his Lt.'s that wasn't hit that would possibly taking over his position after the infighting is over with?
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post #16 of 29
6/8/06 at 11:43am
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Originally Posted by Phenomsmom
I agree. But in their opinion we have invaded their homeland and killed many civilians and are the "evil beings". I am just playing devil's advocate here. I am glad we are slowly making progress in this war on terror.
Timothy McVeigh said about the Oklahoma bombing "They may be individually innocent, but they were part of the --the evil empire, they --they were all guilty by association"

http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/proj...eightrial.html
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post #17 of 29
6/8/06 at 11:59am
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Originally Posted by Arg0
And you know this how? Are you over there in Iraq right now? Do you know the structure of Al Queda (sp) in Iraq that this death won't make a difference? Do you know his Lt.'s that wasn't hit that would possibly taking over his position after the infighting is over with?
Has killing anyone al Qaeda leader changed anything? No. What this does is enrage his supporters, making more enemies, and for some strenghtening the anti-US feelings. There is always going to be someone to take over for the cause, no matter how sick as the cause may be.
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post #18 of 29
6/8/06 at 12:11pm
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Originally Posted by eburgess
Has killing anyone al Qaeda leader changed anything? No. What this does is enrage his supporters, making more enemies, and for some strenghtening the anti-US feelings. There is always going to be someone to take over for the cause, no matter how sick as the cause may be.
Will they hate the West and non-Islamist governments in Islamic countries more than they already do? Possibly, but is that really going to make much difference? Finding somebody with al Zarkawi's organizational talents may prove difficult, and since news reports are mentioning "inside information", whether it's true or not, there may very well be a lot of suspicion and infighting among his immediate followers, which will at least set them back for a bit.
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post #19 of 29
6/8/06 at 12:21pm
Isn't there a threshold of hatred that people have to the point if they pass the threshold they don't feel hatred anymore, only numbness?

I am not sure if it is possible for the terrorists to hold even more hatred than they already have. The reason why they are terrorists in the first place is their hearts are already filled with hatred.
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post #20 of 29
6/8/06 at 7:41pm
Terrorism will always be around. Yes this leader is dead, but he has henchmen, and there are many others alike, and they have sworn revenge.

Unfortunately, I don't think we will see the end of terrorism in our time.
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post #21 of 29
6/9/06 at 1:05am
I read in this morning's paper that Zarqawi was considered by the al-qaida leadership to be a 'loose cannon'. If this is true they will probably be glad to get rid of him too. Unfortunately they have another reason to be happy, this also gives them the perfect excuse for more terrorism, they would see it as reprisals.
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post #22 of 29
6/9/06 at 1:15am
He's took his seat in hell
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post #23 of 29
6/9/06 at 7:59am
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Originally Posted by rosiemac
He's took his seat in hell
I couldn't say it better myself

Good riddance to IT
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post #24 of 29
6/9/06 at 8:19am
I just got through reading that he was alive after the blast but mortally wounded. They said that he mumbled somehting and the tried to roll off the stretcher. they think he might have been trying to get away.
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post #25 of 29
6/9/06 at 10:18am
Al Jazeera has an obituary: http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exer...7E14D40AEA.htm
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post #26 of 29
6/9/06 at 10:28am
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Originally Posted by Yosemite
I'm sure there are dozens willing and able to take his place.

Gotta agree with you. Although it's a good thing he's out of the picture, anyone who thinks the war is now over is unfortunately going to be surprised..
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post #27 of 29
6/9/06 at 11:50am
Well, I think the "dozen" all believed that they should be the head huncho, so there is going to be disarray, confusion, and inwards fighting for quite awhile.

At least that's what I hope.
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post #28 of 29
6/10/06 at 7:06pm
Good riddance! I hope he won't be the last one they find and destroy.
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post #29 of 29
6/21/06 at 9:25am
I am glad he is dead.

He had a much easier death then the dozens of people he ordered beheaded.

Someone will replace him but it is still a victory and a much needed morale boost for our military fighting this war on terror.

We have to keep fighting.
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