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Who voted in the 2004 election?

post #1 of 53
6/5/06 at 12:48pm
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On the heels of the thread in the IMO forum I was just curious as to see just how many of us actually voted in the 2004 election and if you feel comfortable saying who you voted for!
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post #2 of 53
6/5/06 at 12:56pm
I voted, but I did not vote for the Presidential race because there was no candidate I felt good about choosing.
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post #3 of 53
6/5/06 at 12:57pm
I voted Republican for everything but I voted for a Libertarian for senate. Simply because there was no doubt the Republican candidate would win more than 75% of the votes and I believed it is important for the Libertarian party to survive in this part of Texas in order to provide peace and balance.

I voted no for all the proposals because all of them costed more than we could afford at the time. I am not a big fan of cities selling bonds.

I still stand by my votes now. My husband voted the same.
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post #4 of 53
6/5/06 at 1:25pm
This is really more of an IMO topic. We try to keep politics out of the Lounge, but I believe that anyone can vote in the poll in IMO even if they can't post.
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post #5 of 53
6/5/06 at 1:32pm
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Originally Posted by valanhb
This is really more of an IMO topic. We try to keep politics out of the Lounge, but I believe that anyone can vote in the poll in IMO even if they can't post.
I thought EXACTLY the same thing. I didn't say anything because it would be "back seat moderating".
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post #6 of 53
6/5/06 at 3:35pm
I voted for Kerry and pretty much all-Democrat, except for one Republican. I'm not a straight ticket voter by any means, but I tend to end up voting democrat, with one or two exceptions each election.
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post #7 of 53
6/5/06 at 8:02pm
I voted for Kerry in 2004. In 2000 I was a Bush supporter (how things can change) but actually voted for Ralph nader because I knew Bush would lose NY anyway and thought it would be good to support a 3rd party. I always vote for republican judges, and always support Shumer but beyond that its the best man (or woman) will get my vote.
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post #8 of 53
6/6/06 at 5:14am
I have voted in EVERY election, since 1976 (the first one that I was eligible to vote in).
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post #9 of 53
6/6/06 at 5:27am
I have voted in every election from 1976 - until this year's primary. (I was in bed recouping from the accident - sigh...)

Looks like Katl8e and I are about the same age.
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post #10 of 53
6/6/06 at 5:31am
In 2004 I voted for Kerry, not because I wanted to, but because I didn't want to vote for Bush. In 2000 I voted for Nader, which was synonymous with throwing away my vote. I hate the 2 party system.
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post #11 of 53
6/6/06 at 11:15am
After two decades of being disenfranchised (I'm an ex-pat), I was thrilled to be able to vote in the 2004 elections, and also voted in my home state's primaries this year. I generally vote a split ticket. My motto in 2004 was, "Anybody but Bush", because I frankly think he's been the worst president in my memory (and I'm old enough to remember Kennedy, so that includes a fair number of presidents).
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post #12 of 53
6/6/06 at 11:19am
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Originally Posted by katl8e
I have voted in EVERY election, since 1976 (the first one that I was eligible to vote in).
Same here!!! I have voted for every election since 2003 (when I became a citizen.

I also read my newspapers and listen to my NPR. TV news are too shallow
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post #13 of 53
6/6/06 at 11:20am
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Originally Posted by Rockcat
In 2004 I voted for Kerry, not because I wanted to, but because I didn't want to vote for Bush. In 2000 I voted for Nader, which was synonymous with throwing away my vote. I hate the 2 party system.
I actually liked Nadar. I thought he provides a good balance.
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post #14 of 53
6/6/06 at 11:22am
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Originally Posted by jcat
After two decades of being disenfranchised (I'm an ex-pat), I was thrilled to be able to vote in the 2004 elections, and also voted in my home state's primaries this year. I generally vote a split ticket. My motto in 2004 was, "Anybody but Bush", because I frankly think he's been the worst president in my memory (and I'm old enough to remember Kennedy, so that includes a fair number of presidents).
I thought Nixon and Taft were the worst presidents.........
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post #15 of 53
6/6/06 at 11:32am
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Originally Posted by shengmei
I thought Nixon and Taft were the worst presidents.........
Nixon re-established relations with China, and pulled us out of the Vietnam mess. He's remembered for Watergate, but other presidents have been just as "dirty". When Bush "won" his first election, I actually stated, "Well, he can't be worse than Reagan!". At the time I was thinking of the whole Iran-Contra mess, the shortsightedness of his Administration's policy in Afghanistan (the Soviet Union actually did warn the U.S. of the danger of Islamicists when it decided to pull out of Afghanistan), the state of the economy and the national debt. Well, I'd choke on those words today.
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post #16 of 53
6/6/06 at 11:37am
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Originally Posted by jcat
Nixon re-established relations with China
Some people would think that is a bad thing!!! Because of Nixon Taiwan was kicked out of the United Nations. As the result China now has 1/5 (or more) control of the United Nations. As the result China was able to gain the trust of many presidents in South America. As the result many presidents in South America is now controled by anti-American, pro-Caestro socialists.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4872522.stm

A lot of people also believe if we only stayed in Vietnam and Korea a little longer millions of political refugees wouldn't be slaughtered.
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post #17 of 53
6/6/06 at 11:37am
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Originally Posted by shengmei
I actually liked Nadar. I thought he provides a good balance.
Oh, me too. What I meant by "throwing away my vote" was that Nader couldn't possibly get enough votes to win.
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post #18 of 53
6/6/06 at 11:40am
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Originally Posted by Rockcat
Oh, me too. What I meant by "throwing away my vote" was that Nader couldn't possibly get enough votes to win.
Winning isn't everything.

In politics, most people win the battle and lose the war.
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post #19 of 53
6/6/06 at 11:42am
The first election I could vote in for president (i have been voteing in my state stuff since 2001) I voted for Kerry. Proud to say it too. because i rember muttering about the 2000 election and that I wouldnt have voted for bush than either.
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post #20 of 53
6/6/06 at 11:46am
I was thinking though........Kerry was literally the richest politician in the U.S. (richer than Cheney). So I was kinda aggrevated when he was selected to be the presidential candidate for the Democrats.

Since Bush was so embattered, surely they could have found someone better than Kerry who could actually carry the election. I would have voted for Lieberman or Ted Kennedy if they were on the ballet. Kerry had the money and the influence, but there were better people in the Democrat party.

Edited to add: It bothers me greatly that people like Dean can build a complete presidential platform based on the supposed inadequacy of Bush. Presidential platforms are supposed to showcase one's adequacy for the presidency, not your opponent's inadequacy. Such a platform would only serve to fragment the Democrat party since a lot of them think they are better than Bush and therefore worthy of presidency.
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post #21 of 53
6/6/06 at 12:21pm
I voted for Bush--wouldn't change it either.
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post #22 of 53
6/6/06 at 12:43pm
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Originally Posted by shengmei
Some people would think that is a bad thing!!! Because of Nixon Taiwan was kicked out of the United Nations. As the result China now has 1/5 (or more) control of the United Nations. As the result China was able to gain the trust of many presidents in South America. As the result many presidents in South America is now controled by anti-American, pro-Caestro socialists.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4872522.stm

A lot of people also believe if we only stayed in Vietnam and Korea a little longer millions of political refugees wouldn't be slaughtered.
It was pure realpolitik. There's no way a country with 1.3 billion people and average annual economic growth of c. 10% can be ignored or contained. Who are the superpowers of the 22nd century going to be? China, and probably India. China wants/needs fuel and raw materials, hence its growing involvement in SA.
Could the Korean and Vietnam wars have been won by the U.S.? Look at Iraq and Afghanistan; the country's military might does have its limits, as does Americans' patience. Haditha, following Abu Ghraib as it does, appears to be developing into another My Lai.
To get back on topic, my problem is with politicians who are driven primarily by ideology, as far too many of them have brought about their countries' (near) destruction.
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post #23 of 53
6/6/06 at 12:52pm
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Originally Posted by jcat
To get back on topic, my problem is with politicians who are driven primarily by ideology, as far too many of them have brought about their countries' (near) destruction.
I would actually think most politicans are driven by their beliefs and ideologies. It is a double-edged sword. It is capable of great evil but also capable of great good.
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post #24 of 53
6/6/06 at 12:52pm
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I voted for Bush. I am actually pretty happy with the way things have gone so far. I know a lot of people don't agree with everything he has done but who does agree with the way every single presidency has gone? He has also had one of the only attacks on US soil to deal with. I believe it was FDR who had to deal with the other attack (Pearl Harbor) please correct me if I am wrong about FDR. I just think about how maybe Kerry would have handled it or another candidate would have handled it.
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post #25 of 53
6/6/06 at 12:56pm
If you ever read newspapers from the 20s to the 40s, you would have believed that every single president back then were the worst president in the U.S. ...............

I just think that the Media would have us believe whoever is in charge is the worst president in the U.S. Sensationalism sells, sometimes even better than sex.

I have no doubt the media would call our next president the worst president in the U.S. as well.................

Personally I think all of our presidents are fine. I believe our next president would also be fine. People chew them out too much.
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post #26 of 53
6/6/06 at 2:11pm
Recommended reading on how successive administrations can mess things up:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/014...Fencoding=UTF8
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post #27 of 53
6/6/06 at 2:15pm
I actually saw him promoting the book on the Daily Show with Jon Stewart.

I am going to see if I can check out the book from the library. I probably won't buy the book, though....simply because I did not like the dude's demeanor.
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post #28 of 53
6/6/06 at 2:17pm
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Originally Posted by Phenomsmom
I voted for Bush. I am actually pretty happy with the way things have gone so far. I know a lot of people don't agree with everything he has done but who does agree with the way every single presidency has gone? He has also had one of the only attacks on US soil to deal with. I believe it was FDR who had to deal with the other attack (Pearl Harbor) please correct me if I am wrong about FDR. I just think about how maybe Kerry would have handled it or another candidate would have handled it.
Its a thought. but the attacks happened in his first term. While i agree we had to do something and we did. But i find it...angering that the man that conducted that attack is still free. While we focus all our efforts on iraq. which..didnt have any weapons of mass destruction which was the whole preach of why we started in on them. but thats another thread.

While its interesting to think of how Kerry would have handled the attack on 9-11 he wasnt part in that race.
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post #29 of 53
6/6/06 at 2:51pm
I did vote, and I voted for Bush. I don't like many of the things he's been pushing in this second term - the immigration debate, more and more and more spending, the gay marriage thing - I still know for sure that I'm very glad Kerry didn't win.

One thing I do want to point out is that the economy, in general, is doing well. The oil and gas prices may be hosing that up, but you can't blame Bush because Chavez is a jerk and Iran's president is a psycho, nor that China and India are becoming huge oil consuming nations and there isn't enough to go around. But if you listen to the media, this may as well be the Great Depression for how they report. I think the media thrives on the fact that the Average Joe doesn't want to understand or can't understand anything larger than his immediate surroundings to blow everything - with any President - out of proportion.
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post #30 of 53
6/6/06 at 2:56pm
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Originally Posted by valanhb
you can't blame Bush because Chavez is a jerk and Iran's president is a psycho,
Ain't that the truth!!!

Edited to add: Call me isolationist, but I cannot see any other president that is better than ours. It seems all presidents have lots of faults that only people in their own countries focus on.
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