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What will the babies be?

post #1 of 24
Thread Starter 
Momma is a blue unfolded Scottish Fold.

Daddy is a brown tabby with white toes and white chest.

I'm just curious... thanks for answering, if you have time!
post #2 of 24
Babies will be moggies! Mixed DNA, you could get quite a little variety - can't wait to see pics when they're born!!!
post #3 of 24
Thread Starter 
Thanks. LOL I have a thread in the preggers cats forum, if you want to check out my story... I don't know yet if she'll have the kittens.
post #4 of 24
Dad is not a scottish fold? If not, you will get basically brown tabbies, black or blue kittens (with or without a little white). You could also get blue tabbies since dad carrys the tabby gene.
post #5 of 24
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Originally Posted by GoldenKitty45
Dad is not a scottish fold? If not, you will get basically brown tabbies, black or blue kittens (with or without a little white). You could also get blue tabbies since dad carrys the tabby gene.
Hi. I've been wondering about this for a while. I have that free phenotype predictor, but it didn't help with this question. What IS tabby? Basically I mean, is it dominant, recessive, and to what. I understand the coloring thing pretty well, but not the marking thing. My black cat mated, probably, with a brown tabby, and there was 1 solid black, 1 gray tabby, and 3 brown tabbies. (one was almost a tortie tabby.) So anyway, where does the tabby vs. solid come in? Thanks! (PS momma is spayed now)
post #6 of 24
Tabby is pretty much a dominate trait - even "blacks" will have ghost tabby markings if one parent is a tabby
post #7 of 24
Thread Starter 
I'd love a blue tabby... they are so pretty.

I guess it would too much to ask for a black smoke, though... I doubt that's possible in this mating.
post #8 of 24
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Originally Posted by Godiva
I'd love a blue tabby... they are so pretty.

I guess it would too much to ask for a black smoke, though... I doubt that's possible in this mating.
Godiva...I thought you were concerned about the size of your girl with carrying a litter to term...have you seen a vet yet to discuss the matter?

Katie
post #9 of 24
Thread Starter 
They deleted my thread, or I would tell you to go there and read updates. I don't know why they deleted my thread. Oh well.

I do have an appointment next week.

If Sneakers is given the go ahead, due to my personal issues I have to consider, I will let her have the kittens. If there is a health risk, I will not. :shrug:
post #10 of 24
Smoke is like the tabby gene - one parent has to exhibit the color in order to pass it on. If neither is a smoke, you won't have one.
post #11 of 24
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Originally Posted by Godiva
They deleted my thread, or I would tell you to go there and read updates. I don't know why they deleted my thread. Oh well.

I do have an appointment next week.

If Sneakers is given the go ahead, due to my personal issues I have to consider, I will let her have the kittens. If there is a health risk, I will not. :shrug:
Godiva....please keep us notified as to what your vet recommends. Also, even if she is given the go ahead...I would recommend that this is her only litter.

Katie
post #12 of 24
Thread Starter 
Of course. Unless she sneaked outside (her name is Sneakers!!), she wouldn't get preggers anyway.

The male was fixed (on the planned date) merely days after I think they had a successful mating.
post #13 of 24
Just neutered males can get a female pregnant for about 30 days after they've been neutered.
post #14 of 24
Thread Starter 
I realize that... but I think she got pregnant before then because we got Ziggy fixed on April 27th, and well... I don't think she'd be showing this much if it were later than that.... Ziggy is only 6-7 months right now. We thought he didn't get mature until 8 ot 9 months...

I feel awful... hopefully everything will work out just fine.
post #15 of 24
Friend of mine had a 5 month old siamese male that was a daddy at 7 months!
post #16 of 24
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Hey guys... Now that I know I am probably going to let her have the babies, I was wondering if someone could do an analysis for me or point me to an online tool.

I have more information this time. I checked back with my breeder (for mom) and got the colors for her parents... so here we go:

Mom of Sneakers: bi-color calico folded
Dad of Sneakers: tabby bi-color or silver tabby (she forgets)
Littermates of Sneakers: silver tabby folded ears, bicolor tabby folded ears, calico bicolor, and blue (Sneakers!)

Mom of Ziggy: white odd-eyed
Dad of Ziggy: Savannah tabby (half or more, probably a lot more, Bengal and half or less, probably a lot less, African Serval)
Ziggy's littermates: tabbies exactly like him (with socks and locket) or all tabby

Does that help anyone? I am really hoping for a few greys/blues or silver tabbies....
post #17 of 24
Wow you have a LOT of mixes in there and nothing consistent. Why do you want to breed this cat with that much mixing in the background?

Scottish folds are only supposed to be bred to either British SH, American SH, or another (opposite eared) Scottish fold - not all those other cats. With that kind of background all you have is a mixed up non-pedigree cat.

IMO you should spay her; not contribute to the cat population. There is no legit breeding program in that cat.
post #18 of 24
Thread Starter 
Please see my thread over in the Pregnant Cats and Kittens forum.

I didn't intend to breed her.... long story, but she's pregnant now, and I was just curious what her babies might look like, and I know that breeders have a decent amount of knowledge in cat genetics.

Anyway, please see my other thread.. maybe that will answer some of your questions. Long story short, I considered spaying her, but she is too far along for me now to do that, plus several other reasons I mention in the thread. Please read it before you reply.

http://www.thecatsite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=86589
post #19 of 24
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by GoldenKitty45
Wow you have a LOT of mixes in there and nothing consistent. Why do you want to breed this cat with that much mixing in the background?

Scottish folds are only supposed to be bred to either British SH, American SH, or another (opposite eared) Scottish fold - not all those other cats. With that kind of background all you have is a mixed up non-pedigree cat.

IMO you should spay her; not contribute to the cat population. There is no legit breeding program in that cat.
Oh, I know there's a lot of mixing. Sneakers is registered, however, as a Scottish Fold. She IS a Scottish Fold. I guess I didn't make that clear; that her parents, and their parents, and their parents, back at least four generations (that's how far my pedigree goes), were all Scottish Folds.

On our second wedding anniversary, my husband bought home Ziggy. He was a "free to good home" kitten. We got a call a couple months after we brought him home and they said they found out what the daddy was. They knew that the tabby cat that showed up was the father, but they didn't think to scan for a microchip. They finally did, and he was a stud for a Savannah breeding program nearby. Apparently, he had gotten loose.
post #20 of 24
Oh ok, I understand now - its an accidental breeding. Are you planning on breeding her again but to a legit cat? Or is this a one time only thing

You have a lot of colors in the background and it would be hard to predict just what you'd have. Let us know what she has and we'll try to sort out the colors for you
post #21 of 24
Thread Starter 
Ah, okay. I will be sure you let you know what colors she has... I hope they all survive. The internist at my vet's said that she has experience in kittening small cats, and she'd be happy to take over for me when she's due.. we'll see how many are in there before I decide. Of course, she wants a small fee for this... (ha, small....) but it might be the smart thing to do. I didn't mention that in my other thread.

We DO NOT plan to breed her... we just moved so many times, we were afraid to get her spayed because we wanted her to have a secure place to recover, and then Ziggy got dropped into my lap (men... short-sighted, but you gotta love'em...).

It would be cool to someday have folded babies, but I don't plan on it. I'm not a breeder, and I don't ever plan to be one, unless I am retired and I take it up as a hobby, that won't wouldn't be for a few decades. I'm only 25. After she's done nursing, she will get spayed. She's so tiny that I don't think long term breeding would be appropriate, even if she does alright with this litter.


I just REALLY want some blue tabbies... so cross your fingers for me!!!
post #22 of 24
I will and maybe one day you can have both - a Blue Tabby Scottish Fold. I'd contact a few SF breeders and see what they have or can steer you towards a SF breeder that might have the blue tabbies.

Blues are not that popular in most breeds, but they occur - so you might want to start searching now
post #23 of 24
Thread Starter 
Awl, why not? I think they are gorgeous. ALL kitties are gorgeous...

That's an idea... but I won't be getting any more cats for several years! I hate to put it this way, but unless someone out there really needs my help and I cross their way (like a kitten in the road), I don't plan on any more cats until the ones I have have passed (not all of them, of course... I just don't want more than four or five kitties).
post #24 of 24
Solid blue or blue tabbies just are not "flashy" cats. Now if they have some white or cream on them, it makes them stand out a little more.

The only exception is a good typey British Blue or a Russian Blue, or Korat - the natural "one" color cats (RB and Korats, anyway). But even the RB's/Korats are not just solid blues - they both have silver tipping in the coats.

My first cat was a blue tabby and white - he had the white chest and paws and did ok in the shows - not real flashy, but handsome cat. I've had others that did a lot better in shows.
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