What will the babies be?

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Momma is a blue unfolded Scottish Fold.

Daddy is a brown tabby with white toes and white chest.

I'm just curious... thanks for answering, if you have time!
 

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Babies will be moggies! Mixed DNA, you could get quite a little variety - can't wait to see pics when they're born!!!
 
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Thanks. LOL I have a thread in the preggers cats forum, if you want to check out my story... I don't know yet if she'll have the kittens.
 

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Dad is not a scottish fold? If not, you will get basically brown tabbies, black or blue kittens (with or without a little white). You could also get blue tabbies since dad carrys the tabby gene.
 

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Originally Posted by GoldenKitty45

Dad is not a scottish fold? If not, you will get basically brown tabbies, black or blue kittens (with or without a little white). You could also get blue tabbies since dad carrys the tabby gene.
Hi. I've been wondering about this for a while. I have that free phenotype predictor, but it didn't help with this question. What IS tabby? Basically I mean, is it dominant, recessive, and to what. I understand the coloring thing pretty well, but not the marking thing. My black cat mated, probably, with a brown tabby, and there was 1 solid black, 1 gray tabby, and 3 brown tabbies. (one was almost a tortie tabby.) So anyway, where does the tabby vs. solid come in? Thanks! (PS momma is spayed now)
 

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Tabby is pretty much a dominate trait - even "blacks" will have ghost tabby markings if one parent is a tabby
 
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I'd love a blue tabby... they are so pretty.

I guess it would too much to ask for a black smoke, though... I doubt that's possible in this mating.
 

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Originally Posted by Godiva

I'd love a blue tabby... they are so pretty.

I guess it would too much to ask for a black smoke, though... I doubt that's possible in this mating.
Godiva...I thought you were concerned about the size of your girl with carrying a litter to term...have you seen a vet yet to discuss the matter?

Katie
 
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They deleted my thread, or I would tell you to go there and read updates.
I don't know why they deleted my thread. Oh well.

I do have an appointment next week.

If Sneakers is given the go ahead, due to my personal issues I have to consider, I will let her have the kittens. If there is a health risk, I will not. :shrug:
 

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Smoke is like the tabby gene - one parent has to exhibit the color in order to pass it on. If neither is a smoke, you won't have one.
 

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Originally Posted by Godiva

They deleted my thread, or I would tell you to go there and read updates.
I don't know why they deleted my thread. Oh well.

I do have an appointment next week.

If Sneakers is given the go ahead, due to my personal issues I have to consider, I will let her have the kittens. If there is a health risk, I will not. :shrug:
Godiva....please keep us notified as to what your vet recommends. Also, even if she is given the go ahead...I would recommend that this is her only litter.

Katie
 
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Of course. Unless she sneaked outside (her name is Sneakers!!), she wouldn't get preggers anyway.

The male was fixed (on the planned date) merely days after I think they had a successful mating.
 
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I realize that... but I think she got pregnant before then because we got Ziggy fixed on April 27th, and well... I don't think she'd be showing this much if it were later than that.... Ziggy is only 6-7 months right now. We thought he didn't get mature until 8 ot 9 months...

I feel awful... hopefully everything will work out just fine.
 
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Hey guys... Now that I know I am probably going to let her have the babies, I was wondering if someone could do an analysis for me or point me to an online tool.

I have more information this time. I checked back with my breeder (for mom) and got the colors for her parents... so here we go:

Mom of Sneakers: bi-color calico folded
Dad of Sneakers: tabby bi-color or silver tabby (she forgets)
Littermates of Sneakers: silver tabby folded ears, bicolor tabby folded ears, calico bicolor, and blue (Sneakers!)

Mom of Ziggy: white odd-eyed
Dad of Ziggy: Savannah tabby (half or more, probably a lot more, Bengal and half or less, probably a lot less, African Serval)
Ziggy's littermates: tabbies exactly like him (with socks and locket) or all tabby

Does that help anyone? I am really hoping for a few greys/blues or silver tabbies....
 

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Wow you have a LOT of mixes in there and nothing consistent. Why do you want to breed this cat with that much mixing in the background?

Scottish folds are only supposed to be bred to either British SH, American SH, or another (opposite eared) Scottish fold - not all those other cats. With that kind of background all you have is a mixed up non-pedigree cat.

IMO you should spay her; not contribute to the cat population. There is no legit breeding program in that cat.
 
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Please see my thread over in the Pregnant Cats and Kittens forum.

I didn't intend to breed her.... long story, but she's pregnant now, and I was just curious what her babies might look like, and I know that breeders have a decent amount of knowledge in cat genetics.

Anyway, please see my other thread.. maybe that will answer some of your questions. Long story short, I considered spaying her, but she is too far along for me now to do that, plus several other reasons I mention in the thread. Please read it before you reply.


http://www.thecatsite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=86589
 
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Originally Posted by GoldenKitty45

Wow you have a LOT of mixes in there and nothing consistent. Why do you want to breed this cat with that much mixing in the background?

Scottish folds are only supposed to be bred to either British SH, American SH, or another (opposite eared) Scottish fold - not all those other cats. With that kind of background all you have is a mixed up non-pedigree cat.

IMO you should spay her; not contribute to the cat population. There is no legit breeding program in that cat.
Oh, I know there's a lot of mixing. Sneakers is registered, however, as a Scottish Fold. She IS a Scottish Fold. I guess I didn't make that clear; that her parents, and their parents, and their parents, back at least four generations (that's how far my pedigree goes), were all Scottish Folds.


On our second wedding anniversary, my husband bought home Ziggy. He was a "free to good home" kitten. We got a call a couple months after we brought him home and they said they found out what the daddy was. They knew that the tabby cat that showed up was the father, but they didn't think to scan for a microchip. They finally did, and he was a stud for a Savannah breeding program nearby. Apparently, he had gotten loose.
 

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Oh ok, I understand now - its an accidental breeding. Are you planning on breeding her again but to a legit cat? Or is this a one time only thing


You have a lot of colors in the background and it would be hard to predict just what you'd have. Let us know what she has and we'll try to sort out the colors for you
 
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