Originally Posted by Zissou'sMom
"There are a lot of people out there that are intent on undermining the animal welfare activists and the only way they can achieve to undermine their credibility is to turn the people who support them against them."
And PeTA is a main cause of it. They aren't real animal activists the way people who run no-kill shelters or TNR programs and such are, but they use extreme, immoral measures that turn everyone else against the people who actually are trying to help. I am not about to support an organization like that, even though I do support the cause of the actual animals. I'm sure there are people who are members of it who don't act like lunatics and don't vandalize, etc, but the organization as a whole infuriates me. They do more harm than good...as the statistics posted sort of, well, prove.
And maybe the pictures don't show anything cruel (though, they sure do to me!) but I think it's ridiculous to give them the benefit of the doubt after the smear campaigns they've gone on with far less evidence of anything aside from animals who had been sedated for who knows what reason, possibly a legitimate one.
Like the site says, if they weren't doing it, they'd be protesting it. And do you know what you have to do to get a felony animal abuse charge in North Carolina? It has to be bad. And this was.
I do not doubt for one minute that there are some 'bad eggs' in Peta that do immoral and abhorrent acts,Just as there are in any organisation.
It is up to the organisation to weed out these people and yes i agree with you they do a hell of a lot more harm than good.If there were more decent people with the RIGHT attitude to animal activism WILLING to get involved,then they would not be so desperate to have those kinds of fanatics anywhere near their organisation.
You say its ridiculous to give them the benefit of the doubt after the smear campaigns they have gone on, with far less evidence and yet you are prepared to accept those pictures on face value, Maybe i'm wrong but .....I thought in america a person was innocent until proven guilty?
I do know through my personal experience of an ongoing animal abuse/welfare issue here in the uk(can't go into right now),That even with a lot of evidence it will be very difficult to prove abuse of those animals as they were put to sleep and that as far as i know is the recognised humane way to kill an animal,I'm not saying thay were right ,all i'm saying is how can it be animal abuse when they were humanely pts.
The R.S.P.C.A. over here put puppies to sleep regularly in the back of their vans,it was even broadcast on the B.B.C.
anyway thats my tuppence worth