Lynx-Point??

Random question here:

Lynx Point is the coloration where cats have the darker lines on the head, legs and tail right? Like a dark brown or black?

Can a Shoeshoe have this? I have seen pictures of Snowshoe cats and my cat looks just like one (from what I can tell) in body structure, coloration, coat, etc. She has the lines though.

Just curious, I know she is a moggie and I will never know for sure. But I was interested because she is unique looking.

I am unsure if Snowshoes can have lynx points? Here is a link to pictures of Ragdolls, which are a pointed breed. These are pictures of Ragdolls with the lynx pattern.
http://ragdollclub.tripod.com/lynx.htm

Snowshoes should be solid pts of chocolate or seal pts ... that is not to say a lynx pt snow is impossible but it is not a std ...
Color TICA standards which became effective 1 May 1994 includes all solid eumalanistic (black based) colors in the particolor pointed division. The two predominate colors are Seal Point and White and Blue Point and White. ACFA and CFF standards remain limited to Seal and Blue colors only.
http://katlbs.tripod.com/sng/id3.html

COLORS:

Pointed solid and white patterns. Points: All solid eumelanistic colors. Dense and clearly defined; connected to the ears by tracings; even shading. Patterns: White. Body: Even coloration, subtle shading to point color on back, shoulders and hips; toning to a lighter shade near chest and stomach. Paw pads: May be white, point color, flesh tone, or mottled.
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/M...ss_siamese.htm

Ok see she has the parts of a solid chocolate color, but then she has the stripes over it. They look different then tabby stripes to me. Her feet and lower legs are white but her upper legs are lightly striped with thick stripes. She has thinner darker lines on her head and tail.

Here you can see the stripes on her head and a little on her leg. She has more but this is the only picture I have, you get the idea...

she si lovely.. not sure if she is a snow but she looks like a lovely pt mix or dare I say siamese?? cross

I would say she is a lynx by the white liner on the edges of her ear & her outlined nose, also her eye lines. But I raise persian & Himalayans so I am not sure about other breeds, Here is a picture of my Seal lynx point kitten Roary (Shaved down right now):

All lynx point means is the cat is carrying the tabby gene and so tabby markings will show in the color parts (the points). So a mixed Snowshoe type of cat may show tabby markings too in the color points if there is a tabby in the background or one parent is a tabby.

Ohh hmm interesting, i was just curious thats all. And interested in lynx-point. Thanks for your responses. There is still a lot i want to learn about coloration and genetics and all that.

From your picture I would not call her a lynx point at all. Pointed means the color is on the face, ears, legs and tail. The body is cream to white.

I'd call her more of a cameo type of tabby with white. She seems to have that white undercoat in the tabby markings. But she has way too much tabby all over to be considered a lynx point.

Just to add...lynx points can be in all of the colorpoint colors. I know as my joshua was a lilac lynx point American Curl, Patrick was a cream lynx point american curl. Lynx points in those colors are SO much fun to watch color up in a kitten

I also wanted to mention that even colorpoints can have unexpected ghost tabby markings that a "good" one should not. Patrick has a brother with gorgeous classic tabby bullseyes on his side, though he was a blue point American Curl. Kinda funky looking

Originally Posted by GoldenKitty45

From your picture I would not call her a lynx point at all. Pointed means the color is on the face, ears, legs and tail. The body is cream to white.

I'd call her more of a cameo type of tabby with white. She seems to have that white undercoat in the tabby markings. But she has way too much tabby all over to be considered a lynx point.

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But she only has stripes on the head tail and upper legs. The rest is that light tan color. Kind of splotchy, but mostly tan. and her feet, neck and belly are completely white.

Jen, she looks like a seal lynx point and white to me.

Originally Posted by GoldenKitty45

She seems to have that white undercoat in the tabby markings.

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She definately does have the white undercoat.

No way is she a "pointed". The body is a classic tabby and both mack and classic will have leg/head/tail striping.

She has far too much tabby all over her body. That is a classic tabby pattern that you call "blotchy".

In order to be pointed you only have color on the face, ears, legs, and tail. While some pointed may have ghost tabby markings (like seal or blue lynx point) on the body the ideal is NO tabby markings on the body.

Originally Posted by GoldenKitty45

No way is she a "pointed". The body is a classic tabby and both mack and classic will have leg/head/tail striping.

She has far too much tabby all over her body. That is a classic tabby pattern that you call "blotchy".

In order to be pointed you only have color on the face, ears, legs, and tail. While some pointed may have ghost tabby markings (like seal or blue lynx point) on the body the ideal is NO tabby markings on the body.

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Sorry, I disagree. Having had pointed and whites that looked like her (I used to breed and show American Curls) and having produced some "awful" re pattern, colorpoints, I've seen all the flaws, she's blue eyed, she's seal...she's pointed. IMO.

Too bad I can't post a photo of a kitten I named John Henry...a blue point who had a solid body color and classic tabby markings rather not ghostly, but strongly there. Again, I've seen/produced some funky colorpoints with classic tabby markings (way early in the breeding program).

Not a shorthair, and not with any tabby markings, here is an example of a cat with a solid looking body who is a seal point and white.

http://www.heavenlymuffins.com/cats_111.htm

Originally Posted by Pat & Alix

Not a shorthair, and not with any tabby markings, here is an example of a cat with a solid looking body who is a seal point and white.

http://www.heavenlymuffins.com/cats_111.htm

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In the pictures you linked us to, the cat on the right has the same color on its back as my cat does. It is basically a solid tan but by splochy I mean some fades lighter and some is slightly darker. Like the cat in the picture on the right.

Sorry guys, I am not trying to start an argument here

Just curious about coloration.

GoldenKitty45: Can you please show me a picture of the classic tabby pattern you are referring to? I always thought of tabbies as being basically a solid brown or grey with dark brown or black stripe (or some sort of pattern) over the whole body.
Like this:
or more unique patterns like this:

My cat only has the light striping on her upper legs, tail and face.

I understand about "points" meaning color only on the head, tail and legs, which she does have this only on the head, tail and legs. But since she has the entirely different solid, splochy tan patch of color on her body, does that classify her as a tabby? Even though there are no markings, patterns or stripes on her body?

Just trying to understand this better
Thanks.

The bottom two cats are classic tabbies - they have the bullseye. On your cat you can see that bullseye pattern - its not really dark like the above pictures but its there. Sometimes a "cameo" which is white undercoat may cause the tabby pattern to blur and not look as clear. The white on her tummy/legs just covers up any striping she has there. You can have purebred tabby and whites - its acceptable now in many breeds (like maine coons, american sh, exotic sh, etc.)

I've see HHP's that barely have enough tabby color with the white and if you can see part of that bullseye pattern, its a classic.

I didn't notice your cat also had the blue eyes - that would mean she is carrying pointed. She might be a 1/2 lynx point but not a true one since she's mixed.

My own kitten Ling was a weird kitten being born blue tabby with dark points. At 2-3 months she (and the rest of the litter) all had solid blue tabby body with seal points (on face, ears, legs - above the white, and tail). By the time they were 4 months old, they all turned black - they look black/white on the surface.

I've spoken to 2 well respected genetic breeder friends who have NO clue what she really is or why blue turned to black. And in the right light you can still see her striping on the body but NONE on the legs/tail where she was seal point.

If anyone can explain that one, I'll be most thankful cause its the weirdest genetics I've seen. One breeder mentioned the possibility of burmese/tonkiness in the background but we have no clue. The mother of the kittens was a tortie (but very long/slender like an oriental).

Ya she has almost turquoise eyes and dark eyeliner and a really pink nose with black outlines
dumb question: what exactly is "seal"

Seal is very dark brown (or genetically "black")
Blue is grey (perfer lighter grey over darker)
Chocolate - is milk chocolate color
Lilac - is pale pinkish blue