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So I was down at the Petco today....

post #1 of 27
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I don't know why. I usually don't go to Petco because if I'm going to spend that kind of money, I'm going to go to one of the boutiques.

But that's beside the point.

They were having a low-cost vaccination day, which apparently they do every couple months or something. At first, I was really excited that a major pet supply chain was doing this.

Then, I realized that they obviously have no specifications as to who can get a low-cost vaccine.

Now, I live in Lincoln Park in Chicago, which, if you've been there, is pretty much a rich, white, yuppie, trendy neighborhood. In the line for low cost vaccinations, there was a parade of people with their purebred pups with their Coach bags and Chanel sunglasses.

Am I the only one that has a problem with people that can afford Coach tote bags standing in line for $10 vaccinations? I mean, I have no problem with people wanting to save money or low-income pet parents who are only able to give the minimum amount of care necessary to take care of their animals...but if you carry around a Coach bag and wear Seven jeans and drive a Jag, you're probably not awfully concerned with saving money. What this kind of thing says to me is that the pet is not worth the investment in the best quality food and care that is available which is, IMO, what every owner shoudl strive for. If I can afford natural foods and feline-specialist care, then they can, too. I'm a college student for goodness sake! I hold down an extra job to provide this for my fur family. I don't expect that everyone will do this, but...if you can afford a BMW, you can afford to take your dog into the vet to have vaccinations done. The whole purpose of Petco's thing is to provide for people that normally wouldn't vaccinate their pets because of $$ issues. I feel like these people are completely taking advantage of they system.
post #2 of 27
I agree with you. At the same time though, maybe they would never vaccinate their pets if it wasn't for the program? Which is totally ridiculous, but some of these people treat their pets as accesories, and probably wouldn't be bothered to take time out of their high colonic daiquiri drinking afternoon to go to the vet. I know not everyone with money is like that, but, you can only watch Daddy's Spoiled Little Brat or whatever its called about twice before it makes you wanna puke. I never will understand the people who throw money around like that... You can't take it with you!
post #3 of 27
I don't have a problem with them getting the best value for thier money UNLESS Petco were turning away the folks with less money - then I'd have an issue with it.
post #4 of 27
That really burns my butt, too, but like Zizzou'sMom said, it might not get done otherwise. Those are the kind of people that probably get rid of the animals when they are no longer a fashionable accessory. I could go on for days ranting about that!
I am having a little financial diffficulty right now, so I am going to have to get Fluffy spayed at a low cost Humane Society program. It is either that or wait to have it done, making the poor baby miserable longer that necessary. If I get my tax refund back before that appointment, I will go to my regular vet and have it done. I feel really bad going through this program, but I will make a donation to the Humne Society when I get a little more money, or my tax return comes in.
post #5 of 27
You get what you pay for...
What if one of those pets had an anaphylactic reaction? Would they be able to save it? I doubt it, not without a veterinarian, IV fluids and emergency drugs. It a $10 vaccine worth your pets life?
post #6 of 27
If the Petco is in Lincoln Park and the demographic is as you say, why would they expect low income people to show up in the first place? They wouldn't be shopping in that neighborhood.
I think if Petco is offering up a no restrictions low cost vaccine program, then it's perfectly OK for people of any means to take advantage of it.
And, I'm willing to bet that Petco wants the well heeled to show up for the vaccines, because they know the pet owners will be spending some money on merchandise as well.
I personally wouldn't take my cats there for vaccines, because I only trust my own Vet, but that's me.
post #7 of 27
Doesn't bother me. IMO, I would rather see people, of any means, taking advantage of low cost shots, neuter/spay or any health care instead of not doing anything to make an effort to care for their animals.

IMO, this is really no different than someone of means using a coupon. They are well within their right to save money if the opportunity arises.

As far as the risks involved, like somplications from the shots, the wealthy are FAR more likely to have the means to ensure the cat would get emergency care in that circumstance than someone with no money. So that point doesn't make it any worse or better, IMO.

I agree with Yosemite, unless they are turning away people in favor of those with means, I don't have a problem with it.
post #8 of 27
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Originally Posted by Kai Bengals
If the Petco is in Lincoln Park and the demographic is as you say, why would they expect low income people to show up in the first place? They wouldn't be shopping in that neighborhood.
I think if Petco is offering up a no restrictions low cost vaccine program, then it's perfectly OK for people of any means to take advantage of it.
And, I'm willing to bet that Petco wants the well heeled to show up for the vaccines, because they know the pet owners will be spending some money on merchandise as well.
I personally wouldn't take my cats there for vaccines, because I only trust my own Vet, but that's me.
I agree. Do they hold these programs in the low soc-ec neighbourhoods too? That's where they need the help obviously, but then again, those folks aren't going to go all out buying expensive accessories while they're there.
post #9 of 27
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I mean, I have no problem with people wanting to save money or low-income pet parents who are only able to give the minimum amount of care necessary to take care of their animals...but if you carry around a Coach bag and wear Seven jeans and drive a Jag, you're probably not awfully concerned with saving money.
Why do people automatically assume that wealthy people are not concerned with saving money? Or that they should not be concerned with it?

I know quite a few very wealthy people and they like to get a 'deal' just as much as the next person.

You might be surprised the deals they got on their Jags, coach purses, etc. Many people are wealthy because they are savvy.
post #10 of 27
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Originally Posted by pushylady
I agree. Do they hold these programs in the low soc-ec neighbourhoods too? That's where they need the help obviously, but then again, those folks aren't going to go all out buying expensive accessories while they're there.
But that's the thing...there ARE no Petcos in the low income neighborhoods. Chicago, if you don't know this, is THE most segregated city in the country. And, as to stereotype, the black neighborhoods are extremely poor and plagued with crime...statistically, most of them don't have a grocery store that sells produce, much less a Petco. The Petco on Clybourn is a few blocks from where Lincoln Park turns into Logan Square, which is a mixed income neighborhood.

I DID see one guy there who had just gotten his Pit spayed and was vaccinating her. The Pit was obviously an animal that he was getting assistance with through organizations like the one giving out the $10 vacs. There were a good number of such people, but an equal number of yuppies.
post #11 of 27
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But that's the thing...there ARE no Petcos in the low income neighborhoods.
That is probably because they know they would not make any money in a low income area. I can't fault Petco for offering a service that gets more animals vaccinated, to me it is a good thing all the way around.

Most humane societies have low cost spay/neuter/shots/health care clinics. That is where people of low income could go for these services. They are usually income based, in my understanding.
post #12 of 27
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Originally Posted by Yosemite
I don't have a problem with them getting the best value for thier money UNLESS Petco were turning away the folks with less money - then I'd have an issue with it.
They're obviously limited in terms of time and supply. I think that the best case situation would be to do a mobile program that travles to the people that need it most. But...people should have a little discretion, I think. Maybe Petco should be responsible for that.

They also tend to camp out in LP because of the college students around here that adopt pets they can barely afford to keep.
post #13 of 27
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They're obviously limited in terms of time and supply. I think that the best case situation would be to do a mobile program that travles to the people that need it most. But...people should have a little discretion, I think. Maybe Petco should be responsible for that.
I think it would be a great idea for Petco or any other store to provide a mobile program, but I certainly do no think they should be expected to. They are not a charity or a humane society, they are a retail pet supply store and they will do whatever it takes to get people in their stores.

If anything, I think people should be pushing for the aspca and humane societies across the nation to set up more mobile units to reach people who are of little means.
post #14 of 27
I have always prefered to visit the "vaccination drive" vacc clinics that licensed vets or municipal animal shelters do.

I have yet to find an actual animal hospital that doesn't do discount vaccs at least once a year to drum up new clientel.
post #15 of 27
I'm very aware that people who are wealthy are often very concerned with saving money.
I had a nanny when I was little, but at the same time my mom spent every Sunday working on her coupon book, and they bought only one new car in their whole lives, but the house sold for nearly half a million.

There are some things you want to save money on, clothes, food, cars, etc, and some things you don't, like underwear and health care.
post #16 of 27
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There are some things you want to save money on, clothes, food, cars, etc, and some things you don't, like underwear and health care.
I guess everyone has a different idea on that, or there wouldn't be wealthy people in Petco getting shots for their animals, LOL
post #17 of 27
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Originally Posted by Dr. Doolittle
You get what you pay for...
What if one of those pets had an anaphylactic reaction? Would they be able to save it? I doubt it, not without a veterinarian, IV fluids and emergency drugs. It a $10 vaccine worth your pets life?
NOT ONLY THAT BUT - MOST Of these Vets vaccinate in the "easiest" spot - in the scruff! These people are putting their cats in danger and IF the cat gets VAS they will never know which Vet caused it and the vet sure won't give a darn!
post #18 of 27
Thats a great point I hadn't thought of that.....but you are right sarcoma tumors in cats do happen.....
post #19 of 27
I am amazed at the way these people who none of us have ever met are being judged just for being 'rich'.

It's not like they are taking up a free service or one which is reserved for 'poor' people. they are taking up an offer for cheaper vaccinations.

No-one here knows there reasoning for going to Petco for the vaccinations, it may be that petco was closer or they were there anyway and thought that it would be easier to get the booster than go to the vets.

Many animals are scared of the vets, the owners might have felt like it was less stressful for the pet.

How anyone can say that the owners dont love or care for their pets whilst they are getting them vaccinated, based on their wealth and status is beyond me.
post #20 of 27
IMO, they have to stay "wealthy" somehow.

For example, I grew up in an area, that well isn't quite like Lincoln Park, but there are people with money there. One incident I remember is a guy comes into the carry out place I had worked for (way long time ago). He tried to bargain me for food, offering me a lower price for a lot of stuff. When I told him that we have set prices and don't use the bargain system, he places his order and whips out a $50 to pay for a $10 bill.

Keep in mind too that although not every wealthy person is this way, some of them see their animals as accessories. The same area I talked about would buy $40K vehicles (Landrovers, Caddies, Lexus,etc) and pull out in front of you with NO PROBLEM. Their attitude is if I paid that much for the vehicle, you better get $(*&% out of my way.
post #21 of 27
Yes, I have a huge problem with it. And people who take advantage of these services when they can fully afford the regular prices are largely responsible for the cat and dog overpopulation crisis.

Why? Because vets who volunteer for low-cost spay/neuter and vaccination clinics see obviously wealthy people taking advantage of these services and they rightfully feel that their expertise is being disrespected and their goodwill is being taken advantage of. So they stop offering or volunteering for the low-cost services altogether. And this means that there are fewer or no low-cost or no-cost options available for the feral and stray animals and pets of low-income people, who absolutely would have no way of getting medical care without the goodwill of these doctors who volunteer their services.
post #22 of 27
Could it be some of them are in my boat... if you saw my house and my neighborhood , I look well off ... I have always lived in more affulent areas yet never been really affluent ... I would go to the shot clinic at the local feed or pet store to save a little $$ due to vets here charging an office fee plus the shots... I am lucky mine doesnt but Zoeys booster were 52$ ... Kandies was 45$ at a different vet and Gigis I had a coupon so they were 39$ ... Since i am withing 200% of the poverty leval of my area that is alot for me ....
By contrast a vet who only does shot clinics now would have been 18 for the cats and 20 for the dog
post #23 of 27
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Originally Posted by poohandwendy
Doesn't bother me. IMO, I would rather see people, of any means, taking advantage of low cost shots, neuter/spay or any health care instead of not doing anything to make an effort to care for their animals.

IMO, this is really no different than someone of means using a coupon. They are well within their right to save money if the opportunity arises.

As far as the risks involved, like somplications from the shots, the wealthy are FAR more likely to have the means to ensure the cat would get emergency care in that circumstance than someone with no money. So that point doesn't make it any worse or better, IMO.

I agree with Yosemite, unless they are turning away people in favor of those with means, I don't have a problem with it.

My point was that emergency care would not be available without a proper vet clinic close by. Anaphylaxis requires imediate treatment- you only have a matter of minutes to save an animals life.
post #24 of 27
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Originally Posted by Dr. Doolittle
My point was that emergency care would not be available without a proper vet clinic close by. Anaphylaxis requires imediate treatment- you only have a matter of minutes to save an animals life.

I have also yet to see any of those clinics with actual vets there, just techs.
I don't mind techs giving the vaccs, but I'd prefer to go where there is a vet on hand...in case.
post #25 of 27
I think I will ground myself from any pet store LOL I will go broke if I dont.
post #26 of 27
I wiuld be one of those people who are considered well off. (no Jag-even though we did look at them that's not how I want to sepnd my $$$). I agree that its good that they are geeting their pet vaccinated but on the other hand why are they their instead of a regular vet?? Perhaps they don't realize who is actually giving the vaccinations and what could happen if there is a problem. There are just taking advatnage of what is being offered to the public w/o thinking through the outcomes. BTW if they are so shallow that they have to display their "status symbols" that is their problem not for me to worry about. Its their money and they can spend it anyway they want.
post #27 of 27
I'll tell you what scares me far more than these clinics - "do it yourself" vaccines! I actually saw them advertised for both cats and dogs in a pet supply catalog. There's no way I would vaccinate an animal on my own because I'm not sure I would be doing it right.

I wasn't aware of possible reactions, but since I always get my boys vaccinated at the vets office it never crossed my mind. I think some people who can afford regular vet care go to shot clinics because of the time factor. Go in, stand in line and get the shot is easier than booking an appointment and possibly having a vet keep you there while he or she asks a bunch of questions (even if the questions are valid about the health of your pet.)
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