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post #31 of 44
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Originally Posted by Loveysmummy

The sure way to combat this issue is to educate our children and those in care of them. Pedophiles rarely prey on those children that have the knowledge to know what is right and wrong and are closely monitored by their caregivers. I don't mean heavily supervised or kept in a cage but rather these parents are educated as to the issue and are aware of who their children are with and when and having the intuition to know better. I would never blame the parents for this crime, but I have to wonder where they were when these children were being violated.
My oldest was molested by my babysitter's husband, while I was at work. She was about 18 months to 2 years old. It isn't always family, sometimes it is someone the family trusts, like a sitter, or neighbor.

I have had 3 more children, and have never found a way to really teach them about child molesters, except the basic rule that no one should touch you where your bathing suit covers. But sexual abuse is so horrifying, how can you tell a young child about it?

I initally responding to the molestation by deciding never to have any more children, since it is impossible to guarentee their safety. Luckily I did have an oops baby several years later. However, my refusal to work and leave him with a sitter was part of why my then husband divorced me.

My oldest is doing pretty well now, and I think she has recovered from the abuse the best she could. If I had my choice, the death penalty would be the punishment. These offenders are known to be repeat criminals.

In the real world, a lot of offenders would be released rather than put to death, so a lifetime of isolation far away from other humans would satisfy me. But a few years for ruining little people's lives is inappropriate.
post #32 of 44
All I can say is to please, please tell your kids about good touch/bad touch, or touching were undies or bathing suits cover as soon as they can start talking. This was the thing that allowed me to finally question my abuse and after that it stopped! I can vividly remember the day when we talked about good touch/bad touch in elementary school and that was the day that I felt powerful enough to say no.

Thank God they caught those guys. I just hope they actually get a decent sentence and not the usual slap on the wrist. There is one guy who lives in my college town that actually got life for molestation, but some other guy nearer to where I live that barely got any kind of punishment. I just wish we could put them away for life. It is things like that that do make me question my stance on capital punishment, especially for those creeps that say kids want it.
post #33 of 44
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Originally Posted by Loveysmummy
It seems that many are confused as to the housing arrangements of sex offenders..They aren't housed in the general population. For the entirety of their sentence, they aren't even in the same building as regular high risk offenders. So, there is no getting their "just desserts" so to speak from other criminals.


What should happen is we need to extend the death penalty to cases other than murder, such as for example, attempted murder, and child rape. It is repulsive to think of what happened here, but the attitudes of some in our Justice system is not in accord with the revulsion of the general public. For instance a Judge in Ohio, last week sentenced a CONFESSED CHILD RAPIST (he raped 2 boys for three years) to ZERO TIME IN JAIL! If we are going to demand punishment fitting the crime for these sub-humans, we need Judges that will do the job at sentencing.
post #34 of 44
There are some states that allow child molesters to be in general population. I knew a guy that got a long sentence for drugging and molesting a 5 year old boy, and he was housed with the rest of the convicts. I knew 2 brothers that did time for other stuff, and they said the child molesters were in general population there. They were in 2 different states. Nice to know that some places give them what they deserve.
As far ast these people being vicious animals, I respectfully beg to differ with the person that referred to them as that. Animals would never treat their young like that.
post #35 of 44
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Originally Posted by ScamperFarms
people like this are the reason i do support the death pently. like was already stated, kill em and let god sort em out
My Pastor said if WE kill WE are as guilty as killers are SOOOOO why not do the testing on THEM that we now do on poor innocent animals? After all we test on animals ONLY to protect humans - so why not just test on filth like this?!
post #36 of 44
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Originally Posted by MyBabies
why not do the testing on THEM that we now do on poor innocent animals? After all we test on animals ONLY to protect humans - so why not just test on filth like this?!
For many reasons, the main one being that drug test volunteers have to be that - volunteers. They also need to be healthy, many convicts have health or drugs issues so wouldn't be any good for testing.
My real issue with using prison populations for drug testing is that Hitler thought it was a great idea, so I have to say I'm against it.
post #37 of 44
That is disgusting. I know it goes on but I didn't realise people were showing it live on the net. Those poor poor children have to live with this for the rest of their lives.
post #38 of 44
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Originally Posted by krazy kat2
There are some states that allow child molesters to be in general population. I knew a guy that got a long sentence for drugging and molesting a 5 year old boy, and he was housed with the rest of the convicts. I knew 2 brothers that did time for other stuff, and they said the child molesters were in general population there. They were in 2 different states. Nice to know that some places give them what they deserve.
As far ast these people being vicious animals, I respectfully beg to differ with the person that referred to them as that. Animals would never treat their young like that.
I don't know about the US system but I am sure that the two brothers you knew and the other guy were termed very low risk offenders. Sometimes, they will house low level criminals (like petty theft) with the sex offender population.
But they will not house high risk or assaultive/combative prisoners with this population. It would just be a stupid and dangerous thing to do...
post #39 of 44
A majority of criminals sentenced to life (w/o parole) would prefer the death penalty. So, which is the greater punishment? Seems to me like what the chomos deserve is to be put in solitary for life and kept very physically healthy so they can enjoy the rest of their terrible terrible life.

The best way to help your kid is to teach them their own anatomy in adult words without acting like there is anything to be ashamed of. You teach them the correct words for everything else don't you? "Bathing suit area" teaches kids that there is something dark and mysterious about it, that even you can't call by a real name. Also make sure they know that if anyone ever does anything to make them uncomfortable to tell you, no matter who it is. The no matter who it is is the most important part. And that you can and will take their side and protect them no matter what the ****** has threatened to do.

They mostly think that children want it. Ever heard of NAMBLA?
post #40 of 44
I think the first no questions asked step - is to remove their "johnsons". Then I think they should all be forced to be housed on a separate island for the rest of their lives (permanent exile). Then if they want to molest someone - let them molest each other and get a taste of their own terrors!

I know some will disagree with this - but I just do not see these people as human beings, so why should we treat them that way.
post #41 of 44
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Originally Posted by valanhb
I read the story on CNN yesterday, and seriously about threw up. I can understand a lot of fetishes, but a BABY? Those people should just be lined up and shot, because there is no cure and they don't want to be cured. There is no rehabilitation. Just kill 'em all and let god sort them out.
I agree, unfortunately these EVIL pieces of garbage will not be be given the death penalty because (at least here in the US) there is no nationwide support for enacting a suitable punishment for child abusers.

I wonder if the reason we are so unwilling to punish child abusers is tied to the staggering number of child abuse cases. We know the number of reported cases, but who knows how many more are getting away with it? With so many abusers among us, it is no wonder that the punishment is so lax.

It is a shame.
post #42 of 44
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Originally Posted by millyanddaisy
For many reasons, the main one being that drug test volunteers have to be that - volunteers. They also need to be healthy, many convicts have health or drugs issues so wouldn't be any good for testing.
My real issue with using prison populations for drug testing is that Hitler thought it was a great idea, so I have to say I'm against it.
So these child molestors do some time - get all sorts of privledges and then get out to do it again! Same with killers and rapists! Not all are on drugs or unhealthy - except in their minds!
post #43 of 44
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Originally Posted by lisasha3
I think the first no questions asked step - is to remove their "johnsons". Then I think they should all be forced to be housed on a separate island for the rest of their lives (permanent exile). Then if they want to molest someone - let them molest each other and get a taste of their own terrors!

I know some will disagree with this - but I just do not see these people as human beings, so why should we treat them that way.
I was thinking along them same lines on casteration or chemical castration (Sorry I can not spell today)for men and whatever process they have for women to remove the sex drive. If these people are sick and unable to control themselves then there are medical solutions to these problems.
post #44 of 44
"The primary host was allegedly a user from Clarksville, Tenn., with the screen name G.O.D., who was arrested March 6."

I am so embarassed to live here.
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