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post #91 of 98
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This will be the last post in this thread, but I do have to make a clarification on something ... when I posted way back when about the genders, I was mistaken; there are two boys and two girls. A Seal Point boy and girl and a Blue Point boy and girl.

The kittens are now 12 weeks old and 3 of them will be leaving this upcoming Saturday to go to their new homes. Here are a few of the latest pictures of them:

The Blue Point Boy - notice the crossed eyes



The Blue Point Girl:



The Seal Point Boy:



and last, but certainly not by any means least, the Seal Point Girl:



It has been both an honor and a pleasure to share my heart and home with these babies. While I am deeply saddened by the loss of them from my home, it brings me joy at the same time to know they will be bringing happiness to other families. The Koreans have a word for this; "Han". There is no English translation, really - but it can be described as a state of mind where there is great sadness while still possessing great hope.

I have thoroughly enjoyed sharing this litter will all of you here at TCS. Thanks to everyone who enjoyed this thread - and my heartfelt thanks to Lexus and Tonka for producing yet another stunningly beautiful, completely healthy litter of babies.
post #92 of 98
Oh Gaye, they are just stunningly gorgeous! Their forever families sure are lucky! Thank you for sharing them with us.
post #93 of 98
Lexus & Tonka...your babies are absolutely beautiful.:
I really envy the families who will be welcoming your georgous babies into their lives.

Thank you Gaye for sharing sharing this experience with us.
Congratulations to all.
post #94 of 98
I have also loved reading your breeding journal, hearing the details in a spin only you could give. *big smile* The pictures of your 4 babies are beautiful, I can imagine how much you are going to miss them. I hope all the adoptive families will stay in very close contact and update you with pictures often.
post #95 of 98
I just read the whole thread, and I think it is a wonderful idea!

I really enjoyed this thread
post #96 of 98
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Tonka is a Blue Point carrying chocolate and lilac and Lexus is a Seal Point carrying lilac. From what I understand of the color genetics, they should be able to produce all four self-colors, however, they have produced only Blue Points and Seal Points to date. Maybe someone here can correct me if I am wrong about being able to produce chocolate and lilac.
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A blue-point can produce chocolate and lilac-points if it carries chocolate.  A seal-point can produce lilac if it carries chocolate and dilute.

 

So if you are correct about what they carry, their genotypes are Bbdd (Tonka) and BbDd (Lexus).

So, Tonka has a gene for Black (B), one for chocolate (b), and two genes for dilute.  Lexus also has one for Black and one for Chcoclate, but she only has one gene for dilute (d) and it's masked by the dominant normal version (D).

 

What colours could they produce?

 

Both are Bb, so offspring are BB (Seal), Bb (Seal carrying chocolate), bB (Seal carrying chocolate) and bb (chocolate).

 

One is dd and one is Dd, so here you have Dd and dd as the possibilities - half dominant and half dilute.  The version of D/d they inherit from Lexus is the key.

 

So overall you need 8 babies to represent all the possible outcomes:

 

BBDd - Seal carrying dilute

BbDd - Seal carrying chocolate and dilute (Seal from Tonka, Chocolate from Lexus)

bBDd - Seal carrying chocolate and dilute (Chocolate from Tonka, Seal from Lexus)

bbDd - Chocolate

 

BBdd - blue

bBdd - blue carrying chocolate

Bbdd - blue carrying chocolate

bbdd - lilac

 

So, 3/8 of the kittens should be seal, 3/8 blue, 1/8 chocolate and 1/8 lilac.  Big emphasis on *should* - my friend bred colour-point british shorthair and several matings that should have produced a lilac self never did! 

 

I don't know how many kittens these two have produced, nor have I seen their pedigrees.  Have either ever produced a chocolate or lilac kitten in another mating?  Have either ever mated with a chocolate or lilac?  That means you should get 1/2 seal/blue and 1/2 chocolate/lilac.

post #97 of 98
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Originally Posted by gayef View Post



Tonka is a Blue Point carrying chocolate and lilac and Lexus is a Seal Point carrying lilac. From what I understand of the color genetics, they should be able to produce all four self-colors, however, they have produced only Blue Points and Seal Points to date. Maybe someone here can correct me if I am wrong about being able to produce chocolate and lilac.




A blue-point can produce chocolate and lilac-points if it carries chocolate.  A seal-point can produce lilac if it carries chocolate and dilute.

So if you are correct about what they carry, their genotypes are Bbdd (Tonka) and BbDd (Lexus).
So, Tonka has a gene for Black (B), one for chocolate (b), and two genes for dilute.  Lexus also has one for Black and one for Chcoclate, but she only has one gene for dilute (d) and it's masked by the dominant normal version (D).

What colours could they produce?

Both are Bb, so offspring are BB (Seal), Bb (Seal carrying chocolate), bB (Seal carrying chocolate) and bb (chocolate).

One is dd and one is Dd, so here you have Dd and dd as the possibilities - half dominant and half dilute.  The version of D/d they inherit from Lexus is the key.

So overall you need 8 babies to represent all the possible outcomes:

BBDd - Seal carrying dilute
BbDd - Seal carrying chocolate and dilute (Seal from Tonka, Chocolate from Lexus)
bBDd - Seal carrying chocolate and dilute (Chocolate from Tonka, Seal from Lexus)
bbDd - Chocolate

BBdd - blue
bBdd - blue carrying chocolate
Bbdd - blue carrying chocolate
bbdd - lilac

So, 3/8 of the kittens should be seal, 3/8 blue, 1/8 chocolate and 1/8 lilac.  Big emphasis on *should* - my friend bred colour-point british shorthair and several matings that should have produced a lilac self never did! 

I don't know how many kittens these two have produced, nor have I seen their pedigrees.  Have either ever produced a chocolate or lilac kitten in another mating?  Have either ever mated with a chocolate or lilac?  That means you should get 1/2 seal/blue and 1/2 chocolate/lilac.

This thread is from 2006 and the original poster doesn't visit here that often anymore. It may take a while for you to get a reply. smile.gif
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