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You have to be patient, give people time to respond... k?


No they do not, they are induced ovulators, I think I spelled that right...

They can also become pregnant by multiple tomcats at the same time and can even carry two seperate full litters but often the second litter will be born with the first prematurely.
 
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oh my goodness!! This is amazing news!! I have a purebreed siamese seal point and I've heard when mixed with a long-haired cat it is possible to make Ragdolls....it can't be this easy right?!!
 

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You cannot just make ragdoll out of two other breeds. You only should be breeding if your cats are registered with an organization, you show your cats, you are an absolute EXPERT on the breeds and how to go about it. No offense but by your questions I am pretty sure you are a beginner. Which is okay, but it takes years and years of study to become a responsible, ethical breeder. You need to spay your cats right away. The longer they keep going into heat, the greater chance is that they will get cancers when they are older. Spay them, don't breed them. Study up on it a few years and learn everything you can, start a cattery, then get the cats you wish to breed, purchased with breeding rights, and begin.
 
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Don't worry...I'm not going to go off and start a wild kitten farm. I'm a respobsible animal lover-I actually just adopted two stray pregnant cats that recently (two weeks ago) had their litters and I plan on getting them spayed once it's possible to take them from their babies.
 
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I had my sealpoint before i adopted them hense "threescompany"....and lots of poop. eww! haha.
 

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Ok, sorry, you made it sound like you were going to find any old long hair cat from who knows where and breed them expecting to get ragdolls. that is not going to happen. if you do want to get into breeding, you probably won't be able to breed the seal point you have now by the time you learn everything you need to know about breeding. Spay her and then start to learn about breeding, get into showing maybe and everything. Then someday in the future you can buy a seal point siamese or a ragdoll rom a breeder who can help you out.

If you just adopted the cat you have now from off the streets, or from a neighbor or an ad in the paper, she is not breeding quality. You need to know the cat's genetic history and family traits and disease and DNA and/or whatever else. You don't want to pass any undesirable traits on to the kittens. If you do not know any of this about your cat you should spay her. The sooner the better.
 
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Thanks! I'll keep all of this in mind!!!
 

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Originally Posted by Jen

Ok, sorry, you made it sound like you were going to find any old long hair cat from who knows where and breed them expecting to get ragdolls. that is not going to happen. if you do want to get into breeding, you probably won't be able to breed the seal point you have now by the time you learn everything you need to know about breeding. Spay her and then start to learn about breeding, get into showing maybe and everything. Then someday in the future you can buy a seal point siamese or a ragdoll rom a breeder who can help you out.

If you just adopted the cat you have now from off the streets, or from a neighbor or an ad in the paper, she is not breeding quality. You need to know the cat's genetic history and family traits and disease and DNA and/or whatever else. You don't want to pass any undesirable traits on to the kittens. If you do not know any of this about your cat you should spay her. The sooner the better.
Yikes!
Someone is a little angry about this subject it seems like!! I am pretty sure that this forum was here to have everyday people like me be able to ask questions without such harsh judgement on our character. I think that Threes company's questions is a legitamate one. As a vet tech of 6 yrs, I cannot tell you how many times a day this time of year I get this question over the phone. Not all people are up to date on this subject and quite a few client come in with kitties that they have adopted from the shelter who are already pregnant. I say good for you Threes company for allowing both moms to have their babies in a warm safe environment and helping them out untill they are old enough to find homes of their own, as well as for spaying the two moms when they get older. All new owners should be as wonderful as you, and to ask a simple question is not a dumb thing at all!!!
 

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All I did was answer her questions and explain the things to consider about breeding before she begins to do it. I also apologized for assuming that she was just going to breed two random cats expecting to get new breed; which was her question and the way she asked it, it seemed like that is where she was headed
 

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As a Ragdoll breeder myself, you would be surprised how many people think that if you mix 2 breeds that it would make a Ragdoll, or if they have a Ragdoll and another mix, that they can produce Ragdolls.
I also thought the poster was headed in the direction of breeding 2 cats without the knowledge that they would not be purebred.
I think that Jen was just trying to make threescompany aware of this and to make her aware that if she is interested in breeding to begin researching.

Threescompany, I think it is wonderful that you took in 2 fosters and are helping with their kittens, and are going to get the Momma's spayed soon.
If you are not planning on breeding your Siamese, my advice is to spay her soon. It is much more healthy for her to be spayed. If you are interested in breeding purebred cats, of any breed, choose the breed you are in love with and do a lot of research first. If after you have researched that breed, then I would suggest owning an alter, and going to cat shows, so you can meet other breeders, and find someone you feel comfortable with to mentor you. I would like to refer you to a post that was recently posted about beginning breeding, it may help you in your decision. http://www.thecatsite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=82978
 
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