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post #1 of 24
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Did anyone else catch this? At least the woman is expected to make it-but I wonder if the bears owner will get in any trouble? I mean he did raise bears and all, and they werent afraid of people,so I wonder why this one attacked?

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/05/23/bea....ap/index.html
post #2 of 24
I think he should have something happen to him. I'm sure he did not intentionally let the bear escape, but if you are going to have wild animals, you have to accept the responsibility if something goes wrong. I wonder why someone would raise bears in close proximity to other people.
post #3 of 24
Yes we ll have to take responsibility for our pets and the bear is his....
post #4 of 24
Well, it sure didn't take long for this bad news to hit TCS. From what I understand, the owner went in to feed the bear and that is when the bear escaped.This points out the fact that they did not do things right. The bear should have been in a lockout before entering the cage. Also, there needs to be a perimeter fence. Had either one of these steps been followed, this incident would NOT have happened. Now, this woman was injured, the bear is dead and there is a real possibility of all exotic animal owners in Ohio, suffering from this. This includes myself as well. It should be pointed out that this is a COMMERCIAL facility, a business, who breeds these animals for their urine and skin!! They are not a private owner like myself. Accidents happen, that is a part of life, but this one could have been prevented had they been more responsible. Once again, ALL exotic owners are going to be made to look bad by the media smear on this
post #5 of 24
Bears are food-aggressive; in our area, bears feeding in dumpsters became very aggressive because they want the people-food all to themselves. This could have happened in the wild just the same as in the town. The owners should have realized that and taken more precautions to prevent this mishap. I, for one, vote that the owner be required to attend a Responsible-Exotic-Ownership class - led by Amber!! Amber's common sense approach is really the only solution, and it is a solution that works great! What is sad is that dogs kill & maim far more people than exotics ever have, yet the bias against exotics is so grave. For instance, a librarian in Nashville was killed by one of 4 dogs, yet I didn't hear a thing about it until I read a follow-up article (while visiting TN)about a forensics expert making bite-mark-castings on all the dogs to determine the actual killer - now, had that been a mountain lion who killed the librarian, the media would have broadcast globally....
post #6 of 24
John, I have to say that when I saw the story, I thought about so many things that you have talked about on here and my first reaction was "This person had no business with these animals. They obviously didn't know how to properly care for them." Of course, the news didn't mention that it was a commercial breeder for bear urine and skin, so all that killing the bear meant to the owner was lost profit. On the news they said the bear escaped while the owner cleaned the cage.
post #7 of 24
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Originally Posted by valanhb
John, I have to say that when I saw the story, I thought about so many things that you have talked about on here and my first reaction was "This person had no business with these animals. They obviously didn't know how to properly care for them." Of course, the news didn't mention that it was a commercial breeder for bear urine and skin, so all that killing the bear meant to the owner was lost profit. On the news they said the bear escaped while the owner cleaned the cage.

Wow-I didnt know he was a breeder for that, thats so sad
post #8 of 24
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Originally Posted by catsknowme
Bears are food-aggressive; in our area, bears feeding in dumpsters became very aggressive because they want the people-food all to themselves. This could have happened in the wild just the same as in the town. The owners should have realized that and taken more precautions to prevent this mishap. I, for one, vote that the owner be required to attend a Responsible-Exotic-Ownership class - led by Amber!! Amber's common sense approach is really the only solution, and it is a solution that works great! What is sad is that dogs kill & maim far more people than exotics ever have, yet the bias against exotics is so grave. For instance, a librarian in Nashville was killed by one of 4 dogs, yet I didn't hear a thing about it until I read a follow-up article (while visiting TN)about a forensics expert making bite-mark-castings on all the dogs to determine the actual killer - now, had that been a mountain lion who killed the librarian, the media would have broadcast globally....
This is so true and thank you for the kind words
I guess they have been in business for something like 28 years and never had problems, except for a fox getting out. From what I am hearing now, he does have a perimeter fence up, but had to remove a section to bring in some large cage panels. They didn't get the perimeter section back up. This one mistake got him. However, if they had other safety features, such as a double door entry and a lockout, this again, would not have happened, even with the perimeter section missing. The woman who got bit is going to be ok. I can't tell you how much this is bothering me at the moment. I was just outside spending time with Carmelo hoping and praying that no ban laws come from this. I doubt this guy really loves his animals, to him, it is just business. For me, my cats, both exotic and domestic, are a huge part of my life and I can not begin to describe the love and bond we share with them. Carmelo had a sad look on his face, as if he knew something was bothering me. Like I have said, our exotics form a very strong bond with us.
post #9 of 24
I bet he did know, John. They're far from dumb, and they know a lot more than most dumb ol' humans.
post #10 of 24
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Originally Posted by AmberThe Bobcat
This is so true and thank you for the kind words
I guess they have been in business for something like 28 years and never had problems, except for a fox getting out. From what I am hearing now, he does have a perimeter fence up, but had to remove a section to bring in some large cage panels. They didn't get the perimeter section back up. This one mistake got him. However, if they had other safety features, such as a double door entry and a lockout, this again, would not have happened, even with the perimeter section missing. The woman who got bit is going to be ok. I can't tell you how much this is bothering me at the moment. I was just outside spending time with Carmelo hoping and praying that no ban laws come from this. I doubt this guy really loves his animals, to him, it is just business. For me, my cats, both exotic and domestic, are a huge part of my life and I can not begin to describe the love and bond we share with them. Carmelo had a sad look on his face, as if he knew something was bothering me. Like I have said, our exotics form a very strong bond with us.
I take it they are now investigating it with safety people right... I know there is a name for it but I can not recall it because am so tired but to hungry to sleep....I know Ca has Osha for the construction...
post #11 of 24
I thought about you when I read the article, and wondered if it would affect you. It is a shame that responsible people may have to suffer along with people that make careless mistakes. I know everyone makes mistakes, there is little room for error in dealing with 500 lb bears. It only takes one to end someone's life, or make life difficult for people like you and you wonderful cats. I hope things go well for you.
post #12 of 24
Well, this is bad no matter how you look at it. Now, the stupid animal rights terrorist group known as API (Animal Protection Institute) is calling for a ban in Ohio. Doesn't mean anyone will listen to them, THEY SHOULDN'T, but they are running wild with this
post #13 of 24
If a ban did come into place, you wouldn't have to give up your existing animals would you??? Just curious about that.

I also think this is a sad unfortunate event but as most mistakes happen with animals, it was human error.
post #14 of 24
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Originally Posted by Loveysmummy
If a ban did come into place, you wouldn't have to give up your existing animals would you??? Just curious about that.

I also think this is a sad unfortunate event but as most mistakes happen with animals, it was human error.
It would all depend on how the law was written. Most of the time, but not always, they grandfather exisiting owners in, but you would not be able to get more. No matter how it goes, even if there was a ban and they told me I could not keep them, I would anyway. I had them before any law and no law is going to take them. This happened at a commercial facility. Most of the time, if there are ban laws, these same commercial facilities are exempt from the ban. Go figure. I am sure things will be ok, but it makes me nervous.
post #15 of 24
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Originally Posted by AmberThe Bobcat
It would all depend on how the law was written. Most of the time, but not always, they grandfather exisiting owners in, but you would not be able to get more. No matter how it goes, even if there was a ban and they told me I could not keep them, I would anyway. I had them before any law and no law is going to take them. This happened at a commercial facility. Most of the time, if there are ban laws, these same commercial facilities are exempt from the ban. Go figure. I am sure things will be ok, but it makes me nervous.
Aww-I dont blame you for keeping them! They were here before any laws. I saw an ad in a local paper on line that someone was trying to sell a bob cat kitten and I thought of you.
post #16 of 24
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Originally Posted by catloverin_ks
Aww-I dont blame you for keeping them! They were here before any laws. I saw an ad in a local paper on line that someone was trying to sell a bob cat kitten and I thought of you.
A bobcat kitten? Hmmmm...no no, I better not start thinkng about that kitten
post #17 of 24
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Originally Posted by AmberThe Bobcat
A bobcat kitten? Hmmmm...no no, I better not start thinkng about that kitten
Ahh, come on
post #18 of 24
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Originally Posted by catloverin_ks
Ahh, come on
You know. I am on vacation and my wife is out of state visiting her family. (I stayed home to watch and care for the big kids ) Every time she goes out to visit her family and I am on vacation, a new furry friend comes to live with us. I wonder if this is an omenHmmm, it is my birthday too. I can always by myself a birthday gift
post #19 of 24
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Originally Posted by AmberThe Bobcat
You know. I am on vacation and my wife is out of state visiting her family. (I stayed home to watch and care for the big kids ) Every time she goes out to visit her family and I am on vacation, a new furry friend comes to live with us. I wonder if this is an omenHmmm, it is my birthday too. I can always by myself a birthday gift
Thats a grand idea!
post #20 of 24
If I did this, I think my wife would want to hang me
post #21 of 24
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Originally Posted by AmberThe Bobcat
If I did this, I think my wife would want to hang me
Ahh.....ya know ya wanna Hehe....
post #22 of 24
Well, it would be fun having to do this again

And see this cute little face.

Or see a cute baby bobcat tummy

Baby Amber

Sorry to have gotten off topic just a bit
post #23 of 24
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Originally Posted by AmberThe Bobcat
Well, it would be fun having to do this again

And see this cute little face.

Or see a cute baby bobcat tummy

Baby Amber

Sorry to have gotten off topic just a bit
Thats ok I would love to be able to own one of those lovely creatures. They are trying to pass a law in Kansas now because of the death of a girl lasty year who got killed by a tiger, she was having a senior pic. taken. They now want to close down any private owned zoos and its just terrible.
post #24 of 24
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Oh and this is one of the local private zoos that is trying to remain open. I love this place!!

http://www.safaripark.org/

BTW-if ya need that # for that baby kitty, I can give it to you.
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