question on household division in show

I have shown 2 of my purebreeds, and 1 household cat years ago in CFA show. My question is I have a little purebred abyssinian, I have his papers but I haven't registered him yet. Frankie is not show quality, he would get disqualified. He is such a cute little thing. He is such a ham, and I think he would love the cat shows. Can I enter him in the household division if I never sent in his papers?

Yes you can, however, in CFA the judges tend NOT to put up the purebred hhp very often. If you want to show your aby in HHP, you'll do a lot better in ACFA or TICA's shows

Thank you, I will look into that. Frankie has such an outgoing personality when he goes to visiting, he loves the vet!! I think he would really love a cat show!!!! I just want to show him in hhp for a fun event.. He would be disqualified if I registered him, and tried to show him with all the elegant abys.

If you've noticed at the CFA shows, the HHP's are a very small group (under 20 cats usually) and almost all are mixed breeds. In the other associations you will find a lot more competition and the judges don't mind if they are purebred (pet quality).

I would register him with TICA. http://www.tica.org/hhpform.pdf Oh and what disqualifies him (just curious)

Just curious: I thought it might be fun to show Puppy in TICA HHP. We found out he likes being around lots of people (we had a party and he joined the guests).

Would he even have a chance though? He's polydactyl, and his previous owners declawed. I noticed that CFA disqualifies declaws, but TICA allows them. Plus his head is kind of stragely shaped for his body type. But he's got really soft fur, has the muscle response of a ragdoll, and he loves to play.

Originally Posted by bab-ush-niik

Just curious: I thought it might be fun to show Puppy in TICA HHP. We found out he likes being around lots of people (we had a party and he joined the guests).

Would he even have a chance though? He's polydactyl, and his previous owners declawed. I noticed that CFA disqualifies declaws, but TICA allows them. Plus his head is kind of stragely shaped for his body type. But he's got really soft fur, has the muscle response of a ragdoll, and he loves to play.

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I think you should go ahead and show him. The TICA judges seem to have a lot of fun judging the HHP class cats. There's no breed standard pressure for them, so they can just have fun and enjoy the cats, and if your cat is a natural ham on stage....more the better. The judges like gregarious fun cats with interesting traits.
I say go for it.

Originally Posted by bab-ush-niik

Just curious: I thought it might be fun to show Puppy in TICA HHP. We found out he likes being around lots of people (we had a party and he joined the guests).

Would he even have a chance though? He's polydactyl, and his previous owners declawed. I noticed that CFA disqualifies declaws, but TICA allows them. Plus his head is kind of stragely shaped for his body type. But he's got really soft fur, has the muscle response of a ragdoll, and he loves to play.

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here is what they look for in a household pet: http://www.tica.org/binary/pdf/publi...rds/hhpstd.pdf

Since there is no "breed" standard, those HHP's that have something a little different seem to do quite well. As long as they are well groomed and in good condition - not too fat or too skinny and have a good personality you'll have fun.

HHP's are pretty competitive tho - and many judges remark on the care of HHP that is better then some of the purebreds that are shown.

Originally Posted by princeegrl

I would register him with TICA. http://www.tica.org/hhpform.pdf Oh and what disqualifies him (just curious)

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Frankie is a ruddy abyssininan. He is cobby, chubby, his ears are not large, I am not sure about the white he has on his neck, and he has one single tiny stripe on his front leg, if your not looking for it you can't see it. He looks like a tiny minature cougar, He has a personality that is outstanding. He will put his paws on the judges shoulders and give them kitty kisses. He is a love.

Frankies papers are for CFA, I don't know if TICA would take a CfA papered cat. I don't know anything about that..

Here is Frankies kitty picture.. I haven't developed my film yet for recent photos.. I don't have a digital camera yet..

Aww cute kitten - his head is a little short for the breed but still makes him cute.

Just cause he has papers, doesn't mean you have to register him. TICA doesn't need to know he has papers - just register him as he is - I don't think they need to know parents of any HHP. Same with ACFA - you just register him with name, date of birth, sex, and color. He'd be registered (of course) as a shorthair

Originally Posted by abbycats

Frankie is a ruddy abyssininan. He is cobby, chubby, his ears are not large, I am not sure about the white he has on his neck, and he has one single tiny stripe on his front leg, if your not looking for it you can't see it. He looks like a tiny minature cougar, He has a personality that is outstanding. He will put his paws on the judges shoulders and give them kitty kisses. He is a love.

Frankies papers are for CFA, I don't know if TICA would take a CfA papered cat. I don't know anything about that..

Here is Frankies kitty picture.. I haven't developed my film yet for recent photos.. I don't have a digital camera yet..

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I think to register him in a different registery you just need a certified pedigree and/or the papers from another registery and the registration fees. I think it is some thing like that, I was going to register my TICA reg ragdolls with CFF and that was what I needed. (I think)
If you show them HHP if they are pure breds, don't the regtrastion papers have to be turned over or some thing like that? or unregistered? But they can't be registered, does that sound right? I can't remember. So if that's the case and you do want to show as hhp, then you would have to consider that, but it sounds like you already don't care about registering him any ways, so it shouldn't matter, but if you do decide, you can register him with TICA too, probley.

I think in ACFA (and probably TiCA) if the cat is already registered then you would have to surrender the registration. However, it seems the aby only has papers but not an official registration (am I correct?). So since he's never been officially registered, then all she has to do for HHP is put down his color, sex, DOB, and owner.

When you register a household pet in TICA they don't need to know the parents as you can see in this application: http://www.tica.org/hhpform.pdf