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Marines tell it like it is!

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Said like ONLY a Marine could say it ! Speech by former ACC Commander Gen Hawley

Since the attack, I have seen, heard, and read thoughts of such surpassing stupidity that they must be addressed. You've heard them too. Here they are:

1) "We're not good, they're not evil, everything is relative."

Listen carefully: We're good, they're evil, nothing is relative. Say it with me now and free yourselves. You see, folks, saying "We're good" doesn't mean, "We're perfect." Okay? The only perfect being is the bearded guy on the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel.

The plain fact is that our country has, with all our mistakes and blunders, always been and always will be, the greatest beacon of freedom, charity, opportunity, and affection in history. If you need proof, open all the borders on Earth and see what happens. In about half a day, the entire world would be a ghost town, and the United States would look like one giant line to see "The Producers."

2) "Violence only leads to more violence."

This one is so stupid you usually have to be the president of an Ivy League university to say it. Here's the truth, which you know in your heads and hearts already: Ineffective, unfocused violence leads to more violence. Limp, panicky, half-measures lead to more violence. However, complete, fully-thought-through, professional, well-executed violence never leads to more violence because, you see, afterwards, the other guys are all dead. That's right, dead. Not "on trial," not "reeducated," not "nurtured back into the bosom of love." Dead. D-E-Well, you get the idea.

3) "The CIA and the rest of our intelligence community has failed us."

For 25 years we have chained our spies like dogs to a stake in the ground, and now that the house has been robbed, we yell at them for not protecting us. Starting in the late seventies, under Carter appointee Stansfield Turner, the giant brains who get these giant ideas decided that the best way to gather international intelligence was to use spy satellites. "After all," they reasoned, "you can see a license plate from 200 miles away."

This is very helpful if you've been attacked by a license plate. Unfortunately, we were attacked by humans. Finding humans is not possible with satellites. You have to use other humans.

When we bought all our satellites, we fired all our humans, and here's the really stupid part. It takes years, decades to infiltrate new humans into the worst places of the world. You can't just have a guy who looks like Gary Busey in a Spring Break '93 sweatshirt plop himself down in a coffee shop in Kabul and say "Hi ya, boys. Gee, I sure would like to meet that bin Laden fella." Well, you can, but all you'd be doing is giving the bad guys a story they'll be telling for years.

4) "These people are poor and helpless, and that's why they're angry at us."

Uh-huh, and Jeffrey Dahmer's frozen head collection was just a desperate cry for help. The terrorists and their backers are richer than Elton John and, ironically, a good deal less annoying. The poor helpless people, you see, are the villagers they tortured and murdered to stay in power. Mohamed Atta, one of the evil scumbags who steered those planes into the killing grounds (I'm sorry, one of the "alleged hijackers," according to CNN. They stopped using the word "terrorist," you know), is the son of a Cairo surgeon. But you knew this, too.

In the sixties and seventies, all the pinheads marching against the war were upper-middle-class college kids who grabbed any cause they could think of to get out of their final papers and spend more time drinking. At least, that was my excuse. It's the same today. Take the Anti-Global-Warm-ing (or is it World Trade? Oh-who-knows-what-the-hell-they-want demonstrators). They all charged their black outfits and plane tickets on dad's credit card(!) before driving to the airport in their SUV's.

5) "Any profiling is racial profiling."

Who's killing us here, the Norwegians? Just days after the attack, the New York Times had an article saying dozens of extended members of the gazillionaire bin Laden family living in America were afraid of reprisals and left in a huff, never to return to studying at Harvard and using too much Drakkar. I'm crushed. I think we're all crushed. Please come back. With a cherry on top?

Why don't they just change their names, anyway? It's happened in the past. Think about it. How many Adolfs do you run into these days?

Shortly after that, I remember watching TV with my jaw on the floor as a government official actually said, "That little old grandmother from Sioux city could be carrying something." Okay, how about this: No, she couldn't. It could never be the grandmother from Sioux City. Is it even possible? What are the odds? Winning a hundred Powerball lotteries in a row? A thousand? A million?

And now a Secret Service guy has been tossed off a plane and we're all supposed to cry about it because he's an Arab? Didn't it have the tiniest bit to do with the fact that he filled out his forms incorrectly three times? And then left an Arab history book on his seat as he strolled off the plane? And came back? Armed? Let's please all stop singing "We Are the World" for a minute and think practically.

I don't want to be sitting on the floor in the back of a plane four seconds away from hitting Mt. Rushmore and turn, grinning, to the guy next to me to say, "Well, at least we didn't offend them."

SO HERE'S what I resolve for the New Year:

Never to forget our murdered brothers and sisters.

Never to let the relativists get away with their immoral thinking.

After all, no matter what your daughter's political science professor says,we didn't start this.

Have you seen that bumper sticker that says, "No More Hiroshimas"? I wish I had one that says, "You First. No More Pearl Harbors."

Semper Fi!
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Semper fi! I am the proud daughter, of a twenty-six-year Marine, veteran of WWII, Korea AND Vietnam. I printed out a copy of this, for him. Thanks for posting it, especially, since this is Armed Forces Day.
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There's some truth to what he says. The problem is that those who are on the side of Bin Laden think they are right, that they are fighting evil. It's very hard to kill ideas. I don't know how we are going to accomplish it. It's a lot easier to fight a country than an idea. They are dedicated; they believe in what they're doing. Are we still morally strong and dedicated Americans? Read the Grandpa thread that Heidi just posted. That man is the son of the Greatest Generation, the young men who fought in WWll. He was raised with what are now considered old-fashioned values. You know, silly things, like church, family, responsibilities--- It takes courage to be a Boy Scout today because the young person has to put up with ridicule. We need to be strong again. The Roman Empire died from within. I pray that doesn't happen to us.
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I was really wondering how everyone would react to this. I thought he made some really good points, especially considering how some of this is reported in the press. When 9/11 happened there wasn't much dissenting that something needed to happen, but now it has gotten more political, i.e. the whole what did the president know when thing of last week.

Jeanie, I completely agree with you. That is the difference between this "war" and the others in the past. We are fighting ideas, not just for land.

Cindy - I, too, am the proud daughter of a Marine. He didn't serve as long as your father, but he is a Marine through and through! Semper Fi! Ura!
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Heidi, we had our times of colonization, but we can't criticize the Allies for fighting WWll. Millions were dying because of a mad man's ideas. Naziism was most certainly an idea, but we knew where Germany was and specifically who the leaders were. Now we don't know where these people are. Bin Ladin is not necessary to their cause. Anyone who could afford flying lessons could have done what was done--without Bin Laden's money. That's what worries me. Terrorism is very difficult to deal with.
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Perhaps I mis-worded my previous post, I am certainly not criticizing the Allies for anything done in WWII. Part of Hitler's agenda, as you obviously know, was to make the whole of Europe a German state. That's what I meant by fighting for land. Once we (The Allies) pushed the Germans back from France and Holland, as well as the Russians pushing back from their side, one "truth" of Hitler's master plan was questioned, as well as the obvious military and financial strain it put on Germany's resources. Once one piece of the plan failed, though, the rest of the ideas that Naziism rested on also floundered.

Although Hitler viewed himself as a god, Naziism was not a religion, per se. That's what makes the situation of fighting terrorists much more difficult. They see what they are doing as "God's work." To convince them they are wrong is to make them disavow their God. This is not a "war" that can be won quickly, but rather by changing the way that the children are raised and taught. There is nothing inherently wrong with Islaam as a religion, just how it is being interpreted by the radicals. The Christians did the same thing during the Crusades and Inquisition. Many evils have been committed in the name of religion.
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So true!! Sadly, I don't think it will be over soon.
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