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post #1 of 21
Thread Starter 
Don't read this if you have a weak stomach.
http://www.7days.ae/2006/05/25/could...s-kitten.html?
post #2 of 21
Hmm, so who wants to throw these folks onto a freeway to see how long they dodge the cars?

*sees many raised hands*

Thought so.

((Disclaimer: I am not advocating murder; but sometimes pretending to threaten it is the best way to make your feelings known.))
post #3 of 21
That is just...so vile and disgusting.

What disturbs me about it even more than the actual act is the lack of compassion and respect for life - for ANY life - that has to occur for anyone to do this type of thing. A car dodging the poor cat on the road could easily crash and kill the driver - or cause a major pileup killing more than one person. It's not just about the cat, although that in and of itself is disturbing enough.
post #4 of 21
I am trying to get up the *nerve* to read that article......kinda worried to now.
post #5 of 21
I actually got sick to my stomach reading that.
Although sadly enough it probably is due to the modernization of the country... you can only play games like Grand Theft Auto so many times before you want to swerve your car into the one next to you just for fun. Growing up in the modern world you forget that life is fragile because it's so cheap. And they are right next door to the most violent country in the mid East.

Poor cats. Do any of them make it okay I wonder? I hope so.
post #6 of 21
Thread Starter 
it's revolting
post #7 of 21
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Originally Posted by Zissou'sMom
you can only play games like Grand Theft Auto so many times before you want to swerve your car into the one next to you just for fun.
Please don't blame video games. That's the worst cop-out ever. I know plenty of people who have played violent video games all of their lives, and not one of them has ever intentionally harmed another living thing. I also know plenty of people who never looked at a video game console and would just as soon shoot a dog as pet it.
How about, let's blame the parents. I wonder if they have anything to do with it?
But entertainment always makes an easy scape goat.


As for the article, I am afraid to read it. From what I gather, it's not pretty, and is the product of sick individuals behaving like sick individuals do. Very sad.
post #8 of 21
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Originally Posted by Zoe'n'MissKitty
Please don't blame video games. That's the worst cop-out ever. I know plenty of people who have played violent video games all of their lives, and not one of them has ever intentionally harmed another living thing. I also know plenty of people who never looked at a video game console and would just as soon shoot a dog as pet it.
How about, let's blame the parents. I wonder if they have anything to do with it?
But entertainment always makes an easy scape goat.


As for the article, I am afraid to read it. From what I gather, it's not pretty, and is the product of sick individuals behaving like sick individuals do. Very sad.

I have to disagree with the cop-out part. While you may know many people who are not affected by that type of violence, you cannot deny that there are some people who are affected. I am not saying that video games are the sole cause, but they should be considered as a contributing factor.

Plus this type of "entertainment" is definately desensitizing our youth with it's mindless violence.

I also think parents should be held responsible, atleast in part. I know for myself that I do not let my son play any type of vidoe games and I try to limit his intake of t.v., unless eductional or I have watched it first.

Perhaps if the parents as well as the kids were punished with fines and labor?? then the parents would make sure they know what their kids are doing and the kids might think twice if they know their parents are going to be involved too.
post #9 of 21
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zoe'n'MissKitty
Please don't blame video games. That's the worst cop-out ever. I know plenty of people who have played violent video games all of their lives, and not one of them has ever intentionally harmed another living thing. I also know plenty of people who never looked at a video game console and would just as soon shoot a dog as pet it.
How about, let's blame the parents. I wonder if they have anything to do with it?
But entertainment always makes an easy scape goat.


As for the article, I am afraid to read it. From what I gather, it's not pretty, and is the product of sick individuals behaving like sick individuals do. Very sad.
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I agree. I've played violent games for over a decade and I can rationalize between a TV screen and reality. (and for the record, I played GTA for YEARS and never, once had the urge to stab, shoot, or swerve into ANYONE, tyvm.) People who play video games, then go out and kill have something off, either in their life, brain, or both beforehand.

You do not see children running out and jumping on small animals after playing Super Mario Brothers (or at least never hear about it). Children going out and shoots people "because of GTA" is a crock. Who gave them access to loaded weapons and neither bothered to teach them how to treat people? Who bought them the games which were rated at a maturity level far higher than recommended for their ages? Rockstar Games sure didn't.

And why choose to scapegoat GTA for this (if you absolutely MUST blame some big corporation instead of the child's parents who didn't teach them the proper way to treat animals)?? Because it is the one the media chose to sensationalize? It has no content like this. This sounds far more in line with Frogger, if anything.

If more people would actually parent their children and supervise their activities at home instead of dropping them in front of an electronic babysitter while expecting them to keep it on PBS (and quit buying any and everything jr wants without bothering to read the label or research it first), this problem caused by "the evil giant video game company" would most likely start fixing itself. I am not saying that this is every parent's profile, but there are quite a few like this out there.

Murders, both bizarre and normal, occured way before the tv was even invented. Explain those. Rape existed before printed material (and therefore porn). Explain that. Who can you point fingers at then??? What big, faceless entity is responsible for the crimes which came before any widespread media existed?
post #10 of 21
Quote:
Originally Posted by Callista
Hmm, so who wants to throw these folks onto a freeway to see how long they dodge the cars?

*sees many raised hands*

Thought so.

((Disclaimer: I am not advocating murder; but sometimes pretending to threaten it is the best way to make your feelings known.))
That's the first thing that came to my mind.

As for the video games such as GTA, i agree and disagree about blaming video games.
There are two types of people of out there that react towards violence. Those that are "calmed" by using games that are extremely violent and there are those that are driven by violence and can't get enough of it.
I'm a person that is calmed by video games. I've met people that get angrier at while playing violent games and I've seen their fist go through the wall and still continue to vent about what happened.

I think in the end its just pure boredom for these kids. Have their parents get them involved in after school activities...not "hanging out"
post #11 of 21
Oh geez. It was simply an example of what happens, in general, when the sort of cultural material that most people consider "modern" gets into a new culture where it wasn't before. I'm not blaming video games, I'm not Tipper Gore. I'm 21 and I own a PS2! I am not saying that these kids played a video game and then went out and killed kittens. I'm saying that when you have a violent culture, violent things happen. The enjoyment of violent movies, songs, games, etc is a symptom of a violent culture. Note that I am not saying person. I am not a violent person and I enjoy these things as well. But America has a violent culture.
And the UAE has a violent culture. It was a response to the person who said that being modern is more than just having the most expensive hotel in the world and such. And I doubt this would have happened before they became "modern".

Anyway, obviously when it comes right down to it anyone's action are their own responsibility, and these children are sick and disturbed. And they certainly should use the traffic laws to punish them, as the article says that the traffic laws would be harsher than the animal cruelty laws. Maybe we could get back to the debate at hand, ey?
post #12 of 21
I'm on a soap box today (it was a loooooong weekend at the shelter), but perhaps animals would end up in the hands of these sick individuals less often if people were more responsible and accountable with their pets. I'm talking about everything from spaying them to keeping them inside unless on a lead or in a special enclosed area to being serious about committing to an animal for its entire life, come hell or high water.

I realize that you can't completely blame animal cruelty on the fact the pet parents can be really irresponsible, because when it comes down to it, animal cruelty is a sociopathic behavior that needs to be dealt with as such. But maybe if all the pet parents took steps to be 100% accountable and shelters and breeders took steps to be 100% responsible for every life in their care for the entire duration of the animal's life, then I really think you'd see fewer such tradgedies.
post #13 of 21
K-got up the nerve to finally read it People are just so disgusting and terrible! I just wonder how they would feel it that was them being tossed onto a freeway and having to dodge vehicles. Man I hope they seriously get some help and in some deep trouble! Arghh...makes me sick!
post #14 of 21
Thread Starter 
Maybe you can all do the cats a favour and email your local news papers and ask them to feature a small article on this. People need to know, and hopefully if this gets enough exposure it will encourage the local government to do something.

Especially since Dubai is not the kind of country where there are other more pressing issues to deal with. There is no crime, no poverty, no homeless people etc. etc.

This is the sort of thing that should be addressed especially since it CAN easily be addressed here.
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post #16 of 21
I'd like to toss them and see how they like it!!
post #17 of 21
Dubai is modern I have been there. This story could have happened anywhere the kids were "bored" and decided to "entertain" themselves. This is a product of children who do not spend much time with their parents which is becoming a pretty international concept.

Animal Rights has far to go but this not just in the middle east I have heard of many cases in the US and UK where animal killers are simply fined with no jail time.

RIP little kitties.
post #18 of 21
The stupid idiots!! Theres no excuses for what they do IMO.
post #19 of 21
Yeah I can't get past it. I was just pointing out that this was not something unique to Dubai or had anything to do with how "modern" it is. Animal cruelty is everywhere and this story could have occured anywhere in the world (including US and UK).
post #20 of 21
OH the 's

There is no excuse for what they are doing, the sick

I would just love to catch someone trying that and The living daylights out of them
post #21 of 21
I think perhaps the same sort of people that are attracted to violence in real life are also attracted to violent video games. Violent people tend to seek out violence.

However, I don't think playing violent video games actually *causes* real-life violence. There's a corellation but no cause-and-effect relationship: I think it's the other way around--people who are already violent will seek out these sorts of games; but most people who play these games did not seek them out because the games are violent, but because they find them entertaining and exciting.

And as has been said already, some of us here--who are some of the gentlest and kindes people I've met in a long time--play violent games. I used to play quite a lot of these sorts of games (computer, in my case; not video) in my early teens myself. (I've grown out of them now; I like strategy games like Rogue and its cousins nowadays). There's just something about pretending your life is in danger... the excitement of fighting for your life, without the fear involved... I think maybe it's ersatz risk-taking; learning about life, adjusting to the reality of death, without actually putting yourself in danger.

As it is, anyone caught throwing kittens onto highways can be prosecuted not just for animal abuse but for endangering the drivers on the road. Jail time, at the very least, can result; and if (God forbid) these people kill anyone, they could be prosecuted for murder (though probably only convicted of manslaughter or reckless endangerment).
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