Oh I so agree with you Gayef - it seems not common to find a real chocolate point and many ppl, unless they are like you involved in breeding them fulltime and with good knowledge, confuse chocolate and Seal. Seal Pts are definitely the easiest and Blues the 2nd - b/c you can see the little blue pts in color endings. It is very unusual to have two chocolate pts I love Siamese so I imagine the registry and local show circuit where you live must be quite curious and anxious to see these babies - and if you are adopting them (I must apologize for not reading the whole thread), you may garner much interest in the Siamese community in which I assume you are quite involved. I have a tough time myself telling if one is a chocolate - I need to see the certificate and the predigree lines to be sure and even then I wonder. A dark Seal sometimes gets labelled a chocolate by unkowing people which can cause probs or at least is unfair to whoever purchases the kitten thinking they are getting a true chocolate point.
I rely on my mom who showed Siamese for several years though she never got into the breeding arena - it is a lot of work, all that paperwork and shows and ensuring the Queen is show quality and has all her rosettes or her grandmother or mother does (I forget the whole process, I was more of the gofer and reseacher with my mom and her friends and thus ended up volunteering in rescue, lol
Siamese Rescue in Va has found some chocolate points though - real ones, not just dark Seal Points. They go pretty quickly even the seniors - it is so sad when someone dies and leaves their kitties (and the rest of their family I suppose too but at least the humans know what is going on , the cats sometimes find themselves thru no fault of their own in a pound or shelter and meezers fare so poorly in shelters, sigh!! Especially when they are so scared and lonley and upet, poor babies!! I am fostering three baby meezers - 2 blues, one Deal, no Lilac or Chocolate I am afraid.
On the topic of meezers (is it OK to ask this in this thread - I do not want to hijack) - how do you guys feel about all these so called new types, like tabby points and flame pt. Flame Pt I think I can understand but I pretty much draw the line at the others - and here I thought I was so open to change. A tabby point meezer looks like a tabby to me - and I do love tabbies - but if you want a tabby, get a tabby, why do we have to have all these new categories? Or am I just being too traditionalist and need to get over it already? lol Thx.
btw, I love Siamese, your meezers are very cute tho I find it hard to say what they will be. One looks like a blue pt but the pictures were so small on my small laptop so that did not help. And a chocolate point can have many kinds of meezers so unless you have a Seal Pt, you won't know for a bit. I think you would need to know the pedigree three gnerations back to be able to begin with the computations and genetic variations but what do I know, lol I just quote my mom, lol