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And this guy keeps his job as a teacher???

post #1 of 21
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OMG!

http://9news.com/acm_news.aspx?OSGNA...7-c589c01ca7bf

You have to read the article to believe it. Not only did he give a drafting class a writing assignment about who they would MURDER and how they would do it - they say this isn't enough for him to lose his job. WHAT?!?! Something is seriously wrong with the system if this freak can keep his job working with young people!
post #2 of 21
Heidi I will have to agree with you! He shouldn't be teaching anymore. He obviously has some issues that need treatment. If I were a parent to any one of those students I would be raising cain with the school board about this!
post #3 of 21
About a week before Columbine happened, a kid in my middle school wrote up a list of people he would kill and made copies and gave them to us. I was on it, as was about half the grade. He got a detention. And that was it. Had his timing been different, I'm sure he would have been expelled.

What I wanna know about this assignment was if he meant, like, a famous person, or if he meant someone in the class. The whole thing just seems really strange. Maybe they should tell him that he has to stay on the subject he's meant to teach and not try to teach fiction! Perhaps then he could stay out of trouble.
post #4 of 21
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I could possibly understand an assignment of who you hate and why, with the point being that in most circumstances those reasons really aren't big enough to want to bring harm to that person. You know, the I hate Britney Spears or Jessica Simpson because they are bimbo-twits type of answer. Of course, the teacher would definitely run the risk of some serious stuff being in those writings - physical or sexual abuse, that kind of thing. I can't ever see that assignment in a drafting class, though.

The thing that disturbs me more than anything, though, is that he wanted them to say HOW they would kill another person. Is this guy a psychopath who would just get off on reading the different ways teens could come up with killing another person? That's not the kind of creative thinking you want to encourage!
post #5 of 21
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Originally Posted by valanhb
The thing that disturbs me more than anything, though, is that he wanted them to say HOW they would kill another person. Is this guy a psychopath who would just get off on reading the different ways teens could come up with killing another person? That's not the kind of creative thinking you want to encourage!
Or does he want to knock somebody off, and needs some original ideas?
The whole thing is extremely disturbing, and this guy shouldn't be teaching kids.
Wasn't it Missouri that wanted to stop the teaching of evolution? And now somebody who gives such an assignment is going to be allowed to continue to teach?
post #6 of 21
And he can still teach? What is up with that?? I would raise some heck if I were a parent!!
post #7 of 21
He should be fired, there's no excuse asking his students to write a paper like that.
post #8 of 21
Can't imagine what justification they could possibly have for not dumping him.
post #9 of 21
I want to know what was going through his head that an Industrial Design class would involve plotting a murder????
Creative Writing class, then yes I could see the relation...but still.

Either case that's just pushing a little too far. students here in Michigan are being tried for terrorism because they threaten another columbine. Making kids plan a murder? Ridiculous.
post #10 of 21
What an awful thing to ask of young impressionable minds. I can't beleive he won't be fired.
post #11 of 21
ummm.... yeah... a small lapse of judgement there... just a little....(sarcasm)
post #12 of 21
OMG I am a teacher and I would of been fired for it for sure.... He seems a little sick to me
post #13 of 21
I dunno, maybe he wanted the kids to use some creativity? Have you ever read The Lovely Bones? One teacher in it had her class (or was it camp?) do a project on the perfect murder weapon, and the winner was a kid who thought up the idea of an icicle ('cause it melts away). It encourages creative thought, though everyone else will worry that it'll encourage the kid to actually kill. Like people think violent videogames cause kids to kill.
post #14 of 21
I did read the Lovely Bones - what a creepy novel that was!
I see what you're saying, your reply reminded me of another story which is used in our school as a standard text. It's a short story called 'Lamb to the slaughter' about a woman who kills her husband with a frozen leg of lamb, then puts the meat in the oven, cooks it & eats it.

I don't know what I think about this teacher, he certainly sounds weird. I wonder what his nickname is among the students?
post #15 of 21
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Originally Posted by Aussie_Dog
I dunno, maybe he wanted the kids to use some creativity? Have you ever read The Lovely Bones? One teacher in it had her class (or was it camp?) do a project on the perfect murder weapon, and the winner was a kid who thought up the idea of an icicle ('cause it melts away). It encourages creative thought, though everyone else will worry that it'll encourage the kid to actually kill. Like people think violent videogames cause kids to kill.
I could see that in an advanced creative writing class, where the youngest students would be Juniors. Not in Drafting with 9th - 12th graders. I took Drafting and there really wasn't much room for creativity, and no place for creative writing, in the curriculum and subject matter.
post #16 of 21
I think some modern fiction is crap. We had to read a book in 10th grade full of short stories. Every single one of them had a death, usually a murder and some were graphic. One woman killed her husband and served him the next day (pretty famous..). Other stories were of people going crazy and I felt like I was going crazy reading it (The Yellow Wallpaper). I hate reading all of that crap because it feels like it degrades the mind.

Is what this teacher did worse? Probably...but I think teaching and what is considered good literature is going down teh drain. I think this asignment was out of line.
post #17 of 21
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Originally Posted by millyanddaisy
I see what you're saying, your reply reminded me of another story which is used in our school as a standard text. It's a short story called 'Lamb to the slaughter' about a woman who kills her husband with a frozen leg of lamb, then puts the meat in the oven, cooks it & eats it.
Wasn't this made into a Twilight Zone episode or Alfred Hitchcock Presents? Except she offers the lamb as dinner to the police who are investigating her husbands death?
post #18 of 21
And the school authorities say that this was "very out of character"...hmmm. isn't a bell ringing or a red flag waving anywhere out there???? Seems like the school psychologists would be up in arms about this one!! And the state Department of Education, too!
post #19 of 21
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Originally Posted by ErinandSeamus
Wasn't this made into a Twilight Zone episode or Alfred Hitchcock Presents? Except she offers the lamb as dinner to the police who are investigating her husbands death?
Ooh maybe that was the story I was thinking of....or some takeoff of it. Its all so repulsive and has no place in a school IMO.
post #20 of 21
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Originally Posted by millyanddaisy
It's a short story called 'Lamb to the slaughter' about a woman who kills her husband with a frozen leg of lamb, then puts the meat in the oven, cooks it & eats it.
Wasn't that a story in Jeffery Archer's Twist in the Tale? He had a bunch of short stories and the readers had to guess which one was totally made up.
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