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post #31 of 57
No because if that were true I would be 600lbs!
post #32 of 57
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Originally Posted by laureen227
for those of you looking for a pop replacement...you might try ordering water & a bowl of lemon slices at the restaurant. then you can make your own lemonade, using either sugar or sweetener [your choice] lemons & water. much healthier than soda!
I'm a waitress and my coworkers and I always get a good laugh from watching people make their own lemonade!! At least you admit to it! A lot of people try to be really covert about it, which is the funny part. They find sneaky ways to do it. I tend to order bottled water in restaurants if available. A lot of restaurants have juice, especially if they have a full bar. A yummy alternative I've found is cranberry and soda water on the rocks. Or pineapple juice and soda on the rocks. Soda water doesn't have anything in it, and juice is good for you, even if it has calories.
post #33 of 57
I too have read about diet soda still triggering a sugar response.
We try not to have soda around but so many people are used to drinking it I'll have to run and buy some if we have company.
For me I like carbonation so I have switched back to seltzer water. I've tried the "Izze" brand of drinks which are really good (no high fructose corn syrup) but they are expensive-about $1/bottle.
I think fast food and large portions have contributed to obesity more than soda.
post #34 of 57
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Originally Posted by GailC
I too have read about diet soda still triggering a sugar response.
We try not to have soda around but so many people are used to drinking it I'll have to run and buy some if we have company.
For me I like carbonation so I have switched back to seltzer water. I've tried the "Izze" brand of drinks which are really good (no high fructose corn syrup) but they are expensive-about $1/bottle.
I think fast food and large portions have contributed to obesity more than soda.
I love seltzer too, especially Raspberry. It has a raspberry scent and very slight flavor, with no sweetener.
post #35 of 57
I haven't read every post in the thread -- but yeah, the two things that kill you about soda are:

1) Sugar
2) Drinking calories

I watched my diet and calories over the course of a year and lost like 25 lbs. in a few months by simply drinking water and limited amounts of coffee and soy milk instead of soda, juice, 2% milk, etc... Added with exercise and more calorie watching, I was basically losing around 3lbs. per week. I focused on lean proteins, whole grains and vegetables and cut down on fat, sugar, etc...

I find that even if I eat REALLY well -- and follow a restricted calorie diet, I still can't break my plateaus if I'm drinking juice. Meals have to be limited to around 300-400 calories each and I have to drink large amounts of water...

You can drink a large glass of juice (2 cups worth) and drink almost as many calories as a few slices of turkey on two pieces of whole grain bread. But that glass of juice goes down pretty fast and isn't half as filling...

With soda, a can of coke has around 150 calories -- a few cans (or a large glass) a day -- or large fast-food fountain coke -- can have as many calories as a healthy sandwich, but with zero health benefit.
post #36 of 57
I wish I could cut out soda to lose weight...except I don't drink soda so I have to find something else... Ugh I bet its the cheese! I eat way to much dairy. The only thing I will drink is water. If its from the tap there has to be ice in it because the water is gross. If I drink bottled water is has to be filtered water from Hershey or Coca-Cola or the like becuase spring water from Atlanta is nasty!!!!
post #37 of 57
I believe that far more factors into the equation than soda.

In high school, I quit soda completely and began drinking water (unless I am eating, then I have a glass of juice. water+most foods make me nauseous). As I tend to eat meals a bit at a time, I've never had a weight issue (even as a child when my blood was practically orange soda due to the huge quantities of it I drank).


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Originally Posted by esrgirl
I've had people tell me that once you stop drinking it for a while you won't want to drink it anymore.
After years of not drinking it, not only does it taste weird, but the bubbles can be downright painful. I'll stick with icewater.
post #38 of 57
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Originally Posted by CommonOddity042
fter years of not drinking it, not only does it taste weird, but the bubbles can be downright painful. I'll stick with icewater.
I'm completely with you there! I've never liked the taste of carbonation. It hurts my mouth!! I have to admit though, a little bit can settle my stomach. Sometimes I'll have a couple sips of Chris' drink after a meal. I don't like the taste or anything but it does seem to help. Also I don't like paying for liquid when I can get liquid for free in the form of water! I hate paying for drinks!
post #39 of 57
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Originally Posted by SolarityBengals
I'm completely with you there! I've never liked the taste of carbonation. It hurts my mouth!! I have to admit though, a little bit can settle my stomach. Sometimes I'll have a couple sips of Chris' drink after a meal. I don't like the taste or anything but it does seem to help. Also I don't like paying for liquid when I can get liquid for free in the form of water! I hate paying for drinks!

It has the entirely opposite effect on me. I get the worst cases of upset stomach from drinking soda now (occasionally, i'll go out to eat and the only options will be soda or water. i cannot drink water with most foods, so i'll settle for soda and end up wishing i'd just ordered it to go or brought juice!)
post #40 of 57
I like carbonated water with just flavoring added... but then I also love pop! My mom used to call me Dr Pepper's Nurse. Hehee! But when I drank that much I weighed 125 lbs and I'm 5'8" so I wasn't very worried. I've cut back now that I put on some (okay, more than some) weight.. I think my main culprit is beer, though

Diet soda also increases your appetite, so when you drink it you eat more in calories than you would have dranken in the pop. Depending on what you eat, that could be slightly better or slightly worse. It also makes you thirsty.
post #41 of 57
Two non-related thoughts:
I think its just more or less that as we age we can't eat all the goodies we could as a kid because our metabolism slows down. Our needs of a diet changes so therefore not only do we grow up mentally, but we should also mature our diets too.

Is soda a natural product? No. If we want our bodies to be naturally healthy then we need to eat and drink what the earth provides for us...not something you can make through a chemistry set!
post #42 of 57
At the risk of sounding like a broken record, the following are imo, part of what is wrong...
1:folks not understanding that yo yo dieting (losing then gaining, losing again, then gaining) damages your metabolism and rather effectively converts per centage of muscle to an increased per centage of fat and decreased muscle mass, so that you become less and less effective at burning calories.

2:the diet industry in this country has done a huge dis-service..read your labels, the amount of products with high fructose corn syrup, the number of products using sugars in some form (dextrose, maltodextrin, corn syrup, honey) including and especially the "low fat" foods has truly increased beyond belief. My favorite example - seeing sugar in Morton's salt, and dextrose listed as the only other ingredient on a package of frozen french fries.

3:The use of artificial sweeteners in my mind provides benefit to only some, there are truly those who respond to them just as if they were real sugar, I know as I am one who does.

If you belonged to the support list I belong to, you'd read of folks who truly can gain weight unrelated to the number of calories ingested or level of activity - it is related to how often and what they eat.

Make dietary changes permanent...do it while you are younger, incorporate real foods, learn to cook from scratch as often as possible, choose chicken and pork that has not been injected with a solution of anything. Be sure your tuna in water is really in water, and not in vegetable broth that at last, they now list as containing soy (don't get me started on msg and alternative names used for msg).

Best quit before I tell you what I think of refined white flour
post #43 of 57
I have sworn off anything carbonated after my recent trips to the dentist. I am only 22, I HAD a 4 L a day pepsi habit....honestly, I would pund back 2 big bottles...and I've permanently lost 6 of my molars....with severe damage to the rest of my teeth. He guesses I will be wearing a full denture by the time I am 35.
Not only did it rot my teeth, but it was keeping weight on me. I lost almost 15lbs just by quitting my pop habit. Water from a bottle, from a tap, from anywhere.....it's now my drink of choice, and I dont care how it tastes lol
It really makes me wonder, if Pop caused that much damage to my oral health, what happened inside? I had a problem, that lead me to beleive I had IBS for years....and that problem subsided within a week after stopping pop.
post #44 of 57
I don't drink soda but maybe once a month. I'm still fat so it's not the soda...
Maybe it's the Big Macs....
post #45 of 57
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Originally Posted by ckatz
I don't drink soda diet or regular. Never have. Didn't grow with it, my parents never gave us soda or juice mostly we drank water or milk and guess what, I'm fat-now if we start talking about ice cream!!!!
My mother would never buy it for us as kids, either, so I never drink it at all. I never had weight as an issue until middle age. Plus, I never have trouble with decay in my teeth.
post #46 of 57
Sodas, Mineral water, anything carbonated will make my belly blow up with in 2 minutes.
I timed it
post #47 of 57
dont mention TAX lol, just got mine done YUCK.

anyway.............grab a can or bottle of soda and or juice, whatever you see you are drinking in exess...........look at how many grams of sugar is in it, now grab a test tube and pour the same amount of sugar that it says on the drink label.

now you can SEE how much sugar you are drinking. Try it, you will be grossed out.

My mom only got soda on a special ocasion, so even today I think buying soda is a big deal lol. I drink lots of tea and water. Im fat but thats cuz I sit allday ( I work from home, thru my computer) and I eat alot before I go to bed.
I recently stoped eating refined foods (flour,canned foods,packaged etc etc) I just eat everything natural and I drink 100oz of water a day. YES I've lost a good amount of weight, I do eat a burger here and there, but Imma start walking 30 minutes a day like I used to in my thinner days.

Think of your metablism as a fire. When you put big logs in a fire it turns off right?? But if you add small sticks at a time, you will get a constant fire. Same for your metablism. Eat alot, all day. Just small portions and keep it as healthy as possible. Avoid salt as much as you can, salt retains water, so the more you have the more ur gonna swell.........so if you had alot of salt, drink alot of water, as funny as it sounds if you hydrate your body well enough it will not retain all that water, and you will be less bloated.

Bottom line, you are what you eat!! I eat a whopper late at night, I will turn into one........and I have.lol!
post #48 of 57
ok, all of the people who got fat from soda - here's the answer! slimming soda
post #49 of 57
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Originally Posted by laureen227
ok, all of the people who got fat from soda - here's the answer! slimming soda

THERE IS A GOD! J/K lol...That's awesome...but what does it taste like I wonder?

Has anyone tried coke zero? I like it. I have that instead of regular pop now. I don't like diet!!!

Both my parents have type 2 diabetes and I'm freaked out by that now. Time to cut back on everything and what's that word again....oh yea....Exercise. LOL j/k In my house we use splenda if sugar is ever needed (hardly) and avoid having chips and pop in the house as a temptation because it is unlikely that we are just going to run to the store to get them. It helps quite a bit.

On the note of exercise, I have 6 1/2 months to train for the Louis Riel Memorial Day Triathalon...I know I can do it because I am a stubborn, hard working person, I just have to make the decision to do it!
post #50 of 57
I don't see how Diet Soda could be a culprit at all. Yes, I do think regular Soda could cause weight gain, but Diet Soda is calorie free. If Diet soda caused weight gain, then all products that have artificial sweeteners would also cause weight gain.
post #51 of 57
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Originally Posted by HopeHacker
I don't see how Diet Soda could be a culprit at all. Yes, I do think regular Soda could cause weight gain, but Diet Soda is calorie free. If Diet soda caused weight gain, then all products that have artificial sweeteners would also cause weight gain.
They do for many folks who have hyperinsulinemia. Here is an article - one page - note that among the foods that can contribute to this condition are artificial sweeteners.
http://www.setma.com/article.cfm?ID=235
post #52 of 57
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Originally Posted by HopeHacker
I don't see how Diet Soda could be a culprit at all. Yes, I do think regular Soda could cause weight gain, but Diet Soda is calorie free. If Diet soda caused weight gain, then all products that have artificial sweeteners would also cause weight gain.
I heard of studies done in trying to figure out why some medications cause weight gain. My understanding was that consuming artificial sweeteners caused a physical response similar to what happens after a spike in blood sugar, and craving following the spike. So people ended up consuming more calories daily when drinking diet soda as compared to water!
post #53 of 57
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Originally Posted by Beckiboo
I heard of studies done in trying to figure out why some medications cause weight gain. My understanding was that consuming artificial sweeteners caused a physical response similar to what happens after a spike in blood sugar, and craving following the spike. So people ended up consuming more calories daily when drinking diet soda as compared to water!
Precisely...this backs up what I said in my post. If it tastes sweet, the body reacts as if it is - even if an artificial sweetener has been used.
post #54 of 57
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Originally Posted by Pat & Alix
Precisely...this backs up what I said in my post. If it tastes sweet, the body reacts as if it is - even if an artificial sweetener has been used.
Yes, and the results have been replicated in more than one study from different sources. So why do I still drink so much diet soda?!?! I just have to switch to water and tea! LOL! (I've already given up Splenda because I realized it makes me feel like I have no energy.)
post #55 of 57
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Originally Posted by Beckiboo
Yes, and the results have been replicated in more than one study from different sources. So why do I still drink so much diet soda?!?! I just have to switch to water and tea! LOL! (I've already given up Splenda because I realized it makes me feel like I have no energy.)
I've learned to love bubbly waters like san pelligrino, or when on my budget, plain seltzer. I also have learned to love some plain teas - Lipton has an unsweetened bottled tea that is incredibly good and great for taking on road trips. Stash has a green and white fusion tea that is great and would be good iced

My dh had a serious cola habit when I met him (a case of Jolt cola a week). I managed to get him onto lemon-lime seltzer's etc.
post #56 of 57
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Originally Posted by Pat & Alix
I've learned to love bubbly waters like san pelligrino, or when on my budget, plain seltzer. I also have learned to love some plain teas - Lipton has an unsweetened bottled tea that is incredibly good and great for taking on road trips. Stash has a green and white fusion tea that is great and would be good iced

My dh had a serious cola habit when I met him (a case of Jolt cola a week). I managed to get him onto lemon-lime seltzer's etc.
I love seltzers - plain, raspberry, or whatever. Rant: The problem is a 12 pack of cans (easy to take to work) costs around $4.00, even the PLAIN ones. I can only find 2 brands - no generics. I can buy the generic brand of diet soda for $1.98. Isn't seltzer just soda with no flavorings in it? -end of rant-
post #57 of 57
Nah. I drink about 2 liters a day. I am very skinny.
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