Really I have never heard of that for cats. Now when I had horses we would do our own vaccinations. Why didn't I think of that!!! LOL Do you think it is the same stuff as the vets give out? Plus since you don't see a vet, would the state except that you have given your animal the rabies shot on your own?
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OMG IS IT JUST ME OR are vets getting more and more expensive??
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Here's the link to the magazine I saw it in:
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/produc...?N=2002+113227
They also give instructions on how to give the shots. I did check and they don't sell the rabies shot, but they do have the other boosters.
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/produc...?N=2002+113227
They also give instructions on how to give the shots. I did check and they don't sell the rabies shot, but they do have the other boosters.
It would be as easy as getting a general blood titer test done. It would show the immunity levels.
I give my own shots on my cats, and Dogs. Except Rabies as by law that has to be done by a vet. when we go in for annual check up we get rabies done.
New kittens go to the vet for their shots only because I also do all the testing, ect at the same time.
New kittens go to the vet for their shots only because I also do all the testing, ect at the same time.
Great that is the route I am going to be taking from now on. Thanks for the tip. (ScamperFarm) I just have to say I am sorry your kitten Ares passed on. But I had to comment, what breed was Ares? I mean that is a real cute cat.
He was a persian.
Thank you. He really was a sweety and will be missed forever. He was the perfect little embassador.
Ares was a Persian ( classical old style in the face, aka doll face) and was to be my future stud.
we will be getting *fingers crossed* a full brother once his momma is bred again. and we are hopeing for a baby that looks just like him.
Wow I have two half Persians, and they don't look like him. I like his face. I don't really care for the smushed in face of some Persians. so I would have never guessed he was one. Well I hope you do get one that will look like him. I would love to see the babies out of this union.
I was wondering this same thing as Grazee's bill for a broken front paw
was $175 dollars.
$50 for the splint
$27 exam
$66 for x rays
$20 for sedation
$12 for e collar
And this was her regular vet not an emergency clinic. I didn't mind paying that much but it made me sad thinking of cats, dogs, other pets who don't get help because of the cost.
was $175 dollars.
$50 for the splint
$27 exam
$66 for x rays
$20 for sedation
$12 for e collar
And this was her regular vet not an emergency clinic. I didn't mind paying that much but it made me sad thinking of cats, dogs, other pets who don't get help because of the cost.
Exactly. That's why I do *as much* as I can at home,
and learned kitty first aid!
(I can shave, clip and clean out
a wound pretty darn well thank you!)
When Lexi was bit
by diablo and the wound was puss filled... I shaved it, cleaned
it, gave her the proper weight dose of Baytril (which the
vet had given me a few months before..) Of course I had help -
my neighbor "held" her in a cat burrito (towel wrapped round her),
to immobilize.
When I was done, I called the home based visit vet to
come out... she came, checked my
work, clipped her nails and gave an anti bio shot and charged 75 for the whole thing.
And if I'd gone to a vet clinic? round here, that would have been
a 125 or more bill...
I also don't believe older cats that don't go out need anything
but MAYBE a rabies shot...the other shots?
Well, if they aren't exposed, they aren't getting the diseases. And since
mine WERE outdoorsy, if they were exposed then, there is
nothing I can do about now.
(Harsh thinking, but true. I've
learned alot in the last 20 years about keeping cats safe.)
And otherwise, preventative care such as diet, lots of love and
home nursing gets them well faster than a stay at the vets.
I can give Sub Q fluids, administer insulin and Adequan (intra muscular
injections), and pill the suckers ...so... I can treat alot of things...
I can force feed with baby food, and give total body massages and T touch.
In years past, I'd have
taken to vet for these things, but the way it is now, I simply can't afford
vet care. Just the basics.
And I'm pretty well off, so just think about
folks with pets who aren't as well off... what must they be going through,
and their animals with them??
I think we should have a MUCH better system of low cost vet care.
Through animal control and humane socieities. God bless the vets that do pro bono...
and learned kitty first aid!
(I can shave, clip and clean out
a wound pretty darn well thank you!)
When Lexi was bit
by diablo and the wound was puss filled... I shaved it, cleaned
it, gave her the proper weight dose of Baytril (which the
vet had given me a few months before..) Of course I had help -
my neighbor "held" her in a cat burrito (towel wrapped round her),
to immobilize.
When I was done, I called the home based visit vet to
come out... she came, checked my
work, clipped her nails and gave an anti bio shot and charged 75 for the whole thing.
And if I'd gone to a vet clinic? round here, that would have been
a 125 or more bill...
I also don't believe older cats that don't go out need anything
but MAYBE a rabies shot...the other shots?
Well, if they aren't exposed, they aren't getting the diseases. And since
mine WERE outdoorsy, if they were exposed then, there is
nothing I can do about now.
(Harsh thinking, but true. I've
learned alot in the last 20 years about keeping cats safe.)
And otherwise, preventative care such as diet, lots of love and
home nursing gets them well faster than a stay at the vets.
I can give Sub Q fluids, administer insulin and Adequan (intra muscular
injections), and pill the suckers ...so... I can treat alot of things...
I can force feed with baby food, and give total body massages and T touch.
In years past, I'd have
taken to vet for these things, but the way it is now, I simply can't afford
vet care. Just the basics.
And I'm pretty well off, so just think about
folks with pets who aren't as well off... what must they be going through,
and their animals with them??
I think we should have a MUCH better system of low cost vet care.
Through animal control and humane socieities. God bless the vets that do pro bono...
I am on another site, and had mentioned doing my own care at home. Because of the vet cost of late. I have been getting a lot of flack for it. Here is what one person posted back to me.
There are several problems with using vaccinations bought from sources other than your vet.
1) Vaccines must be stored properly, expirations checked, and if shipped, they must be shipped in dry ice. You cannot gaurantee the safety and purity of the vaccines during storage, shipping and handling of vaccines bought outside of your vet. When vets buy their vaccines, they use trusted representatives from the vaccine manufacturer, their lots are shipped properly and promptly, to avoid contamination, and upon arrival, are carefully inspected for any damages. They are then stored/refrigerated properly.
2) Buying from pet store magazines or online does not afford the safety as outlined above. Plus, you can never gaurantee the products will include safe handling and administration instuctions. Vaccines must be handled properly, refrigerated at appropriate temperatures, must be mixed properly, and cannot be left out after mixing. If handled improperly, there is a risk of impurity, contamination, or failure of the vaccine's effectiveness.
3) If you buy vaccines from a source other than your vet, and should your pet(s) develop a serious reaction as a result of administration, you will have absolutely no recourse to recover expense and damages, because the vaccine manufacturer will not gaurantee the product if it is sold and/or administered without a vet's supervision (i.e., Merial, Fort Dodge, etc).
4) Should your pet(s) develop a serious reaction to a vaccine you have given yourself, you may not recognize some of the reaction symptoms, or be aware that immediate veterinary attention is warranted for a severe vaccine reaction. A lot of time can be wasted because you may not be able to get your pet to a vet as quickly as necessary and your pet can suffer needlessly.
5) The rabies vaccine needs to be given by a licensed vet, per the law.
6) The most important reason of all: A complete exam on your pet(s) should always be done prior to any vaccine administered. For the simple reason that if your pet(s) were suffering a hidden illness, or bacterial infection, etc, your vet could detect the condition before risking the immune system by giving a vaccine. Giving vaccines to an ill pet is dangerous and puts the pet at further risk.
7) The net is not the proper place to determine what is or what is not the best health care, illness, vaccine usage, etc for your pets. Only your vet can determine those needs based on a variety of factors, which were clearly outlined above in the links given you. Your vet needs to evaluate your dogs on an annual basis to determine what vaccinations, schedules, etc will best fit your dogs, based on his assessment of them and based on their health histories, etc.
The net is filled with misinformation, and you should never really on any of it for a substitute for regular veterinary care.
8 ) Vets aren't making an exceptional amount of money on vaccines. The focus and priority for their clients and patients is health awareness, wellness and prevention of disease. Yearly exams are crucial for ALL pets so that your vet can detect health problems early on and treat them most effectively, or in some health conditions, to slow the progression of the disease.
The veterinary clinic is a business, not unlike any other business. It is a health care system for pets. You expect the best care from your physcian, likewise you expect the best care from your veterinarian. The costs of veterinary care are justified for most cases, your vet has expenses just like any other business. With an ever increasing demand for optimal care, diagnosis and treatment options for pets, comes an expense, that's part of responsible pet-ownership.
9) Compliance on the owner's part is also crucial. So, as noted in #6 above, to give vaccinations on your own and never get your pets examined on a regular basis until you feel the need to do so, is putting your pets at risk for various health problems and/or complications.
10) A common scenario: Owner gives vaccinations on her own. Dog suffers severe reaction or illness, does not recognize the symptoms, delays vital veterinary attention until the problem has escalated. Finally takes pet into vet. Vet cannot discern if the symptoms are caused by the vaccinations alone, or due to an underlying illness that has been progressing. The illness could have been progressing for some time and the vaccination administration has exacerbated the condition, making treatment exceptionally difficult.
If you don't think this ever happens or cannot happen to your pet(s), think again, sadly it happens all the time.
This forum strongly advocates health awareness and wellness exams. Your vet is the ONLY one who can perform those exams and make reasonable suggestions and recommendations based on those exams and based on your dogs' individual needs as they apply.
There are several problems with using vaccinations bought from sources other than your vet.
1) Vaccines must be stored properly, expirations checked, and if shipped, they must be shipped in dry ice. You cannot gaurantee the safety and purity of the vaccines during storage, shipping and handling of vaccines bought outside of your vet. When vets buy their vaccines, they use trusted representatives from the vaccine manufacturer, their lots are shipped properly and promptly, to avoid contamination, and upon arrival, are carefully inspected for any damages. They are then stored/refrigerated properly.
2) Buying from pet store magazines or online does not afford the safety as outlined above. Plus, you can never gaurantee the products will include safe handling and administration instuctions. Vaccines must be handled properly, refrigerated at appropriate temperatures, must be mixed properly, and cannot be left out after mixing. If handled improperly, there is a risk of impurity, contamination, or failure of the vaccine's effectiveness.
3) If you buy vaccines from a source other than your vet, and should your pet(s) develop a serious reaction as a result of administration, you will have absolutely no recourse to recover expense and damages, because the vaccine manufacturer will not gaurantee the product if it is sold and/or administered without a vet's supervision (i.e., Merial, Fort Dodge, etc).
4) Should your pet(s) develop a serious reaction to a vaccine you have given yourself, you may not recognize some of the reaction symptoms, or be aware that immediate veterinary attention is warranted for a severe vaccine reaction. A lot of time can be wasted because you may not be able to get your pet to a vet as quickly as necessary and your pet can suffer needlessly.
5) The rabies vaccine needs to be given by a licensed vet, per the law.
6) The most important reason of all: A complete exam on your pet(s) should always be done prior to any vaccine administered. For the simple reason that if your pet(s) were suffering a hidden illness, or bacterial infection, etc, your vet could detect the condition before risking the immune system by giving a vaccine. Giving vaccines to an ill pet is dangerous and puts the pet at further risk.
7) The net is not the proper place to determine what is or what is not the best health care, illness, vaccine usage, etc for your pets. Only your vet can determine those needs based on a variety of factors, which were clearly outlined above in the links given you. Your vet needs to evaluate your dogs on an annual basis to determine what vaccinations, schedules, etc will best fit your dogs, based on his assessment of them and based on their health histories, etc.
The net is filled with misinformation, and you should never really on any of it for a substitute for regular veterinary care.
8 ) Vets aren't making an exceptional amount of money on vaccines. The focus and priority for their clients and patients is health awareness, wellness and prevention of disease. Yearly exams are crucial for ALL pets so that your vet can detect health problems early on and treat them most effectively, or in some health conditions, to slow the progression of the disease.
The veterinary clinic is a business, not unlike any other business. It is a health care system for pets. You expect the best care from your physcian, likewise you expect the best care from your veterinarian. The costs of veterinary care are justified for most cases, your vet has expenses just like any other business. With an ever increasing demand for optimal care, diagnosis and treatment options for pets, comes an expense, that's part of responsible pet-ownership.
9) Compliance on the owner's part is also crucial. So, as noted in #6 above, to give vaccinations on your own and never get your pets examined on a regular basis until you feel the need to do so, is putting your pets at risk for various health problems and/or complications.
10) A common scenario: Owner gives vaccinations on her own. Dog suffers severe reaction or illness, does not recognize the symptoms, delays vital veterinary attention until the problem has escalated. Finally takes pet into vet. Vet cannot discern if the symptoms are caused by the vaccinations alone, or due to an underlying illness that has been progressing. The illness could have been progressing for some time and the vaccination administration has exacerbated the condition, making treatment exceptionally difficult.
If you don't think this ever happens or cannot happen to your pet(s), think again, sadly it happens all the time.
This forum strongly advocates health awareness and wellness exams. Your vet is the ONLY one who can perform those exams and make reasonable suggestions and recommendations based on those exams and based on your dogs' individual needs as they apply.
I don't think most pet owners are capable of giving vaccinations at home. They just simply don't know what they're doing. Obviously, some people are the exception to that. They know what they're doing and are competent not only at giving the vaccination but at handling whatever might come up. I think it's a good idea to be careful about being in favor of something that the majority aren't capable of doing, because they might get the mistaken impression that it's all right. Perhaps that attitude is what prompted the lengthy posting on the other board.
And as noted in a previous post, the law requires rabies vaccinations to be given by a licensed vet, in any case.
And as noted in a previous post, the law requires rabies vaccinations to be given by a licensed vet, in any case.
Thats one heck of a post. Granted not everyoen can give vaccines. So i can see why that would take place. I can, I can give fluids, and a myriad of other things as well. I can start an iv too. I do take my animals in for an annual and their rabies..
ah well...some will always think no one but a vet should give vaccines.
Thanks. Fingers and toes crossed here.
I wouldn't feel comfortable doing my own vaccinations, I would worry in case they moved and only got a part dose, and also in case they had a reaction - plus I wouldn't be able to listen to heart etc that my vets do before giving vaccinations - my two had theirs done for the first time last year, and both vets (done when my regular vet was on hol, so had two different vets) gave them a thorough check - only one picked up on Ginger's heart murmur though (admittedly he purrs so loudly that a couple of vets have given up trying to listen to his heart).
For those who live in Michigan. The michigan humane society has received a grant. You can have your cat spayed/neutered and get kitties vaccines for $20.
Here are the details in pdf format.
http://www.michiganhumane.org/site/D....pdf?docID=881
Hopefully this will happen more often and in other areas
Here are the details in pdf format.
http://www.michiganhumane.org/site/D....pdf?docID=881
Hopefully this will happen more often and in other areas
I know I can't give them their rabies shots, but other then that I know I can handle the other shots. I have been taking care of my animals pretty much all my life. On a farm you can't bring every animal in just because it got a cut or sneezed. You learn to do the job yourself, and if it turned bad, then you ask for vet assistance. If you feel you can't handle doing these things yourself. That is OK too, take your animal into the vet. I'm not saying you shouldn't. What I am saying is, I don't think it is right for others to tell you your not a good pet owner because you don't run to the vet every time fluffy has to sneeze!!! The world has had animals as pets a lot longer then there ever was vets. I in no way am putting down their profession. I wanted to be one at one point in my life. But the cost of schooling just was too much. So by no means do I think we can do with out them. But they do have there place in this world. And I am appreciative that they fill that need very well. I just don't think it is life threatening to not go to them as often as others seem to think you must go.
I should also let you know, I do take my guys in once a year for their check up, and rabies shot. I just went a bit crazy when I got a message from our local vet. It will cost me 559.60 for all my guys to get their visit done. Now that is a bit insane if you ask me. I think I am going to just ask for the shots from the vets and do it myself. What the lady said about not knowing if the shots were handled right makes sence to me. All the shots we use to give our animals on the farm, was given to us by the vets. So I think that more then likely is the best route to take. But with care, you can give a shot, and it will be alright.
Ares was a really cute cat. I knew people were still breeding the dollface Persians but seems like I don't see them as often as the traditional Siamese. I prefer both the dollface Persians and the traditional Siamese. I bet they don't have the eye problems that the modern Persians have which of course would cut down on the Vet bills. I saw on someones bill that they were charged $12 for an e-collar. One of my cats had one and it was something the vet tech put together with a flexible light piece of plastic and a lenghth of gauze and I wasn't charged anything for it. Charging someone $12 for an e-collar is crazy.
thank you. Your right. Our doll face babies dont have near ANY of the problems our little rescue Peke face girl does.
