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post #1 of 29
Thread Starter 
I've been going to the same vet for almost six years and have been impressed with her skills and compassion, but I heard about something she did from one of the vet techs I know and it's really bothering me. Apparently a cat nipped at, not bit, its owner one time and she brought it in and requested my vet extract all the cats teeth. My vet did it, even though her staff tried to talk her out of it. She claimed she had to do what the owner requested. To me, this was just unnecessary and cruel. At least the owner didn't request the cat be PTS. I've had always had a lot of respect for my vet and appreciate the excellent care she's given my cats, but this really changes how I feel about her. It's got me thinking about finding a new vet. The tech who told me about it is looking for a new job. What do you guys think?
post #2 of 29
Honestly, I'd ask the vet herself.

Nothing worse than losing reputation and rapport over hearsay.
It's quite possible that her techs are upset with her over something completely unrelated.

Maybe the extraction took place, maybe there were other factors involved, such as bad teeth.
Maybe none of it ever happened.
post #3 of 29
I would ask the vet personally if the story is true or not. If it is..I would be changing vets and letting her know why. Just because a customer asks you to do something doesn't mean you have to if it goes against your own beliefs.
post #4 of 29
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Arlyn
Honestly, I'd ask the vet herself.

Nothing worse than losing reputation and rapport over hearsay.
It's quite possible that her techs are upset with her over something completely unrelated.

Maybe the extraction took place, maybe there were other factors involved, such as bad teeth.
Maybe none of it ever happened.
Excellent point. Thanks! I need to have all the facts before making any decisions. If it's true, I'll be looking for a new vet.
post #5 of 29
Eileen, thats really too bad about your vet. Especially if you've been going to her for so long. If its true, I personally don't think that she should have done that - even if it was what the owner wanted, I couldn't go against my personal beliefs, knowing it was so wrong!


I hope that you can get the facts straight from her, and you can continue going to her. If not - good luck finding a new vet!

post #6 of 29
Get the facts straight, it sounded like the vet tech is trying to turn customers away as a revenge
post #7 of 29
A lot of people like to retaliate (sp) maybe the tec hates the vet enough to lie about it. I would personally ask the Vet. Maybe keep it under-wraps who told you.
post #8 of 29
OMG i hope this isn't another procedure like declawing But yes have a word with them Eileen just to make sure.
post #9 of 29
I agree hear what happened from the source not a 3rd party!!
post #10 of 29
That's a disturbing story, to be sure. Definitely check it out with the vet herself. You may not have been given the whole story, and she is entitled to speak in her own defence. You'll know from her response whether you want to continue dealing with her, and whatever you decide it will be based on more than hearsay.
post #11 of 29
Thread Starter 
I feel bad now that I'm doubting my vet and that I just automatically believed the tech. I was just so shocked by what she said and reacting to the situation. Definitely need to clarify things directly with my vet. Just have to figure out how to bring it up without letting on how I heard about it. Maybe pose it as a "what if" kind of thing?
post #12 of 29
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Originally Posted by eilcon
I feel bad now that I'm doubting my vet and that I just automatically believed the tech. I was just so shocked by what she said and reacting to the situation. Definitely need to clarify things directly with my vet. Just have to figure out how to bring it up without letting on how I heard about it. Maybe pose it as a "what if" kind of thing?
I would just tell her that you heard from "someone" about what happened and you just wanted to get the true facts straight beacuse you were concerned. She should understand, and hopefully tell you the full truth!

I really hope you don't have to find a new vet, Eileen!
post #13 of 29
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by babyharley
I would just tell her that you heard from "someone" about what happened and you just wanted to get the true facts straight beacuse you were concerned. She should understand, and hopefully tell you the full truth!

I really hope you don't have to find a new vet, Eileen!
Yeah, you're right. Better to be direct about it. This is just a really awkward situation!
post #14 of 29
Quote:
Originally Posted by eilcon
Yeah, you're right. Better to be direct about it. This is just a really awkward situation!
Thats so true, and thats no good that you have to deal with something like this. Especially when you really do have a great vet that you've been going to for six years!

I really hope that its not true!
post #15 of 29
maybe you should ,ake her go to confession to get the truth out?


its also a way
post #16 of 29
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by fwan
maybe you should ,ake her go to confession to get the truth out?


its also a way
Or I could sprinkle her with the "all powerful" holy water and it would force her to tell the truth!

Okay, now I'm just getting silly.
post #17 of 29
Don't beat around and say I heard something that really bothers me and I would like to get it sorted out.
post #18 of 29
Quote:
Originally Posted by eilcon
Or I could sprinkle her with the "all powerful" holy water and it would force her to tell the truth!

Okay, now I'm just getting silly.
What about that gold rope that Wonderwoman uses? LOL

Actually, I agree with those who said you don't know the whole story. I could speculate on a lot of things. What if the owner had a baby and it was that or get rid of the cat?

What if the people wanted the cat PTS and the vet talked them out of it by suggesting this as an alternative to keep it alive and in a home?

Maybe the tech didn't hear the whole story and the cat had a gum disease of some kind.

There are lots of reasons, good or bad, why the vet could have done that, if he or she in fact did.

Also, if the tech was so concerned, why are they still there?

However, I have also heard that a vet is, at least in some states, required to do what an owner asks, if they cannot be talked out of it. I was told that by the woman I work with from my local rescue group when I told her I wished I had been able to go to veterinary school when I was younger, and she was pointing out some of the negative sides of being a vet, so there would have been no reason for her to make that up.

On the other hand, if that vet told you the story, I wouldn't trust the vet even more, because shouldn't those kinds of things be confidential. I would be more suspect of the tech who was breaking confidentiality and had no business telling you anything about the vet or another client. If he or she had concerns about the vet, the proper, responsible thing to do would have been to contact the local animal control agency or veterinary board.

If you've been using that vet for a long time, and trust her, you could ask her. I doubt she'd tell you, unless she explains it in a very general way, if she does at all. I would say if you trust her to be a good and humane vet, maybe you might consider trusting not only her, but your own original judgement.

The last thing you want is trouble with the vet. What if the tech loses his or her job because you've asked, and now you've got another problem to deal with.

I'd think about it a little more, or perhaps try to get more information before asking.

I've gotten in too much trouble in the past myself for saying too much too soon. LOL
post #19 of 29
keep us posted on this, i'm very interested to hear the outcome!
post #20 of 29
I think we all are....
post #21 of 29
Before getting upset I would just talk to the vet. What if the tech is bitter about something that happened. Just check it out and get the facts straight before acting.
post #22 of 29
Thread Starter 
Thanks, everybody, for your feedback and advice. Peter's due for a visit to the vet in the next couple of weeks anyway, so that will give me the opportunity to talk to her about this in person. What it all boils down to is that I DO trust my vet. She's taken great care of my cats. I'm not going to make any decisions until I have the chance to speak with her. Will keep you posted.
post #23 of 29
Oh MAN! That would be a tough one, if you really do like your Vet! I think you are wise though, to just ask outright, and then let her tell you the story. I had a similar situation, with my Vet and it was from someone who just plain does NOT like my Vet! However, that Vet saved my MissyKitty's life,more than once... I have a lot of respect for this Vet, and I did some searching around, and was getting ready to just outright ask my Vet, with my next visit. --Then I found out, it was just a personal vendetta against this particular Vet, from this angry person!
Good luck!
post #24 of 29
Quote:
Originally Posted by Charmed654321
What if the owner had a baby and it was that or get rid of the cat?

What if the people wanted the cat PTS and the vet talked them out of it by suggesting this as an alternative to keep it alive and in a home?
I'm sorry, but that's pretty terrible for an "alternate possibility" scenario. A vet going along with the aforementioned procedure for that reason would be horrible.

In a case where all of a cat's teeth being removed for a reason not due to health was even considered as an option, I honestly believe that it'd be better for the person to give it up or find it a new home.

Having all of the cat's teeth unnecessarily pulled out just to please the owner is right up there with declawing in my opinion.

The only way I could excuse that procedure is due to a medical issue (horrible dental disease, an accident which broke the teeth, etc.)
post #25 of 29
I've been thinking about this situation since you posted about it. OK, not constantly thinking about it, but it's been on my mind...

I cannot believe that ANY reputable vet would perform such a procedure on request from a pet owner. De-fanging I've heard of, but removing all of the cats teeth would mean that the cat could not eat properly. IF the procedure was actually done, I'm sure that there were extenuating circumstances (i.e. advanced gum disease) that made the teeth removal medically necessary.

Definitely ask your vet about this, but my guess is that she will be shocked and appalled at the suggestion. Frankly, if the tech gets fired for telling lies like that, she should be fired. You have the gumption to straight out ask your trusted vet about it. How many people would have just gone with your first instinct of finding a new vet?

It sure sounds to me like this person has a grudge against her boss, which is no way to behave in an office and especially not a medical office. If she's that unhappy, she should leave. If she has a valid complaint (if that story were to be true) she should report her boss to the proper authorities/board.
post #26 of 29
I would also like to add there there is no breach of client confidentiality involved as the pet owner in question was not named.
post #27 of 29
I agree with everyone elses comments. Approach the vet, sometimes people say things and 'stretch' the truth. Adding facts that aren't true to seek revenge for something totally unrelated.

Perhaps the tech didn't get that raise they wanted. I can't imagine that a vet would do something like that without an actual medical reason. It's inhumane. I'd think that instead of doing as the owner wished, he'd instead contact the humane society to let them handle the owner of the animal.

I hope you get it all straightened out.
post #28 of 29
Defanging isn't unheard of but it is very cruel. However, if the vet thought it would keep the cat in a home they might have opted to do the procedure vs. giving them up or PTS.

I wouldn't judge the vet on it. Its on the owners conscionce IMO. Vets have to make a lot of tough decisions and often get the brunt of criticisms. They may not make the right decisions all the time either but this was not something they recommend people do (as it was an owner request), that I would have a problem with.
post #29 of 29
Before you go getting all worked up, i would first ask the vet in person and tell her why the rumors concerned you. Ask her if she did preform the procedure, what were the circumstances surrounding it, and how frequently has she preformed such a procedure. I personally find it to be really cruel and unnecessary. Any good vet would recommend that the owner work on the cats behavior by spending time with it and positively enforcing good behavior instead of extracting its teeth!I would definitely take my animals somewhere else is she admits to having preformed the surgery...that says she's more in it for the money rather than for the wellbeing of the animal. but at least ask her kindly in person to find out the truth before you switch vets. you've gone to her for 6 years so give her the benefit of a doubt.
Have a lovely day.
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